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  • How does everyone feel about Dq Jackson's return?

    I like his skills but not sure he warrants top ten dollars, which I think he is demanding. The fact that he has not been seen since his injury speaks volumes.

    I wish we had seen more of Veikune and Maiava to clear up the LB picture before going into negotiations with DQ

    I am confident and hopeful that we can retain Roth and Vickers.

  • The amount of money other people make is of no consequence to me. If they can parlay their skills into a substantial paycheck, then more power to them. I'd do the same if I had the chance. If it's okay to tell someone else they make too much money, then it's okay for them to do the same to me. There's no guarantee anyone else would give me more for what I do, given the chance. Granted, they make a lot for what they do but they have short careers and not all of the players make multi-millions of dollars. Their bodies are beaten up in the process and their careers can end at any moment because of injury.

    I would like to see the Browns hang on to the best players so the team can improve sooner rather than later. The $$$ end of that process is not up to me.

  • I agree Kathy. As I said, it is all a matter of scale, and these guys are hitting at a time when things are pretty good for them.

    It's not their fault that what they are able to do pays more than what you and i are able to do.

    It's just the way it is and always has been....and always should be.

    If people want to blame anybody, blame the fans. They are the ones who pay for tickets and fuel the whole thing.

    Curlers don't make much money because people aren't willing to pay to watch them.

    It's about demand.

  • I wonder how much more entertaining this game would be if each player only got paid if they won? It should be if you dont go out and win then after the game it's back to the 9 to 5 at the Chrysler plant to put food on the table. You would think people would realize that some of these players go soft after they sign for big money and still get paid even if they drop every pass that comes there way. Say you just signed an 8 year deal for 15 million, do you honestly think you would go out on the field and give it your all knowing that if you dont you will still get that money? I know I would think twice before taking that big hit that could turn me into a vegetable for the rest of my life. Im just waiting for the day America and the rest of the world get sick of watching a bunch of rich, whiney, athletes play a game while they sit at home trying to figure out how to make ends meet every week. I think this is why watching college football can be more entertaining most of the time. Everyone is playing there asses off to try and get that huge contract. Once they get drafted and sign on the dotted line it's a different story.

    Personally I dont think ANY of these guys should be making more then $100,000 a year but that's just me. I can understand that they're risking an injury that could cripple them for the rest of they're life and ruin any chance they have at getting real job so they need something in the bank just in case but what about all the people with real jobs who put they're life on the line every day? Take the military for example. They're out there willing to lose everything for less then $2000 a month. Seems to me they should be making the millions protecting the country while the people playing a game should be making that $2000 a month doing what they love to do.

  • If it was up to me I would rather play a game and make millions so I could retire when im 30 but im 5'5 and weigh 150lbs so I have to work a real job where they take half my check and give it people who dont want to work at all. Gotta love America.

  • I wonder how much more entertaining this game would be if each player only got paid if they won? It should be if you dont go out and win then after the game it's back to the 9 to 5 at the Chrysler plant to put food on the table. You would think people would realize that some of these players go soft after they sign for big money and still get paid even if they drop every pass that comes there way. Say you just signed an 8 year deal for 15 million, do you honestly think you would go out on the field and give it your all knowing that if you dont you will still get that money? I know I would think twice before taking that big hit that could turn me into a vegetable for the rest of my life. Im just waiting for the day America and the rest of the world get sick of watching a bunch of rich, whiney, athletes play a game while they sit at home trying to figure out how to make ends meet every week. I think this is why watching college football can be more entertaining most of the time. Everyone is playing there asses off to try and get that huge contract. Once they get drafted and sign on the dotted line it's a different story.

    Personally I dont think ANY of these guys should be making more then $100,000 a year but that's just me. I can understand that they're risking an injury that could cripple them for the rest of they're life and ruin any chance they have at getting real job so they need something in the bank just in case but what about all the people with real jobs who put they're life on the line every day? Take the military for example. They're out there willing to lose everything for less then $2000 a month. Seems to me they should be making the millions protecting the country while the people playing a game should be making that $2000 a month doing what they love to do.

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Personally I dont think ANY of these guys should be making more then $100,000 a year but that's just me. I can understand that they're risking an injury that could cripple them for the rest of they're life and ruin any chance they have at getting real job so they need something in the bank just in case but what about all the people with real jobs who put they're life on the line every day? Take the military for example. They're out there willing to lose everything for less then $2000 a month. Seems to me they should be making the millions protecting the country while the people playing a game should be making that $2000 a month doing what they love to do.

    All of that sounds great but you obviously don't understand how the world and business works.

    Counting guys who float in and out of the league, there are only 2000 people able to play NFL football. The demand is there and the supply is slim....thus....big bucks. Anybody who knows someone down at the union hall or at a higher position can work in a car plant. Young, old, weak, strong, skinny,fat, smart, not so smart....and there is a world full of people like that

    $100,000 a year...are you nuts, that isn't a lot of money. Any average Joe can make that with pre-planning, just a little luck, and lot's of effort .

    If we could defend the country with 2000 people....sure thing...pay them millions, otherwise, you need to come to grips with reality.

    But then, you probably think tickets should cost $6 a seat and you should get a bag of popcorn and a beer for $1...

    Dream on.

  • If it was up to me I would rather play a game and make millions so I could retire when im 30 but im 5'5 and weigh 150lbs so I have to work a real job where they take half my check and give it people who dont want to work at all. Gotta love America.

    @speedyd900rr said:

    If it was up to me I would rather play a game and make millions so I could retire when im 30 but im 5'5 and weigh 150lbs so I have to work a real job where they take half my check and give it people who dont want to work at all. Gotta love America.

    Now I agree with you there....no thumbs-up button, so...thumbs-up

  • So what do you have to say about pre 60's football when the players had to work a real job on top of playing the game? That showed it is possible but your saying it's not. If the shit worked back then why couldn't it work today?

    The average cost to train a marine is over 3 million. So yes it would be possible to give each person a million.

    Did you know that with the hundreds of billions they gave to the banks they could of gave each American over $100,000 instead? But no, rather then give the people they're own money back to pay off there mortgages and actually help the economy they gave it to the banks so they could stay in business and kick the same people out of there homes that they just got the money from.

    For the record, OUR TAXES pay to build the fukin stadium so yes tickets should be cheaper seeing as how if WE didnt pay for it then it wouldnt exist.

  • So what do you have to say about pre 60's football when the players had to work a real job on top of playing the game? That showed it is possible but your saying it's not. If the shit worked back then why couldn't it work today?

    The average cost to train a marine is over 3 million. So yes it would be possible to give each person a million.

    Did you know that with the hundreds of billions they gave to the banks they could of gave each American over $100,000 instead? But no, rather then give the people they're own money back to pay off there mortgages and actually help the economy they gave it to the banks so they could stay in business and kick the same people out of there homes that they just got the money from.

    For the record, OUR TAXES pay to build the fukin stadium so yes tickets should be cheaper seeing as how if WE didnt pay for it then it wouldnt exist.

    @speedyd900rr said:

    So what do you have to say about pre 60's football when the players had to work a real job on top of playing the game? That showed it is possible but your saying it's not. If the shit worked back then why couldn't it work today?

    The average cost to train a marine is over 3 million. So yes it would be possible to give each person a million.

    Did you know that with the hundreds of billions they gave to the banks they could of gave each American over $100,000 instead? But no, rather then give the people they're own money back to pay off there mortgages and actually help the economy they gave it to the banks so they could kick the same people out of there homes that they just got the money from.

    For the record, OUR TAXES pay to build the fukin stadium so yes tickets should be cheaper seeing as how if WE didnt pay for it then it wouldnt exist.

    The average cost to train a marine is over 3 million. So yes it would be possible to give each person a million.

    I question that figure, but if so, and we gave them a million dollars, we wouldn't have Marines trained to the same level would we??

    Did you know that with the hundreds of billions they gave to the banks they could of gave each American over $100,000 instead? But no, rather then give the people they're own money back to pay off there mortgages and actually help the economy they gave it to the banks so they could kick the same people out of there homes that they just got the money from.

    With 300 million people, that amounts to $30,000,000,000,000. That is 30 trillion FYI...even if you half the number to take away children etc...you can figure that one out...

    As you said, the bailout was in the billions, so again you are wrong.

    For the record, OUR TAXES pay to build the fukin stadium so yes tickets should be cheaper seeing as how if WE didnt pay for it then it wouldnt exist.

    At least this makes a little sense, but if you want to keep a team, that is what you do....it all goes back to demand...there are a lot of cities that would welcome a NFL team...and forgive me, was Aurora inside the area that had to pay a sin tax to help pay for the stadium?? I moved out of Cleveland 40 some years ago, so my memory is a little foggy....seems like Aurora is a pretty good ways east of Cleveland...again...my apologies in advance if I am off base on that point.

  • To the point on it costing $3,000,000 to train a Marine.

    There are roughly 180,000 Marines...so that equals 540,000,000,000.

    That is 540 billion...about the total of the defense budget...so we train these Marines but don't have rifles, ammo, tanks etc??

    Not to mention we don't train people in The Army, Navy, Air Force, or Coast Guard?? Sailors do have boats and aren't required to swim the Seven Seas.

    I am trying to inform you. If you are just making stuff up, well, I can't do anything about that.