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    The Michigan/Steeler/Yankee/Cowboy fans with no ties, living in Ohio, are mostly frontrunning morons. They will disappear when these teams continue to suck.

    Remember all the "Bulls fans" there used to be during the Jordon era? Where are they now?

    One of them plays small forward for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

  • All I know is that I have lived in the Youngstown area all my life and from the 60s up

    until the 80s you had to search long and hard to find a Steeler fan in this area.

    Amazing how winning brings in fair-weathered fans.

    I just talked to a guy who described himself as a "die-hard" Steeler fan from the

    Youngstown area. I asked him how long he had been a Steeler fan since he is my

    age (50s). He said " Oh a long time! The last 20 years or so." FRONTRUNNER--

    Where were you for the first 35 years of your life when the Steelers STUNK?????

  • All I know is that I have lived in the Youngstown area all my life and from the 60s up

    until the 80s you had to search long and hard to find a Steeler fan in this area.

    Amazing how winning brings in fair-weathered fans.

    I just talked to a guy who described himself as a "die-hard" Steeler fan from the

    Youngstown area. I asked him how long he had been a Steeler fan since he is my

    age (50s). He said " Oh a long time! The last 20 years or so." FRONTRUNNER--

    Where were you for the first 35 years of your life when the Steelers STUNK?????

    @darubes said:

    All I know is that I have lived in the Youngstown area all my life and from the 60s up

    until the 80s you had to search long and hard to find a Steeler fan in this area.

    Amazing how winning brings in fair-weathered fans.

    I just talked to a guy who described himself as a "die-hard" Steeler fan from the

    Youngstown area. I asked him how long he had been a Steeler fan since he is my

    age (50s). He said " Oh a long time! The last 20 years or so." FRONTRUNNER--

    Where were you for the first 35 years of your life when the Steelers STUNK?????

    Well, the dude may indeed have been a FRAK, but, if he was say 55, then he would have only been 20 when the Steelers began their string of 4 titles in the 70s.

    Though, it is my sincere belief that a person' allegiances to a team are set at somewhere between 8-12 years old. Mine certainly were. That is why I have always been first and formost an Indians and Browns fan (and also OSU) because between 1960 and 1962 or '63 that is when I began following them. The Cavs didn't come around until I was in college and off with other things in mind, so my connection with them is not as great as with the teams of boyhood.

    Is this the same as most of your experiences?

  • (I'm from Warren, hence the nickname, WarrenDawg.) I was born in Warren in 1978. As a kid growing up there, I recall most people in the area being Browns fans. I think it's safe to say Warrenites my age and older are still Browns fans. It's mostly the younger kids, frontrunners, morons, and influx of transients into the area who are the Steeler fans. Most of the Browns diehards from Warren, like myself, have left the area because of lack of skilled position jobs. There always were a few Steeler fans around in the 80's, and the ones that I knew did have family ties from PA, which I understand. Warren isn't too far from the PA line... Youngstown TV stations have always aired Browns games over Steeler games, but the area is a battleground [that divides families].

    I graduated from YSU. I attended while Tressel was there, and I was glad to see him get the job as HC for the Buckeyes. I went to the YSU football games, had two cousins that were captains under Tressel, still love the Penguins... But during that time, and still now, I root for the Buckeyes. OSU doesn't represent "all the college football in Ohio", but Ohioans should want them to win "for the greater cause".

    I'm living in the Cincinnati area now, and I attend UC, and I'm glad that the Bearcats had a great season. I'm a Buckeye, Penguin, & Bearcat fan for all listed reasons (which makes sense).

    Of course, I will never like the Bengals, but I do have to tolerate all the Bengal sh*t at bars and all (living in enemy territory).

    The Michigan/Steeler/Yankee/Cowboy fans with no ties, living in Ohio, are mostly frontrunning morons. They will disappear when these teams continue to suck.

    Remember all the "Bulls fans" there used to be during the Jordon era? Where are they now?

    @warrendawg said:

    (I'm from Warren, hence the nickname, WarrenDawg.) I was born in Warren in 1978. As a kid growing up there, I recall most people in the area being Browns fans. I think it's safe to say Warrenites my age and older are still Browns fans. It's mostly the younger kids, frontrunners, morons, and influx of transients into the area who are the Steeler fans. Most of the Browns diehards from Warren, like myself, have left the area because of lack of skilled position jobs. There always were a few Steeler fans around in the 80's, and the ones that I knew did have family ties from PA, which I understand. Warren isn't too far from the PA line... Youngstown TV stations have always aired Browns games over Steeler games, but the area is a battleground [that divides families].

    I graduated from YSU. I attended while Tressel was there, and I was glad to see him get the job as HC for the Buckeyes. I went to the YSU football games, had two cousins that were captains under Tressel, still love the Penguins... But during that time, and still now, I root for the Buckeyes. OSU doesn't represent "all the college football in Ohio", but Ohioans should want them to win "for the greater cause".

    I'm living in the Cincinnati area now, and I attend UC, and I'm glad that the Bearcats had a great season. I'm a Buckeye, Penguin, & Bearcat fan for all listed reasons (which makes sense).

    Of course, I will never like the Bengals, but I do have to tolerate all the Bengal sh*t at bars and all (living in enemy territory).

    The Michigan/Steeler/Yankee/Cowboy fans with no ties, living in Ohio, are mostly frontrunning morons. They will disappear when these teams continue to suck.

    Remember all the "Bulls fans" there used to be during the Jordon era? Where are they now?

    Very accurate assessment DAwg... And there were a LOT of years in the Late 70`s and 80`s that WKBN WYTV and WFMJ played Steeler Games over Browns games. They were Feeding off of all those Super Bowls and the fact you Stated People with those ties to W. Pa. ...So You went to Harding ?? Funny I Graduated from Warren Western Reserve in 1979... You young Buck. Still go see the Raiders play !!

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    I know what you mean. I was born and raised in NE Ohio so I cant imagine rooting for any other team EVER. There's 3 people that married into my family and every single one of them are from Pissburgh so as you can imagine family gatherings can get interesting around this time of year. Im really looking forward to Christmas time when I get to rub it in there face how the Browns killed pissburghs playoff hopes. It's going to be great.

    I have a brother in law who is a Steeler fan....but at least he grew up in Pittsburgh area. I have another who is a Bengal fan, but he grew up in Cincy, though he says that now that he had moved to South Carolina several years ago, he no longer follows them or pays attention, even now when they are doing well. (but he has NOT become a Panther fan).

    @the-gipper said:

    I have a brother in law who is a Steeler fan....but at least he grew up in Pittsburgh area. I have another who is a Bengal fan, but he grew up in Cincy, though he says that now that he had moved to South Carolina several years ago, he no longer follows them or pays attention, even now when they are doing well. (but he has NOT become a Panther fan).

    I live in South Carolina and have yet to run into a Panther fan. It's really strange.

  • FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    a majority of Steeler fans are loyal to Pittsburgh and love the Buckeyes, Tribe and Cavs ? I do follow the Cavs ... But am a Fan of the Pirates and Penguins and the Pitt Panthers,,, No Hoops in the Burgh... But then i was Born In Pittsburgh . I pull for OSU as well. Despise PeNN St.

    Well, I think you really have to distinguish certain fans. Freakazoid here is clearly a true fan of the Pittsburgh area, good, bad, or indifferent. I mean, he may crow if the Penquins and Steelers do well, but he acknowledges that he stays true to the Pirates who we know have been crap for a long time. Good for him. Some of you may not remember, but we went through 40 years of it with the Tribe (I DO remember).

    Others of these so called Steeler fans will really blow with the wind. They are around here, yes, idiots. They will glom on to the Steelers if they are good, or the Celtics, or the Bulls.

    How often did you see Chicago Bulls gear when Jordan was playing for them? All the time. How often do you see it now? Never.

    @the-gipper said:

    How often did you see Chicago Bulls gear when Jordan was playing for them? All the time. How often do you see it now? Never.

    True. Used to see kids wearing Bulls jerseys all the time. I haven't seen one in years.

    Just an aside: We have a life-size cardboard cutout of Michael Jordan where I work. Up until this year,it seemed as though nearly every kid coming through was able to identify him by name (probably because of "Space Jam"). This year kids have started to point and say, "That's Michael Jackson!"

  • I've concluded from my interactions with friends, co-workers, and people from all walks of life that the typical steelers fan from Ohio is usually a Michigan fan also. Most of these Steeler/Michigan fans have never even been to Pittsburgh or Ann Arbor, let alone to a game. The root of their allegiance seems to be hatred for all things Ohio. Usually these are self hating and angry people. We have two professional football teams in the state and consistently one of the top programs in the country for college football. I've questioned several of these Ohio native Pittsburg/Michigan fans about this and they usually have some dumb response such as "I just hate the Browns or Ohio State sucks." Anyone else who has observed this trend feel free to chime in.

    @base_d_fence said:

    I've concluded from my interactions with friends, co-workers, and people from all walks of life that the typical steelers fan from Ohio is usually a Michigan fan also. Most of these Steeler/Michigan fans have never even been to Pittsburgh or Ann Arbor, let alone to a game. The root of their allegiance seems to be hatred for all things Ohio. Usually these are self hating and angry people. We have two professional football teams in the state and consistently one of the top programs in the country for college football. I've questioned several of these Ohio native Pittsburg/Michigan fans about this and they usually have some dumb response such as "I just hate the Browns or Ohio State sucks." Anyone else who has observed this trend feel free to chime in.

    Ran across this post while surfing for ohio steeler fans and could not resist responding. I grew up in a small town on the ohio-wv border. My hometown is only 30 minutes from Pittsburgh. I grew up primarily watching the Pirates and Steelers all the time. If you wanted to see a pro game it was much easier to zip right up to Three Rivers. The first pro baseball and football game I saw were both at Three Rivers so it was hard not to be a Steeler fan. Trust me though I hate Michigan with a passion, and I am a Buckeye having attended OSU myself. So there it is, I am a Steeler and a Buckeye and proud of it. Believe me there are more Steeler/Buckeye fans than you may realize and we are not all bandwagon jumpers. I have been a Steeler since attending my first game in 1971. Oh by the way, congrats on snapping the streak against us, your defense played lights-out.

    How about this for a Jan.2 headline.................BUCKS ROASTS DUCKS!!!

  • I'd bet the psychology is interesting.

    Sure there are some who are, or whose family is from PA (or went to MI) but in most cases I assume theres some passive agressive behavior going on.

    Wearing the colors in Ohio is certainly an anti social act.

    WSS

  • I'd bet the psychology is interesting.

    Sure there are some who are, or whose family is from PA (or went to MI) but in most cases I assume theres some passive agressive behavior going on.

    Wearing the colors in Ohio is certainly an anti social act.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I'd bet the psychology is interesting.

    Sure there are some who are, or whose family is from PA (or went to MI) but in most cases I assume theres some passive agressive behavior going on.

    Wearing the colors in Ohio is certainly an anti social act.

    WSS

    Yeah, I think there is some passive aggressive behavior, but it is more a conformity thing to me. The direct success of Pitt and suckage of the Browns creates that. As much as we have some of the burnout high school types that really don't know sports but relate to Pitt (cuz of their colors, winning and being the mortal enemies of the yuppy fellow high schoolers they hate) there are also plenty of the conformists types that once the bandwagon gets a rolling, they attach themselves for an identity.

    It props up their self esteem, quite simply, because they are weak people to begin with.

  • I'd bet the psychology is interesting.

    Sure there are some who are, or whose family is from PA (or went to MI) but in most cases I assume theres some passive agressive behavior going on.

    Wearing the colors in Ohio is certainly an anti social act.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I'd bet the psychology is interesting.

    Sure there are some who are, or whose family is from PA (or went to MI) but in most cases I assume theres some passive agressive behavior going on.

    Wearing the colors in Ohio is certainly an anti social act.

    WSS

    My home town was dominated by a steel mill. Though my official high school colors were lavender and purple, the athletic teams wore the "fight" colors of black and gold. The players were known as the Lorain Steelmen or, alternately, the Steelers. Curiously, we never made any connection whatsoever to the Pittsburgh team. We were definitely Browns fans all the way.

  • @base_d_fence said:

    I've concluded from my interactions with friends, co-workers, and people from all walks of life that the typical steelers fan from Ohio is usually a Michigan fan also. Most of these Steeler/Michigan fans have never even been to Pittsburgh or Ann Arbor, let alone to a game. The root of their allegiance seems to be hatred for all things Ohio. Usually these are self hating and angry people. We have two professional football teams in the state and consistently one of the top programs in the country for college football. I've questioned several of these Ohio native Pittsburg/Michigan fans about this and they usually have some dumb response such as "I just hate the Browns or Ohio State sucks." Anyone else who has observed this trend feel free to chime in.

    Ran across this post while surfing for ohio steeler fans and could not resist responding. I grew up in a small town on the ohio-wv border. My hometown is only 30 minutes from Pittsburgh. I grew up primarily watching the Pirates and Steelers all the time. If you wanted to see a pro game it was much easier to zip right up to Three Rivers. The first pro baseball and football game I saw were both at Three Rivers so it was hard not to be a Steeler fan. Trust me though I hate Michigan with a passion, and I am a Buckeye having attended OSU myself. So there it is, I am a Steeler and a Buckeye and proud of it. Believe me there are more Steeler/Buckeye fans than you may realize and we are not all bandwagon jumpers. I have been a Steeler since attending my first game in 1971. Oh by the way, congrats on snapping the streak against us, your defense played lights-out.

    How about this for a Jan.2 headline.................BUCKS ROASTS DUCKS!!!

    @c-thunder53 said:

    Ran across this post while surfing for ohio steeler fans and could not resist responding. I grew up in a small town on the ohio-wv border. My hometown is only 30 minutes from Pittsburgh. I grew up primarily watching the Pirates and Steelers all the time. If you wanted to see a pro game it was much easier to zip right up to Three Rivers. The first pro baseball and football game I saw were both at Three Rivers so it was hard not to be a Steeler fan. Trust me though I hate Michigan with a passion, and I am a Buckeye having attended OSU myself. So there it is, I am a Steeler and a Buckeye and proud of it. Believe me there are more Steeler/Buckeye fans than you may realize and we are not all bandwagon jumpers. I have been a Steeler since attending my first game in 1971. Oh by the way, congrats on snapping the streak against us, your defense played lights-out.

    How about this for a Jan.2 headline.................BUCKS ROASTS DUCKS!!!

    Your type is understandable and I think most people know that is the case with towns on the border, although the fact you guys have won certainly doesn't hurt. Fact is, there used to be many Browns fans in those areas regardless of proximity, but the Pitt winning has converted many more than originally.

    Some of you get a pass if you actually live in Ohio to be Buckeyes fans, or in your case went to school there. However, Pitt is a big time school and the same distance as rooting for the pro teams, so again, most of those types in your area go with the winner as their fan identity.

    This thread is more about people in NE Ohio mainly, from Ashtabula to Sandusky to Canton that are flat out flaming bandwagonners. They root for the Steelers and the Buckeyes like little queers cuz they have no balls--or in the women's case, some of them do.

    I remember about 8 years ago going to my favorite pub to watch a Buckeye-Wisconsin game. I was all pumped up for it and especially to watch it with about 6 of my Cleveland/OSU buddies etc. Lo and behold, there was Chuck and Janine, two of the biggest Steeler toolboxes ever sitting at our table with us like they belonged. It completely ruined the game for me, as they were obnoxious asshole Pitt fans that didn't know shit yet always rubbed the Browns in our faces, and that was back toward expansion still. They were both from Akron and had no affiliation with Puke, and to me it was a bunch of bullshit them sitting with us representing themselves as similar type fans. We ended up blowing a 17 point lead and losing that game, but I can remember being somewhat content with the fact those asshole Steeler fans didn't get their way for once.

    This is just one example of the choadiness from bandwagon fans in the area riding the Buckeyes while laughing in the faces of their local Pro team. And you're right, they are everywhere, I think we have been saying that.

    My friends like Flugs and others think they know and think they hate Steeler fan, but until you live here and see it every freaking day you have no idea. This is friggen Cleveland Browns territory, one of the most storied franchises ever in one of the best football areas there is, but since we aren't any good we have to watch a bunch of pansies run around waving their yellow fags. And on top of that call the Buckeyes your own? Please.....

  • FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    LOL... He wasnt about to Raise up BROWNS fans... And my Girls Born Bred in OHIO... STEELER FANS baby. Thats why If you gys ask "What part of Pa. are you from ? " You should follow (If answers is not from Ohio) "Then what part of Pa. is your mom or dad from ?" If these questions fail ...I understand you stance. Though I stand by that ALL are welcome on the Black and Gold. My dad had a Cousin from Beaver Falls Pa. who LOVED the Browns.... Not sure why. Think it was Jim Brown as he always talked about him. By the way I seen some Mexican Flags when i was in Phoenix...

    I think that is what I said above. If someone's folks were from that area it is totally understandable, but their wife's third cousin, six times removed? Bogus, yet I hear that sort of silliness.

    I have cousins in Minnesota, should I be a Viking fan? (Though, I will admit, that if I have an English Premier League Soccer team, it is the Liverpool FC because I have cousins there....but that is an ocean away)

    Hell, I am even having trouble in my own household. My daughter is talking like she might like the freeking Cowboys JUST because she likes the damn cheerleaders (her reasons for liking the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are WHOLLY different than my reasons for liking the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders)

    @the-gipper said:

    I think that is what I said above. If someone's folks were from that area it is totally understandable, but their wife's third cousin, six times removed? Bogus, yet I hear that sort of silliness.

    I have cousins in Minnesota, should I be a Viking fan? (Though, I will admit, that if I have an English Premier League Soccer team, it is the Liverpool FC because I have cousins there....but that is an ocean away)

    Hell, I am even having trouble in my own household. My daughter is talking like she might like the freeking Cowboys JUST because she likes the damn cheerleaders (her reasons for liking the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are WHOLLY different than my reasons for liking the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders)

    LOL Poor guy. I HAD A cheerleader. LOL... My Youngest is a Girl Basketball Player (JV) And Softball Player(Much more enjoyable than Cheerleading).