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  • I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

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  • P peterbell

    I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

    @peterbell said:

    I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

    Amen to that. Although I liked Jamal Lewis, since he was gone, the running game had to adapt and became much better.

    The Jets pickups, for the most part, have been good calls. Good ridence Braylon and good call by Mangini.

    My beef with Mangini is the manner he which he DID"NT handle the QB issue well at all. Quinn, then DA, then Quinn, etc. Although, given how things were going south in a handbasket I suppose he was grabbing for whatever might spark progress.

    I also blame Mangini for accepting the inept offensive play calling for the first several games.

    But ... we did finish well and things SEEM to have had a purpose and SEEM to have a positive result.

  • KosarfanK Kosarfan

    @peterbell said:

    I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

    Amen to that. Although I liked Jamal Lewis, since he was gone, the running game had to adapt and became much better.

    The Jets pickups, for the most part, have been good calls. Good ridence Braylon and good call by Mangini.

    My beef with Mangini is the manner he which he DID"NT handle the QB issue well at all. Quinn, then DA, then Quinn, etc. Although, given how things were going south in a handbasket I suppose he was grabbing for whatever might spark progress.

    I also blame Mangini for accepting the inept offensive play calling for the first several games.

    But ... we did finish well and things SEEM to have had a purpose and SEEM to have a positive result.

    @kosarfan said:

    Amen to that. Although I liked Jamal Lewis, since he was gone, the running game had to adapt and became much better.

    The Jets pickups, for the most part, have been good calls. Good ridence Braylon and good call by Mangini.

    My beef with Mangini is the manner he which he DID"NT handle the QB issue well at all. Quinn, then DA, then Quinn, etc. Although, given how things were going south in a handbasket I suppose he was grabbing for whatever might spark progress.

    I also blame Mangini for accepting the inept offensive play calling for the first several games.

    But ... we did finish well and things SEEM to have had a purpose and SEEM to have a positive result.

    I'm with you completely except for the playcalling comment. Somebody said here a while back that you can't play chess using all pawns. I think the "vanilla" offense early on was because it was all the team could handle in this new system. You saw late, once the players started playing instinctual, the playcalling getting more aggressive and creative. You work with what you have and early on, we had nothing.

    "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin
  • P peterbell

    I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

    @peterbell said:

    I think its pretty clear on this board the vast majority want Mangini to stay..something good is happening with this football team and I want it to continue..with Mangini and his staff..Marty Morninweig..UGH..John Fox.NO...Can we freakin stay the course now that we've seen some ACTUAL progress on the field with this team..Seriously

    Yeah but I'm afraid Holmgren wll dismiss this year altogether and allow his ego and loyalty to decide that bringing in one of his disciples is the right move. That would infuriate me to no end. We'll know how serious he is about helping this team by the decision he makes on the coach. If he keeps him, that shows that he will accept progress from anywhere in the orginization. If he fires him, it shows that he just wants to put his stamp on the whole thing. Granted Holmgren is well qualified to do so, but decisions based on ego in this league rarely work out. Al Davis, Butch Davis, Jerry Jones, Bill Belicheck going for it on 4th down, Phil Savage mortgaging our future to get his guys on the field. It is never a winning formula.

    "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin

  • He's welcome here if he brings Julius Peppers with him. I live in North Carolina also and have the pleasure of watching him get his $1,000,000/game performance weekly.

  • I think I'm pretty clearly on record as a supporter of what Mangini has done. But, of course, that means nothing to Holmgren. If he want's his guy, he'll have his guy.

    Out of all the possible "his guys", I'd be most pleased with John Fox taking over. I think he'd continue a lot of the basic principles that Mangini started. Moringweig, Zorn . . . those names make me want to gag. Holmgren, Heckert and Fox . . . after I got over the injustice, I think could get on board with that team.

  • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

    YES YES YES YES YES!

    IF...(AND ITS A BIG IF)

    MANGINI DOESNT GET FIRED. IF MANGINI IS HERE TO STAY THAN ILL STICK WITH HIM.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    YES YES YES YES YES!

    IF...(AND ITS A BIG IF)

    MANGINI DOESNT GET FIRED. IF MANGINI IS HERE TO STAY THAN ILL STICK WITH HIM.

    AGREE 100%, probably best HC available

  • I don't like Heckert either for that matter.

    At any rate I hate the Eagles.

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  • Does anyone realize how long it took John Fox to pull Jake Dellhome? It costed them their season. I believe Matt Moore went 4-1 after Jake thre more interceptions than touchdowns. I can only imagine what Fox would do with our QB controversy, whatever it is.

    I like Fox, but I don't think he has the brass we need in Cleveland. Too soft in many areas.

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  • No I don't want John Fox.He comes from whole different coaching tree then Holmgren.

  • I'd take John Fox if Mangini is fired.

    I'd rather keep Mangini another year.

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    Does anyone realize how long it took John Fox to pull Jake Dellhome? It costed them their season. I believe Matt Moore went 4-1 after Jake thre more interceptions than touchdowns. I can only imagine what Fox would do with our QB controversy, whatever it is.

    I like Fox, but I don't think he has the brass we need in Cleveland. Too soft in many areas.

    Metcalf_FTW said:

    Does anyone realize how long it took John Fox to pull Jake Dellhome? It costed them their season. I believe Matt Moore went 4-1 after Jake thre more interceptions than touchdowns. I can only imagine what Fox would do with our QB controversy, whatever it is.

    I like Fox, but I don't think he has the brass we need in Cleveland. Too soft in many areas.

    Jake was getting it done every year until this season, but he always h ad 2 or 3 really bad games a year. It's somewhat understandable that Fox stuck with him. But it is also just a bit worrisome that he tends to stick with players a little too long, like DeShaun Foster instead of Deangelo Williams, Shaky Jake, and a few others. But he is a great coach and if he were to be let go or leave he would be unemployed maybe for 48 hours at the most.

    :neutral_face:

  • who wants an old, tired, no-enthusiasm coach. no way. keep mangini or bring in a fireball. a year ago there were kirk ferentz sightings. what happened there? i'd keep manigini cuz he runs a tight ship. why everyone loves holmgren all of a sudden is a mystery to me. his last years in seattle were a joke. if he fires mangini (to bring in one of his blow boys) he loses respect in my book. fat xxxx.

  • I think the thread asks us - IF Mangini was fired then would we like john Fox. I dont think many of us are preferring Mangini over Fox. But supporting Fox - If Mangini got canned. FYI.

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