Big Problem... Cribbs being snubbed
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ts_insulte.html
Ugh...
I love what Cribbs has done for us and I hope he is able to work out a deal but this type of shit makes me sick.
Ugh...
I love what Cribbs has done for us and I hope he is able to work out a deal but this type of shit makes me sick.
Agree,
I understand this kids been really patient
but jeebus..it's Wed..the gol damb season just ended! and they want an answer by today?
sure Peter, we'll get right on that
got nothin else going on this week anywaywonder why your not in the plans for next year?
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The funny thing is....yes he will be returning. Why? Well, he is STILL UNDER CONTRACT!! Dont get me wrong he deserves a raise but not top WR or RB money.
The funny thing is....yes he will be returning. Why? Well, he is STILL UNDER CONTRACT!! Dont get me wrong he deserves a raise but not top WR or RB money.
Agreed. Josh, get over it. You (maybe your agent) screwed up. You agreed to something, now man up and live up to your contract.
Does he deserve more? Probably. But don't make the Browns look like the bad guys. He agreed to a freakin' contract, now honor it.
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considering how busy mh is, this agent is a fool to try and force this at the current time, and expect immediate response. we essentially don't have a faculty atm, there is no one to work on his contract, let alone come to a deal on it. it seem's to me that josh's biggest problem is that he has a horrible agent working for him.
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Again the result of a dysfunctional organization. This should have been taken care of already and now that the season is completed and he is the greatest kick returner of all time of course his agent is going to go all guns blazing. He could have been reworked a lot sooner for realistic money but the Browns had their organizational heads up their asses and now the guy wants to break the bank. He and his agent are looking at it as they have waited long enough.
If teams kick away from him he is still serving his purpose cuz they will still have great field position. He will also be an even bigger part of the offense next year, perhaps as a straight up RB. Now it's going to be negotiating hell with a bunch of lawyers serving their best interests and grandstanding. Stupid.......
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Again the result of a dysfunctional organization. This should have been taken care of already and now that the season is completed and he is the greatest kick returner of all time of course his agent is going to go all guns blazing. He could have been reworked a lot sooner for realistic money but the Browns had their organizational heads up their asses and now the guy wants to break the bank. He and his agent are looking at it as they have waited long enough.
If teams kick away from him he is still serving his purpose cuz they will still have great field position. He will also be an even bigger part of the offense next year, perhaps as a straight up RB. Now it's going to be negotiating hell with a bunch of lawyers serving their best interests and grandstanding. Stupid.......
Again the result of a dysfunctional organization. This should have been taken care of already and now that the season is completed and he is the greatest kick returner of all time of course his agent is going to go all guns blazing. He could have been reworked a lot sooner for realistic money but the Browns had their organizational heads up their asses and now the guy wants to break the bank. He and his agent are looking at it as they have waited long enough.
If teams kick away from him he is still serving his purpose cuz they will still have great field position. He will also be an even bigger part of the offense next year, perhaps as a straight up RB. Now it's going to be negotiating hell with a bunch of lawyers serving their best interests and grandstanding. Stupid.......
yeah yeah yeah heard the same thing last year
he hasnt played up to getting more then 2-3 mil per year
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The funny thing is....yes he will be returning. Why? Well, he is STILL UNDER CONTRACT!! Dont get me wrong he deserves a raise but not top WR or RB money.
Agreed. Josh, get over it. You (maybe your agent) screwed up. You agreed to something, now man up and live up to your contract.
Does he deserve more? Probably. But don't make the Browns look like the bad guys. He agreed to a freakin' contract, now honor it.
Agreed. Josh, get over it. You (maybe your agent) screwed up. You agreed to something, now man up and live up to your contract.
Does he deserve more? Probably. But don't make the Browns look like the bad guys. He agreed to a freakin' contract, now honor it.
Agree. He has been a very good ST player and more....BUT, what if every other "very good"player on the Browns tried the same thing? It does not set a very good precedence for the other players if they do give Josh a new contract. Thomas......thinking, Hey I am one heck of a good LT....I want a new contract too!!! Just don't see how a team can do this without causing other possible player problems. JMHO
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I think they should create a new rule requiring players, agents, and teams to keep they're salaries private. If nobody knows who's making what then there would be no comparison.
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The first thing I thought when I read this was "Oh Sh*t"
This is going to be a huge mess in the off-season if this doesnt get resolved RIGHT NOW.
I have so many connections...I wish I knew Holmgren.
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its not a problem at all
he has 3 options IMO
A) takes what the browns offer him, shutup and play
B ) just keeps the contract he has, shuts up and plays
C) never plays another down in the NFL for 4 years by sitting or holding out since he didnt get a new contract and not getting traded or released
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its not a problem at all
he has 3 options IMO
A) takes what the browns offer him, shutup and play
B ) just keeps the contract he has, shuts up and plays
C) never plays another down in the NFL for 4 years by sitting or holding out since he didnt get a new contract and not getting traded or released
its not a problem at all
he has 3 options IMO
A) takes what the browns offer him, shutup and play
B ) just keeps the contract he has, shuts up and plays
C) never plays another down in the NFL for 4 years by sitting or holding out since he didnt get a new contract and not getting traded or released
I am pretty sure if Cribbs requested a trade, the Browns would trade him just like the Broncos traded Jay Cutler. So his options dramatically change. Teams are going to pay more than what we have offered him.
I hope Lerner sees what is happening. We have plenty of money to PAY THE MAN.
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its not a problem at all
he has 3 options IMO
A) takes what the browns offer him, shutup and play
B ) just keeps the contract he has, shuts up and plays
C) never plays another down in the NFL for 4 years by sitting or holding out since he didnt get a new contract and not getting traded or released
I am pretty sure if Cribbs requested a trade, the Browns would trade him just like the Broncos traded Jay Cutler. So his options dramatically change. Teams are going to pay more than what we have offered him.
I hope Lerner sees what is happening. We have plenty of money to PAY THE MAN.
I am pretty sure if Cribbs requested a trade, the Browns would trade him just like the Broncos traded Jay Cutler. So his options dramatically change. Teams are going to pay more than what we have offered him.
I hope Lerner sees what is happening. We have plenty of money to PAY THE MAN.
nope they wouldnt
the Cutler and Cribbs parts arent even comparable
Cutler plays a position of interest at QB that controls the whole game
Cribbs doesnt do anything well exept run and he has a at best 3rd round value which isnt worth trading
no need to pay him more then he has gotten offered he doesnt deserve it
maybe if he does something on offense or D that stands out then he should get paid
untill then absolutley not
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This....is....garbage.
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Should I wait for OTA's, the draft, another season to prove my worth?... and
Ok, enough of all that, I just hate being taken advantage of... Wooossaaaahh.. What else is new?
some more things hes tweeting
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Should I wait for OTA's, the draft, another season to prove my worth?... and
Ok, enough of all that, I just hate being taken advantage of... Wooossaaaahh.. What else is new?
some more things hes tweeting
Should I wait for OTA's, the draft, another season to prove my worth?... and
Ok, enough of all that, I just hate being taken advantage of... Wooossaaaahh.. What else is new?
some more things hes tweeting
I really need a twitter.
The second one hints that things have been resolved. Uh...have they?
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Quick question, who is the highest paid kick returner in the NFL? Does JC's contract compare for the better or worse. If its for the worse than its a damn shame. He signed the contract a few years back and he should honor till its over, but if you were in his shoes now and you were out performing the other guys at your work that make more than you, don't you think you deserve more. If we pay him chump change in a deal then can He say, shit no i am not going to run the wild cat or play wr, I' m getting paid just to return that there ball from my side to that there other side. This stuff should have been a done deal already. I am however super excited to see who will return kicks for us next year if Josh is traded or holds out. The man gives field position and "excitment" which gives the Browns great moral.
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New tweet: "Thanks for cheering me up I really needed it everyone, it feels like I've been betrayed by my best friend.."
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Quick question, who is the highest paid kick returner in the NFL? Does JC's contract compare for the better or worse. If its for the worse than its a damn shame. He signed the contract a few years back and he should honor till its over, but if you were in his shoes now and you were out performing the other guys at your work that make more than you, don't you think you deserve more. If we pay him chump change in a deal then can He say, shit no i am not going to run the wild cat or play wr, I' m getting paid just to return that there ball from my side to that there other side. This stuff should have been a done deal already. I am however super excited to see who will return kicks for us next year if Josh is traded or holds out. The man gives field position and "excitment" which gives the Browns great moral.
Quick question, who is the highest paid kick returner in the NFL? Does JC's contract compare for the better or worse. If its for the worse than its a damn shame. He signed the contract a few years back and he should honor till its over, but if you were in his shoes now and you were out performing the other guys at your work that make more than you, don't you think you deserve more. If we pay him chump change in a deal then can He say, shit no i am not going to run the wild cat or play wr, I' m getting paid just to return that there ball from my side to that there other side. This stuff should have been a done deal already. I am however super excited to see who will return kicks for us next year if Josh is traded or holds out. The man gives field position and "excitment" which gives the Browns great moral.
The problem for the Browns is Devin Hester set the ceiling for KRs- and it's mighty high. Like $5 million a year high. It isn't Josh's fault the Bears paid Hester stupid money. Couple other KRs in the $2 million+ range. Pay the JC $2.5 a mill year with say a $10 million signing bonus.
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I think the Browns are playing this smart, some what. Look at Devin Hester...he had a few good years then BAM! no more Hester. This is true in most cases of kick returners...When they first come into the league they excel, but after a few years the quickness fades and they lose that step needed to go all the way.
There are a few exceptions, like Brian Mitchell, but he was never as good as Josh Cribbs....but had a great career as a KR.
However, Cribbs does deserve 2-4 million for at least 2 years. Good Luck
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Ugh...
I love what Cribbs has done for us and I hope he is able to work out a deal but this type of shit makes me sick.
this is probably the most hillarious part of it all
he Browns have offered Josh Cribbs an "insulting'' $1.4 million a year and his agents are warning that he'll leave the team for good if they don't pay him what he deserves.
theres nothing they or cribbs can do and have no leverage the only thing they can do is retire and even then i think he has to stay retired for a few years since the browns would still have his contract rights
They need to treat him fairly or he'll never play for the Browns again,'' said agent Peter Schaffer. "He will demand a trade and he will walk out of there and they won't see him for the off-season -- they won't see him ever again.''
he can demand all he wants (or his agent can) but theres nothing they can do they have no leverage
The proposal was for $1.4 million a year, not much more than what Cribbs is making now and well below that of other top kick returners in NFL. Four days later, they pulled the offer, saying Browns owner Randy Lerner wanted to wait until the new president was hired.
this makes sence and Cribbs agents need to respect this and stop thinking they are above the browns
those are just my opinions
this is probably the most hillarious part of it all
he Browns have offered Josh Cribbs an "insulting'' $1.4 million a year and his agents are warning that he'll leave the team for good if they don't pay him what he deserves.
theres nothing they or cribbs can do and have no leverage the only thing they can do is retire and even then i think he has to stay retired for a few years since the browns would still have his contract rights
That isn't entirely true.
Cribbs holds the cards of public opinion, and why they are playing them at this time, because it is the only cards they hold.
The public knows when someone is overpaid, and they know when someone is underpaid.
In a neutral town like mine, I hear comments all the time that Cribbs is a beast.
If the Browns want to continue to look like a bumbling, mismanaged franchise, they need to keep playing the cards as they have.
This low offer only tells other teams who might want to trade to make a 5th round offer.
That isn't going to look good for the brass if Cribbs has offers from other teams the team doesn't want to take yet the team isn't willing to pay a proven performer.
I think the "Clowns" tag fits with the way we are handling this whole situation.
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