Qb Comparison against the same team
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greythan.... yea thats because every single one of his posts and positional arguments he lost..... you will have that, and frankly I dont care about popularity and never have. the funny thing about knowledge it does infuriate those who dont have it.
I can understand why you're so angry, then.
I can understand why you're so angry, then.
rubber and glue blah blah..... I see you pulled from your grade school bag of witty statements.....
or was that your "doctor" Phil moment ?
either way I assure you that your comment stung my poor sense of self and Your ashton Kutcher moment of "burn" is now indoctrined into my long term memory.....
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I can understand why you're so angry, then.
rubber and glue blah blah..... I see you pulled from your grade school bag of witty statements.....
or was that your "doctor" Phil moment ?
either way I assure you that your comment stung my poor sense of self and Your ashton Kutcher moment of "burn" is now indoctrined into my long term memory.....
rubber and glue blah blah..... I see you pulled from your grade school bag of witty statements.....
or was that your "doctor" Phil moment ?
either way I assure you that your comment stung my poor sense of self and Your ashton Kutcher moment of "burn" is now indoctrined into my long term memory.....
It was a joke, outie.
Are you still holding a grudge? Get over it. Shit happened last week.
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Quinn vs the Bengals
15 of 34 100 yards no passing tds 1 rushing td 44% completion percentage
Team first downs 11
thrid down efficiency 28% 4/14
48 yards rushing (+10 yards rushing by quinn)
total net yards 169
final score 16-7 Bengals
top 21:49
Anderson vs the Bengals
26 of 48 269 yards 1 passing td 1 rushing td 1 interception 54% completion percentage
team first downs 22
third down efficiency 31% 6/19
total net yards 395
144 yards rushing (+2 yards rushing by anderson)
final score 23-20 Bengals
top 38:55
We do need playmakers but it is clear to me that the QB position regardless of who is the qb is NOT the most detrimental. Anderson was horrible but so was the entire offensive team and playcalling. This game and the one against pittsburgh in two weeks are good comparison samples against the same exact team within the year the team can see who is better to lead the team next year offensively.
Quinn vs the Bengals
15 of 34 100 yards no passing tds 1 rushing td 44% completion percentage
Team first downs 11
thrid down efficiency 28% 4/14
48 yards rushing (+10 yards rushing by quinn)
total net yards 169
final score 16-7 Bengals
top 21:49
Anderson vs the Bengals
26 of 48 269 yards 1 passing td 1 rushing td 1 interception 54% completion percentage
team first downs 22
third down efficiency 31% 6/19
total net yards 395
144 yards rushing (+2 yards rushing by anderson)
final score 23-20 Bengals
top 38:55
We do need playmakers but it is clear to me that the QB position regardless of who is the qb is NOT the most detrimental. Anderson was horrible but so was the entire offensive team and playcalling. This game and the one against pittsburgh in two weeks are good comparison samples against the same exact team within the year the team can see who is better to lead the team next year offensively.
OK, lets make a little more fair, BQ has only played in 13 career games
336 attempts
174 completions
51.8% completion percentage
1836 yards
10 td's
7 ints
with a QB rating 68.65%
DA over his last 16 games, keep in mind this is with 3 more games
437 attemps
208 completions
47.5% completion percentage
2296 yards
11 td's (only one more than Quinn, three more games)
17 int's (ten more in three more games)
51.35% QB rating
Look at the numbers, get off of BQ's back, your boy DA if a friggen bum! Quinn is out performing him, and is getting stronger as he closes in on a full season, while DA is going downhill fast the more he plays! Keep BQ, he is not the problem, cut DumbAss ass soon as possible, he is an average backup at best, while BQ may yet develop into something worth keeping in the future.
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Exactly.
Look at the Vinny FlunkedtheTEstedverde interception ratings.
But Sev is just like Shep - nothing matters cept how bigtime the arm strength is.
Boring. Very dumb and boring.
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Exactly.
Look at the Vinny FlunkedtheTEstedverde interception ratings.
But Sev is just like Shep - nothing matters cept how bigtime the arm strength is.
Boring. Very dumb and boring.
Exactly.
Look at the Vinny FlunkedtheTEstedverde interception ratings.
But Sev is just like Shep - nothing matters cept how bigtime the arm strength is.
Boring. Very dumb and boring.
seriously?
Its not the "big time arm" that I care about, since the DRAFT three years ago I have been saying that Quinn was Hype and that Weis was more hype.... now that has led me down the path about argueing about 1st round draft picks to media terminology and finally to that Quinn does not have the AVERAGE NFL ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY..... It is not about being Favre like in throwing lasers its about that Quinn does not have the strength and accuracy to deliver the 15-30 yard NFL level accurate tight passes....
Greythan and company along with Shep and his little Bq boosting group was always argueing with me... guess what the statistics and his performances are only demonstrating that my unpopular positions were correct and our team is suffering from it. and now all of those Quinn boosters are silent.... the proof is in his stats and performances over 8= games this season which are only repeating exactly what he did last season and preseasons..... low scoring, checkdowns, low comp%, total team offense suffers due to narrowing of team offensive scheme ability limited by Quinns weaknesses, low average per pass, cant stretch the field..... etc... Harrison was good today but the Oline Was GREAT..... had they not been (+Cribbs being amazing) we would have gotten crushed by KC because 10-17 66yards is nothing but crap low yield passes....
I dont like DA and his over confidence in his arm strength and hot and cold accuracy, however he has shown MORE glimpses of NFL starter material more consistently than Quinn with Media and fan bias against him. Its not that I like DA more (I do because thats all I have to choose from) Its from Day one I was skeptical and thought the ND Media machine pushed a heisman campaign and ultimately a qb into the first round who did not belong there.... and lo and behold somehow Savage knew something that 21 other franchises did not and ignored all of the scouting on Quinn...... Now look two games in a row we win in SPITE of Quinn... I posted this as a unbiased comparison of 4 sample games against 2 shared opponents in the same season not to look for info to spin, the offensive and personal stats are what they are against the same strength opponents in the same season..... get over it.
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Exactly.
Look at the Vinny FlunkedtheTEstedverde interception ratings.
But Sev is just like Shep - nothing matters cept how bigtime the arm strength is.
Boring. Very dumb and boring.
Exactly.
Look at the Vinny FlunkedtheTEstedverde interception ratings.
But Sev is just like Shep - nothing matters cept how bigtime the arm strength is.
Boring. Very dumb and boring.
seriously?
Its not the "big time arm" that I care about, since the DRAFT three years ago I have been saying that Quinn was Hype and that Weis was more hype.... now that has led me down the path about argueing about 1st round draft picks to media terminology and finally to that Quinn does not have the AVERAGE NFL ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY..... It is not about being Favre like in throwing lasers its about that Quinn does not have the strength and accuracy to deliver the 15-30 yard NFL level accurate tight passes....
Greythan and company along with Shep and his little Bq boosting group was always argueing with me... guess what the statistics and his performances are only demonstrating that my unpopular positions were correct and our team is suffering from it. and now all of those Quinn boosters are silent.... the proof is in his stats and performances over 8= games this season which are only repeating exactly what he did last season and preseasons..... low scoring, checkdowns, low comp%, total team offense suffers due to narrowing of team offensive scheme ability limited by Quinns weaknesses, low average per pass, cant stretch the field..... etc... Harrison was good today but the Oline Was GREAT..... had they not been (+Cribbs being amazing) we would have gotten crushed by KC because 10-17 66yards is nothing but crap low yield passes....
I dont like DA and his over confidence in his arm strength and hot and cold accuracy, however he has shown MORE glimpses of NFL starter material more consistently than Quinn with Media and fan bias against him. Its not that I like DA more (I do because thats all I have to choose from) Its from Day one I was skeptical and thought the ND Media machine pushed a heisman campaign and ultimately a qb into the first round who did not belong there.... and lo and behold somehow Savage knew something that 21 other franchises did not and ignored all of the scouting on Quinn...... Now look two games in a row we win in SPITE of Quinn... I posted this as a unbiased comparison of 4 sample games against 2 shared opponents in the same season not to look for info to spin, the offensive and personal stats are what they are against the same strength opponents in the same season..... get over it.
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Get over it. DA is done. Jesus, enough is enough.
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YAAAWWWNNNN......
Somebody on here still thinks DA is our QB???
LMAO!!
Browns = An OC who is HORRIBLE + A team without any real WR playmakers (except for Cribbs returning kicks) = any QB will struggle. No matter who you put in there. PERIOD.
The Browns are "winning"...did I just say that, in SPITE of their inept OC and rookie WRs. Hopefully Holmgren will take over and get us a real NFL OC to help out Brady and the Boys.
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Get over it. DA is done. Jesus, enough is enough.
Get over it. DA is done. Jesus, enough is enough.
the funny thing is this for me was never about DA...... this started from my skepticism of Quinn FROM HIS college years....... I did not believe than and now definately do not believe, my positional support was based on a guy who won a franchise best home record and 10 games... the next year I felt that injuries and the skill players plus the oc crapped the bed.... this year we are in another oc and rookie skill players with some poor handling of developing timing and chemistry because of PR based bs, fans and their stupid premature jersey buying and support from some kid who never earned it in the NFL.....
I dont give a crap about DA I just never thought and now proved statistically that BQ was a real 1st round talent or a NFL level Qb........
get over the fact that BQ is garbage, enough is enough.... its amazing to me a 1st round draft pick can throw for 66 yards and 90 the game before and its NO problem..... had that been Da...... amazing.
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Get over it. DA is done. Jesus, enough is enough.
the funny thing is this for me was never about DA...... this started from my skepticism of Quinn FROM HIS college years....... I did not believe than and now definately do not believe, my positional support was based on a guy who won a franchise best home record and 10 games... the next year I felt that injuries and the skill players plus the oc crapped the bed.... this year we are in another oc and rookie skill players with some poor handling of developing timing and chemistry because of PR based bs, fans and their stupid premature jersey buying and support from some kid who never earned it in the NFL.....
I dont give a crap about DA I just never thought and now proved statistically that BQ was a real 1st round talent or a NFL level Qb........
get over the fact that BQ is garbage, enough is enough.... its amazing to me a 1st round draft pick can throw for 66 yards and 90 the game before and its NO problem..... had that been Da...... amazing.
the funny thing is this for me was never about DA...... this started from my skepticism of Quinn FROM HIS college years....... I did not believe than and now definately do not believe, my positional support was based on a guy who won a franchise best home record and 10 games... the next year I felt that injuries and the skill players plus the oc crapped the bed.... this year we are in another oc and rookie skill players with some poor handling of developing timing and chemistry because of PR based bs, fans and their stupid premature jersey buying and support from some kid who never earned it in the NFL.....
I dont give a crap about DA I just never thought and now proved statistically that BQ was a real 1st round talent or a NFL level Qb........
get over the fact that BQ is garbage, enough is enough.... its amazing to me a 1st round draft pick can throw for 66 yards and 90 the game before and its NO problem..... had that been Da...... amazing.
The only reason his stats were negated these past two weeks is because 1) We won and 2) Harrison rushed for 286 yards today, so BQ didn't need to throw.
He does need to step it up, though. It's getting to be ridiculous.
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Quinn vs the Bengals
15 of 34 100 yards no passing tds 1 rushing td 44% completion percentage
Team first downs 11
thrid down efficiency 28% 4/14
48 yards rushing (+10 yards rushing by quinn)
total net yards 169
final score 16-7 Bengals
top 21:49
Anderson vs the Bengals
26 of 48 269 yards 1 passing td 1 rushing td 1 interception 54% completion percentage
team first downs 22
third down efficiency 31% 6/19
total net yards 395
144 yards rushing (+2 yards rushing by anderson)
final score 23-20 Bengals
top 38:55
We do need playmakers but it is clear to me that the QB position regardless of who is the qb is NOT the most detrimental. Anderson was horrible but so was the entire offensive team and playcalling. This game and the one against pittsburgh in two weeks are good comparison samples against the same exact team within the year the team can see who is better to lead the team next year offensively.
OK, lets make a little more fair, BQ has only played in 13 career games
336 attempts
174 completions
51.8% completion percentage
1836 yards
10 td's
7 ints
with a QB rating 68.65%
DA over his last 16 games, keep in mind this is with 3 more games
437 attemps
208 completions
47.5% completion percentage
2296 yards
11 td's (only one more than Quinn, three more games)
17 int's (ten more in three more games)
51.35% QB rating
Look at the numbers, get off of BQ's back, your boy DA if a friggen bum! Quinn is out performing him, and is getting stronger as he closes in on a full season, while DA is going downhill fast the more he plays! Keep BQ, he is not the problem, cut DumbAss ass soon as possible, he is an average backup at best, while BQ may yet develop into something worth keeping in the future.
OK, lets make a little more fair, BQ has only played in 13 career games
336 attempts
174 completions
51.8% completion percentage
1836 yards
10 td's
7 ints
with a QB rating 68.65%
DA over his last 16 games, keep in mind this is with 3 more games
437 attemps
208 completions
47.5% completion percentage
2296 yards
11 td's (only one more than Quinn, three more games)
17 int's (ten more in three more games)
51.35% QB rating
Look at the numbers, get off of BQ's back, your boy DA if a friggen bum! Quinn is out performing him, and is getting stronger as he closes in on a full season, while DA is going downhill fast the more he plays! Keep BQ, he is not the problem, cut DumbAss ass soon as possible, he is an average backup at best, while BQ may yet develop into something worth keeping in the future.
Quinn's got some better overall stats.... But when in his career has Quinn thrown a single TD pass that may have contributed to a win?
Big fat zero. DA had 2 in a come from behind win in his first NFL appearance... racked up 20 more in wins the next season.
Quinn's money (OK, his stats don't indicate he's actually "money") in garbage time. It would be nice to see if he can actually show at least a hint of being able to lead a drive when a game is on the line.
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