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Why isnt Edwards benched ?

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  • JewDago J
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    J JewDago wrote on last edited by JewDago
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    with the season lost at this point, it's more important to restore BE's confidence than it is to send him a message. he knows he's playing like shit and he likely hates himself for it. it's a vicious circle type situation. he's got low confidence so he doesn't play well and his confidence gets lower.

    it's exactly the kind of thing that coaches should fix, like subpar playcalling, defensive schemes and lackluster QB play.

    and steve sanders can't replace BE and be any sort of productive. it doesn't work like that. the only thing to do is to work with him and get him out of his slump.

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    • DTBH DTBHD
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      DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by
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      I really don't get it with Bray. I understand what happens in a situation where he's dropping maybe 1 a game, or goes through maybe one horrid game of 3 or 4 drops.

      But 3 or 4 drops every game? I literally don't understand how this is possible. After you go through your initial spurt of drops, your focus and determination should so insanely keyed on catchnig the damn football that you catch everything in sight. Not worrying about YAC, not worrying about breaking tackles, not worrying about bracing his fall, or even worrying about getting to the sticks. Just block everything else out, look the ball in, and catch the fucking thing.

      I genuinely do not understand how it is possibly for a prolonged streak of drops like this. His sense of awareness and focus should be heightened, not lowered.

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        I really don't get it with Bray. I understand what happens in a situation where he's dropping maybe 1 a game, or goes through maybe one horrid game of 3 or 4 drops.

        But 3 or 4 drops every game? I literally don't understand how this is possible. After you go through your initial spurt of drops, your focus and determination should so insanely keyed on catchnig the damn football that you catch everything in sight. Not worrying about YAC, not worrying about breaking tackles, not worrying about bracing his fall, or even worrying about getting to the sticks. Just block everything else out, look the ball in, and catch the fucking thing.

        I genuinely do not understand how it is possibly for a prolonged streak of drops like this. His sense of awareness and focus should be heightened, not lowered.

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        N NW Ohio Brownie wrote on last edited by
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        @dtbh said:

        I really don't get it with Bray. I understand what happens in a situation where he's dropping maybe 1 a game, or goes through maybe one horrid game of 3 or 4 drops.

        But 3 or 4 drops every game? I literally don't understand how this is possible. After you go through your initial spurt of drops, your focus and determination should so insanely keyed on catchnig the damn football that you catch everything in sight. Not worrying about YAC, not worrying about breaking tackles, not worrying about bracing his fall, or even worrying about getting to the sticks. Just block everything else out, look the ball in, and catch the fucking thing.

        I genuinely do not understand how it is possibly for a prolonged streak of drops like this. His sense of awareness and focus should be heightened, not lowered.

        Let's just hope we're not looking at a Rick Ankiel/Steve Sax situation here. Completely mental: Ankiel couldn't throw a strike and Sax couldn't throw it to first while playing second base.

        Look at BE's face during the games. He just looks frightened to make a mistake.

        ...searching for Nev Chandler..."5,4,3,2,1, Touchdown Browns!!
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        • Timugen T
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          T Timugen wrote on last edited by
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          Here's my take on the "nobody on the bench" that can come in....

          If the players on the bench can't come in and at least be serviceable, then they have no business being on the roster.

          We don't need someone to come in and light the world on fire. We need someone to come in and run proper routes, play like they actually give a shit, not get called offsides ELEVENTY BILLION times as a WR (WTF!?!?!?!?,) and manage to not lead the league in drops.

          In case you haven't been paying attention boys and girls, that's all that it would take for the guy to be an upgrade over Edwards this year.

          And once again, if we have WRs on the bench who can't do that (or at least most of it,) then they don't belong on the roster. Period.

          "I like to quote myself." -Me
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          • JewDago J
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            J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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            it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open. we saw steptoe have problems getting open when stallworth was injured. why would other guys be any better?

            i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

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              D D'Qwimbley wrote on last edited by
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              If you think Braylon isn't trying hard or doesn't care, your insane. Read the article on the browns website.

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                Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                and the Wolverines tried hard to win on saturday also!!! 😛
                Head or Gut?
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                • D D'Qwimbley

                  If you think Braylon isn't trying hard or doesn't care, your insane. Read the article on the browns website.

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                  DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by DTBH
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                  @d-qwimbley said:

                  If you think Braylon isn't trying hard or doesn't care, your insane. Read the article on the browns website.

                  I'm with you, man. Despite his Michigan status, I really LOVE Braylon's attitude. Always have, regardless of his drops. He wants to win, he's a team guy, and I know he's dying inside not pleasing these fans. He's articulate, intelligent, and a great guy for the community.

                  I just don't get why he can't get his mind right. As much as I hate when he plays like shit, my heart goes out to the guy when I see the pain of dissapointment in his face. I always had the same feeling for DA.

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                  • J JewDago

                    it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open. we saw steptoe have problems getting open when stallworth was injured. why would other guys be any better?

                    i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

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                    T Timugen wrote on last edited by
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                    @jewdago said:

                    i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

                    ????????????

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                      J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                      they're not the greatest coaches in the world, but that doesn't mean they wear helmets and mittens all the time.

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                        D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                        Tim', GREAT posts. I don't buy the "know one else to play" theory either.

                        What I see is a total lack of accountability for BE, K2 and DA. It appears to me that RAC clearly prefers the guys who have been there before for him and they obviously know that. They play without any desire or professionalism because they CAN. They're untouchable and they know it. (Well, DA was, until someone obviously made the decision for RAC.)

                        BE is the poster boy for this lack of accountability. I haven't played at the NFL level but Rich Gannon has and when Gannon -- a former Pro Bowl QB -- kept calling BE out for his route running and drops time and again, how can it not be obvious to his ACTUAL coaches and teammates how badly he's playing?

                        You don't think EVERYONE on that team knows that BE, K2 and DA get a free pass? And how do you think that sits with them?

                        How do you think JLew feels about it? Or Josh Cribbs? Or Shaun Rogers? Y'know, guys who go ALL OUT ON EVERY PLAY?

                        Sitting BE or at least scheming AWAY from him would be the right thing to do. Y'know, the thing that RAC can't do.

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                        • J JewDago

                          it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open. we saw steptoe have problems getting open when stallworth was injured. why would other guys be any better?

                          i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

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                          T Timugen wrote on last edited by Timugen
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                          @jewdago said:

                          it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open.

                          Well, one of the biggest keys to getting open is running crisp routes. That's why there are guys who are very good receivers who don't have overpowering size or blinding speed.

                          The perfect example of poor route running resulting in not being open was BE's half-assed effort on that slant that got picked. He flat out gave up on that route....bad route....WR not open....even worse, gives inside position on a timing route to the DB to serve up a pick.

                          Speed and size are great, but they are rarely going to get you open without good route-running.

                          "I like to quote myself." -Me
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                            @jewdago said:

                            it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open.

                            Well, one of the biggest keys to getting open is running crisp routes. That's why there are guys who are very good receivers who don't have overpowering size or blinding speed.

                            The perfect example of poor route running resulting in not being open was BE's half-assed effort on that slant that got picked. He flat out gave up on that route....bad route....WR not open....even worse, gives inside position on a timing route to the DB to serve up a pick.

                            Speed and size are great, but they are rarely going to get you open without good route-running.

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                            DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by
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                            @timugen said:

                            Well, one of the biggest keys to getting open is running crisp routes. That's why there are guys who are very good receivers who don't have overpowering size or blinding speed.

                            The perfect example of poor route running resulting in not being open was BE's half-assed effort on that slant that got picked. He flat out gave up on that route....bad route....WR not open....even worse, gives inside position on a timing route to the DB to serve up a pick.

                            Speed and size are great, but they are rarely going to get you open without good route-running.

                            Not to clear Braylon of fault on that play, but they ran that slant how many times today? 5? 6? 7? Of course the DB will jump the route after a while. There's not a ton that Bray can do about that beside hope BQ makes the read and doesn't throw it or the play doesn't get called.

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                            • D D'Qwimbley

                              If you think Braylon isn't trying hard or doesn't care, your insane. Read the article on the browns website.

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                              T Timugen wrote on last edited by
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                              @d-qwimbley said:

                              If you think Braylon isn't trying hard or doesn't care, your insane. Read the article on the browns website.

                              Yeah, that's the first place I go when I want to see what the current flavor of propaganda will be after a bad game.

                              I'm pretty sure Goebbels is the editor for their "articles" that they put out.

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                                it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open. we saw steptoe have problems getting open when stallworth was injured. why would other guys be any better?

                                i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

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                                L lemosley01 wrote on last edited by
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                                @jewdago said:

                                it's not just "can they run routes and catch," though. WRs have to be able to get open. we saw steptoe have problems getting open when stallworth was injured. why would other guys be any better?

                                i understand that we won't be sure until we try, but don't you think these guys would be on the field if they'd shown something in practice? our coaches can't be that inept.

                                We just watched fatass bench our 2 game-old QB for playing less worse than the guy he replaced him with.

                                Yes, they can be that inept.

                                And, yes, I do feel for Braylon to some extent, but at some point you have to cut bait with the guy. This isn't a recent trend (dropping a bunch of passes), it's just worse now than ever.

                                Get the guy to a psychiatrist. We know he CAN catch the ball. It IS mental.

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                                  J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                                  does any of you actually think sanders would be better than braylon?

                                  put the anger aside for a second. measure their skills and abilities. could steve sanders really contribute more to this team then edwards?

                                  really, it doesn't matter. we'd just have a stupid argument because i'm the idiot who's not ready to give up on BE. we saw what he's capable of doing last year. there's no reason he shouldn't be able to do that again. nothing's changed, he's just having a shitty year.

                                  and if we want to get anything for him, he has to keep playing and show some sign of improvement. the season's lost, anyway.

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                                    does any of you actually think sanders would be better than braylon?

                                    put the anger aside for a second. measure their skills and abilities. could steve sanders really contribute more to this team then edwards?

                                    really, it doesn't matter. we'd just have a stupid argument because i'm the idiot who's not ready to give up on BE. we saw what he's capable of doing last year. there's no reason he shouldn't be able to do that again. nothing's changed, he's just having a shitty year.

                                    and if we want to get anything for him, he has to keep playing and show some sign of improvement. the season's lost, anyway.

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                                    T Timugen wrote on last edited by Timugen
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                                    @jewdago said:

                                    does any of you actually think sanders would be better than braylon?

                                    Braylon last year? Probably not.

                                    Braylon this year?

                                    Well, if Sanders could simply manage to not lead the league in drops and not get called for more false start penalties as a WR than some of our linemen have been called for.....that would be a start.

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                                      chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                      in case you haven't been paying attention jewdago, braylon hasn't contributed anything but negative play. even sanders can do that, difference being i bet sanders has better hands and isn't such a pussy.

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                                        J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                                        alright, i'll listen.

                                        but since there's the last year vs. this year comparison, what changed?

                                        BE was a beast last year and a bitch this one. what happened to him during the off-season or at some point during this season to turn him from from great to goat?

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                                          alright, i'll listen.

                                          but since there's the last year vs. this year comparison, what changed?

                                          BE was a beast last year and a bitch this one. what happened to him during the off-season or at some point during this season to turn him from from great to goat?

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                                          T Timugen wrote on last edited by Timugen
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                                          @jewdago said:

                                          alright, i'll listen.

                                          but since there's the last year vs. this year comparison, what changed?

                                          BE was a beast last year and a bitch this one. what happened to him during the off-season or at some point during this season to turn him from from great to goat?

                                          Perhaps taking too much for granted after being named a Pro-Bowler.

                                          Who knows?

                                          But more importantly, what does it matter? I know that as a coach you would want to know the cause so you could fix it, but this staff has shown that they're grossly incompetent and can't "fix" anything.

                                          His play this year has spoken for itself, and that's what matters. And it's not like he just all of a sudden just had one bad game this week.

                                          It's time to give someone else a chance, if for no other reason than to give BE a little wake-up call. And who knows....we may find out in the process that we have had a viable WR riding pine while we've backed up the Brinks truck to Stallsworthless' front door.

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