What would you say to Holmgren?
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Just Win Motherf**ker
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maybe lay off the double whoppers with cheese?
maybe lay off the double whoppers with cheese?
your comment indeed tells us you have down syndrome. you musta been born with a dick in your brain, fu*ked in the head. you toothless inbred bi*ch
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
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support for the brown pants, eh? might as well worship satan.
support for the brown pants, eh? might as well worship satan.
What's wrong with the brown pants? With the home jerseys, we look like walking turds. I get that. But with the away jerseys, they're not that bad. I have a thing against white jerseys and white pants, it just bothers me.
And I'm finding the connection between brown pants and Satan a little weak. Enlighten me?
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
wow you dont even deny your down syndrome obtained through inbreeding. nice!
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
Oh snap..its on
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Continue to build on the Thomas and Mack picks and get a RT. Then we will have a line we can work with. We are close to having the unit to NFL good or better....just get it done this year. Once we do that, everything else on O is going to perform better and we will be able to maintain the unit with sound lower round picks for the next few years before having to invest a high pick again.
High round offensive picks don't work if you surround them with bums on the offensive line. Get that right and all of a sudden those 4th round backs look pretty good. Even crap QB's begin to look better.
Build some identity on defense, and no better way to do that then to build your backer corp. We have had a bunch of pansies playing linebacker for too long.
And for God's sake, play a attacking style D. Forget this contain and control D that seems so popular. Allow Ryan...I hope we keep him...to play D the way his Daddy did...defense with a offensive mind set. At first you might give up big plays, but as we get better players, we will be in a position to just smother teams.
That's what i want. I don't want to just win. I want to smother opponents.
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Wow, great thread LOL
Dear Mike,
This has been a terrible year for the Browns but the team seems to be executing better later in the season. The team is more disciplined than any browns team I can remember in recent history. Please give coach Mangini a chance to prove himself and keep an open mind to his staff's recommendations. I believe he can help the browns win a championship. You may personally favor a 4/3 defense but this defense has won multiple championships.
His staff knows the players well after a year to evaluate so use their opinions but be willing to have your own opinion also. I think they will know which weaknesses are a high priority.
Don't sacrifice the next five years to try and win next year. We want the holes filled but making the playoffs once is not what the fans here desire or deserve. Long term excellence (pats, steelers) is what most of us want with significant improvement shown next season.
Please try to fill as many holes as possible in free agency and draft bpa whenever possible.
Have fun, can't wait to see you and Mangini accepting the superbowl trophy
Brian
ps pay Josh
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Dear Mike,
Congratulations for being the only person Randy wanted to talk to and hire! When you were a Head Coach in Green Bay and Seattle I was quite fond of your work. That said, I'm a little unsettled about your last GM gig. I'm hoping you find it much easier this time around without the coaching demands on your time plus the learning that goes with previous mistakes. There's alot of people really excited about you coming and I'd like to be.
I was wearing Cleveland Brown colors before I could complete sentences back in the 60s. Therefore, I have to ask you an enormous favor. PLEASE look at the body of work Mangini has established HERE. I mean really look at it from beginning to end and note each and every injury, roster change and game day lineup along with our steady improvement. Then, I hope you look at Mangini's record in NY when he had experienced and healthy, talented starting QBs.
Mangini's first day of employment began with the realization that our 4-12 team (fresh off a draft volume of 5 and 0 first day picks) had only 4 draft picks to its name for 2009. Even more significant was the reality that Savage left an irreversable impression on Winslow that the only acceptable solution was to let him go and consider how we can change the bad deck we were dealt on the draft picks thing. Both the QBs the last regime left him had ZERO of 31 other teams interested in their services and if they became available today - that wouldn't change.
I lived in Western, NY when a new Head Coach best known for bringing a Wing T Offense to Kansas City was struggling with a talented group of football players earning the nickname "Bickering Bills." The day they lost to our beloved Browns on the Clay Matthews INT at the goal line - became the day I learned how VALUABLE the right Front Office Boss can be on the success of an organization. Bill Polian met with the team shortly thereafter and held up the Headlines that read "Bickering Bills." He informed them the Bills were about to embark upon some great things; but one thing needed to change really quick. He gave them the old "right now we've got too many chiefs and not enough indians" speech with some fiery Irish Shakespeare. Then became the defining moment of clarification: "Marv Levy is the BOSS here and anyone that cannot live by that rule can leave right now." The next season, became the first of 4 consecutive Superbowl appearances and history was written. When I think of the type of front office leader I'd like to see - it's one that KNOWS what he has at Head Coach and makes it known to all the players that's who is in charge. Everything else just falls into place.
The OTHER part of that is Buffalo found 1 draft day gem after another from many colleges under the radar like: Andre Reed (Kutztown State), Mark Kelso (William and Mary), Steve Tasker (Northwestern), Jeff Wright (Central Missouri State), Don Beebe (Chadron State), House Ballard (Alabama A&M), Pete Metzlaars (Wabash State), Will Wohlford (Vanderbilt), Ray Bentley (Central Michigan), Phil Hansen (North Dakota State). They even found it in themselves to draft a little RB from Oklahoma State that nobody gave any first round love to by the name of Thurman Thomas.
Last but not least, IMO a good Head Coach shouldn't be so limited that he has to ONLY find offensive guys that will fit a WCO or defensive guys suited for 1 type of alignment. A good head coach should be seasoned enough to where he can look at a group of players and fit the system to them (not vice-versa). Teams that seem to stay limited to 1 scheme or 1 design only hurt themselves when all the unplanned injuries unfold. The reason I want Mangini to stay is because he passed the litmus test of mental toughness. When we lost key guys like Shaun Rogers, D'Qwell Jackson, Eric Barton, Rex Hadnot, Steve Heiden, Braylon Edwards, Jamal Lewis, Dave Zastudil and others - MANY other teams would have quit like our team did in 2008. On the contrary, Mangini had them competing better than ever. That is exactly the type of strong foundation I think you should consider very seriously before bringing a West Coast offensive mind where this is no Brett Favre, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Brent Jones, John Taylor, or Tom Rathman. I've seen a 3-4 in the 80s when this team could tackle extremely well and I've seen versions of the 3-4 in the new millineum where we looked like we were playing flag football. Mangini just beat our #1 rival Pittsburgh BECAUSE we were tackling them for the first time in the last 13 tries.
I think Eric Mangini has a better resume than Marv Levy had before the Bill Polian speech that defined his journey to 4 Superbowls. Like any Head Coach - Mangini could use a strong Supervisor with a great football mind to guide him the right way and surround him with winners. You do that here and we might rename Lake Erie after you. I wish you the best of luck in Cleveland!
As you were,
- Tom F.
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I'm glad to see some of our more articulate posters taking this thread seriously. Anyone else want to add their remarks?
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In another thread, one of our members suggested we gather our comments and send them on to the Browns. I can't guarantee we'll send them on but we can't send them if we don't write them.
Given the chance, what would you say to Holmgren? Here's your chance. Post your remarks in this thread and we'll see if we can twist Stan's arm into sending them on. Please write these remarks as though someone other than just Browns Board aficionados will be reading them. If you're a skeptic, and don't believe anyone will read them or care, we don't need to know. Just don't write anything.
In another thread, one of our members suggested we gather our comments and send them on to the Browns. I can't guarantee we'll send them on but we can't send them if we don't write them.
Given the chance, what would you say to Holmgren? Here's your chance. Post your remarks in this thread and we'll see if we can twist Stan's arm into sending them on. Please write these remarks as though someone other than just Browns Board aficionados will be reading them. If you're a skeptic, and don't believe anyone will read them or care, we don't need to know. Just don't write anything.
Kathy you are so cool..........woof ur sumtim.............I would say get a real qB and build the team on Offense skill positions first..............WHICH AMOUNTS TO WINNING.........and yes hire Joe from SF and his wrecker company to remove illegal cars from parking lots and yes indeed do a big time fax in to support this.........
that should work it did before
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