Josh Cribbs cleans out locker, feels like "it's over.''
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gimme a break!!! Dude is under contract for 3 more years...he can't play anywhere else....PERIOD! you think he's gonna sit for three years? MH been here two freaking days...probably just got an office today, doesn't have HIS staff to do any negotiations yet...jesus, give MH a time to take a shower first man !
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Cribbs getting near what he's chasing would'nt bother me one bit. Agreed he has to comply with his contract term, but I really believe his f%$king agent is filling his head with Kordell Stewart syndrome like contract hopes (prior to QB Kordell - when he was slash). Cribbs needs to hang around, build his talents elsewhere on the field and then his numbers will rise. As this program rises, his popularity will too and he can then, in another year, maybe 2 chase his own value. I sincerely hope Mangini steps in on his behalf with Holmgren and is able to somewhat satisfy Cribbs' wants. We need this guy back for the latest Browns team.
Guys dumping on Cribbs sucks. This team sucked A$$ for the first 3/4 of the seaon and the ONLY positive we could talk to anyone about was Josh Cribbs. He kept hope alive and deserves the respect he's earned in doing so !
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Geezus, Cribbs should just stop with the whiny Twitter messages and announcements about cleaning out his locker. In fact, just STFU completely and let your agent deal with it. If his agents are telling him to go public they are seriously misreading the situation. The Browns aren't going to suddenly fold their hand because of a couple newspaper articles, in fact they are likely to harden their position against these agents portraying them as liars in the press. Who really has the leverage here? It isn't Cribbs, he is under contract for the next three and if he doesn't report to camp they don't HAVE to trade him and he sure as hell can't play anywhere else other than the CFL and they aren't going to meet his salary demands either! While many of us fans think Cribbs should get a better deal, they aren't going to head down to Berea and set up a picket line for a guy crying about how 1.4 MILLION dollars a year is an insult. You signed that deal Josh and they gave you a sweet signing bonus. The Browns don't HAVE to renegotiate anything so stop crying to the press and tell your agents to negotiate quietly and something will probably get done.
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Friend of mine in the real estate says that Josh Cribbs just sold his house in Strongsville.
Dawgfanforever88 said:
Friend of mine in the real estate says that Josh Cribbs just sold his house in Strongsville.That was QUICK.
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I think Holmgren is busy doing Czar stuff right now, and is trying to get people in place to give Cribbs his contract, and his mouthy agents want to stir up trouble just as he got off the plane. Holmgren probably lowballed him just to piss off his mouthy agents. Cribbs will get a contract, and Holmgren will not overpay, and it will be fair.
Holmgren does not want to pull a Kosar/Belichick thing with the fans right from the start, unless Cribbs gets us a 1st round draft pick.
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any updates on this subject??
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any updates on this subject??
any updates on this subject??
His locker is still cleaned out if thats what you're asking.
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A friend of my remarked that Cribbs isn't helping himself with all of this public ranting, tweeting and whatever. I'm inclined to agree. It's a business negotiation that should be done in private. I also don't think Cribbs is getting as much support from the fans as he expected.
Woof Woof, Kathy http://cognitivemanifesto.com/ http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=49&officeID=9 Bendix ESP -
i love josh cribbs, but come on man. you have to know that there are more important things to do on this team right now. holmgren is still in his first week and he is deciding if he needed a new coach and is looking for a gm. you have to know that these two things alone are the most important things on the agenda right now. i think that josh either does know this or did before his agent got in his ear. this douche bag agent must have told cribbs that he could get him 3 mil a year on the first stage of negotiations. has this agent ever negotiated before? does he not know that the team always starts low and you have to get him to work their way up? what an ass. this agent is the reason why cribbs is thinking the way he is.
cribbs isn't completely innocent though. he is a grown man who makes his own decisions. he has to know that the off season is long and that you rarely get a contract done on the first offer. please josh, stop listening to your a-hole agent and be patient. these things don't happen overnight. the more cribbs makes a big deal out of it the less likely holmgren is to give in to him. for those of you out there with kids: how often do you give in to your kids when they pout and whine and scream and throw a tantrum? never. this is what is going to happen if cribbs doesn't relax a little bit.
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I heard a good interview with him yesterday afternoon on Sirius Radio, he backed tracked a little about the trade demand. Said he has not asked for one yet and doesn't want to unless the Browns don't earnestly try to give him a fair new contract.
He sounded very frustrated and betrayed by the Browns organization because the Savage regime promised to redo his deal if he outplayed it then Savage got fired. Mangini said he would redo his deal after this year if he performed again beyond expectations, he did but Mangini is no longer the head honcho in the Browns organization any more.
He sounded very humble and briefly talked about his ongoing charity work and a new business he just opened up in Cleveland - a bouncy house/video game arcade for kids. Doesn't seem like a man who wants to leave Cleveland.
He also brought up KR/PR/Back up DB Roscoe Parrish of the Bills makes $3.2 million. WTF? This is the same guy whose fumble late in Buffalo territory caused them the game against the Browns and in the first week of the season to New England. If this guy makes this kind of money to lose 2 games a year for Buffalo the Browns should at least pay the same to Cribbs who almost single handedly won us 2 games this year. Said the Browns low balled him with a $1.4 million per year offer. IMO he deserves Parrish money but I wouldn't pay him Hester money - Hester's agent robbed the Bears in that one. Pay the man what he's worth and keep him in Cleveland.
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Geezus, Cribbs should just stop with the whiny Twitter messages and announcements about cleaning out his locker. In fact, just STFU completely and let your agent deal with it. If his agents are telling him to go public they are seriously misreading the situation. The Browns aren't going to suddenly fold their hand because of a couple newspaper articles, in fact they are likely to harden their position against these agents portraying them as liars in the press. Who really has the leverage here? It isn't Cribbs, he is under contract for the next three and if he doesn't report to camp they don't HAVE to trade him and he sure as hell can't play anywhere else other than the CFL and they aren't going to meet his salary demands either! While many of us fans think Cribbs should get a better deal, they aren't going to head down to Berea and set up a picket line for a guy crying about how 1.4 MILLION dollars a year is an insult. You signed that deal Josh and they gave you a sweet signing bonus. The Browns don't HAVE to renegotiate anything so stop crying to the press and tell your agents to negotiate quietly and something will probably get done.
Geezus, Cribbs should just stop with the whiny Twitter messages and announcements about cleaning out his locker. In fact, just STFU completely and let your agent deal with it. If his agents are telling him to go public they are seriously misreading the situation. The Browns aren't going to suddenly fold their hand because of a couple newspaper articles, in fact they are likely to harden their position against these agents portraying them as liars in the press. Who really has the leverage here? It isn't Cribbs, he is under contract for the next three and if he doesn't report to camp they don't HAVE to trade him and he sure as hell can't play anywhere else other than the CFL and they aren't going to meet his salary demands either! While many of us fans think Cribbs should get a better deal, they aren't going to head down to Berea and set up a picket line for a guy crying about how 1.4 MILLION dollars a year is an insult. You signed that deal Josh and they gave you a sweet signing bonus. The Browns don't HAVE to renegotiate anything so stop crying to the press and tell your agents to negotiate quietly and something will probably get done.
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nice post, totally agree. his entitlement mindset is destroying all the hard work he just finished a few days ago. moving MUCH too swiftly for a front office that's still conducting interviews (!).
don't look under other kid's christmas trees if you don't think you can handle it Josh. you made this bed, there's no guarantee for you to get ANYTHING so you might want to instruct your agents not to kill your value playing hardball>>>while you're expecting a "favor".
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Breaking news, 52 other Browns players cleaned out their lockers at the end of the season as well!
Cribbs needs to fire his agents. They are trying to play hardball when we all know full well he is going to get paid. I hate agents/lawyers/herpes. That's why I don't have any one of them.
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He'll be back. Don't sweat it folks. This is just the leverage game that goes with low ball and high ball negotiations.
- Tom F.
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this isnt a story
every player cleans out his locker
every player says goodbye to the med staff after the year since they change every year or 2
same with Equipment guys
Cribbs said the Browns' $1.4 million a year offer feels "like I've been betrayed and stabbed in the back. I'm not just insulted by the number, but by the fact they consider me just a kick returner. I'm so much more than that.''
Cribbs said based on the "take it or leave it offer'' he's not at all optimistic about being back and that he'll most likely demand a trade in the near future.
"There's no way I'll play another down for the Browns without the new contract,'' he said. "They won't let me sit, because I have value. They'd be forced to trade me.''
also this part just shows how much of a jackass he really is
he is just a KR he had 20 catches for 185 yards and 1 TD and had 350 Rush yards for 1 TD
Derek Anderson had more Rushing TDs does that mean we should consider him more then a QB?
lawrence Vickers had 1 reciving TD does that mean we should consider him more then a FB?
he has done nothing in his career ever outside of being a KR
this isnt a story
every player cleans out his locker
every player says goodbye to the med staff after the year since they change every year or 2
same with Equipment guys
Cribbs said the Browns' $1.4 million a year offer feels "like I've been betrayed and stabbed in the back. I'm not just insulted by the number, but by the fact they consider me just a kick returner. I'm so much more than that.''
Cribbs said based on the "take it or leave it offer'' he's not at all optimistic about being back and that he'll most likely demand a trade in the near future.
"There's no way I'll play another down for the Browns without the new contract,'' he said. "They won't let me sit, because I have value. They'd be forced to trade me.''
also this part just shows how much of a jackass he really is
he is just a KR he had 20 catches for 185 yards and 1 TD and had 350 Rush yards for 1 TD
Derek Anderson had more Rushing TDs does that mean we should consider him more then a QB?
lawrence Vickers had 1 reciving TD does that mean we should consider him more then a FB?
he has done nothing in his career ever outside of being a KR
Do you even watch the games? Or do you just ignore the all aspects of the game other than kick returns? Cribbs added a whole new element to the offense this year. He also has either led or been among the leaders in special teams tackles for the last 3 seasons now! He is only going to get better as a receiver and running back and whatever else his future team has him do! He loves Cleveland, loves playing for the Browns, and loves the fans! And the fans love him! He IS the face of the team! Outside of Joe Thomas, he is the best player on the team! And he is ALREADY the all-time leader in KR TD's. How many catches did our receivers have this year?
MoMass 34 catches 624 Yds 3 TD
Harrison 34 220 2
Furrey 23 170 0
CRIBBS 20 135 1
Stuckey 19 198 1
Cribbs held his own there. It was spread out quite nicely for what we had. Our QB's didn't exactly light it up to ANY receiver. Braylon had more catches AFTER being traded than any of our receivers had.
As far as rushing the ball goes.
Harrison 194 carries 862 Yds 5 TD 4.4 YPC
Lewis 143 500 0 3.5
Jennings 63 220 1 3.5
CRIBBS 55 381 1 6.9
I like Cribbs' numbers there too! Again, our offense was stale for the first half or more of the season. Cribbs and Harrison combined to ignite it late. Imagine the numbers if we had a real OC for a full season!
And your argument about DA? 10 carries 8 yds 2 TD .8 YPC....No, he's NOT a RB too! Quinn was better than him there too...20 carries 98 yds 1 TD 4.9 YPC.
If you still think Cribbs is just a returner, despite the FACTS, then you are ignorant!
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i think his useage in the offense says more about the lack of other playmakers than it does about josh's offensive ability.
so he caught 20 balls.....if he knew how to run routes and shield defenders off, he would have had 40.
we had no QB, and were down to unproven backs with a good amount of talent....rookie and blocking TE's, no BE to stretch the field. this leads to his use in the flash....
if we have a capable offense, his role is further diminished to a gadget and ST player simply because we'll have an offense that does better than threaten 3 and out every drive.
stop over-valuing him....he's great at what he does, but its not gonna make or break this team. if it did, every superbowl contender would require such a skilled returner.
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this isnt a story
every player cleans out his locker
every player says goodbye to the med staff after the year since they change every year or 2
same with Equipment guys
Cribbs said the Browns' $1.4 million a year offer feels "like I've been betrayed and stabbed in the back. I'm not just insulted by the number, but by the fact they consider me just a kick returner. I'm so much more than that.''
Cribbs said based on the "take it or leave it offer'' he's not at all optimistic about being back and that he'll most likely demand a trade in the near future.
"There's no way I'll play another down for the Browns without the new contract,'' he said. "They won't let me sit, because I have value. They'd be forced to trade me.''
also this part just shows how much of a jackass he really is
he is just a KR he had 20 catches for 185 yards and 1 TD and had 350 Rush yards for 1 TD
Derek Anderson had more Rushing TDs does that mean we should consider him more then a QB?
lawrence Vickers had 1 reciving TD does that mean we should consider him more then a FB?
he has done nothing in his career ever outside of being a KR
Do you even watch the games? Or do you just ignore the all aspects of the game other than kick returns? Cribbs added a whole new element to the offense this year. He also has either led or been among the leaders in special teams tackles for the last 3 seasons now! He is only going to get better as a receiver and running back and whatever else his future team has him do! He loves Cleveland, loves playing for the Browns, and loves the fans! And the fans love him! He IS the face of the team! Outside of Joe Thomas, he is the best player on the team! And he is ALREADY the all-time leader in KR TD's. How many catches did our receivers have this year?
MoMass 34 catches 624 Yds 3 TD
Harrison 34 220 2
Furrey 23 170 0
CRIBBS 20 135 1
Stuckey 19 198 1
Cribbs held his own there. It was spread out quite nicely for what we had. Our QB's didn't exactly light it up to ANY receiver. Braylon had more catches AFTER being traded than any of our receivers had.
As far as rushing the ball goes.
Harrison 194 carries 862 Yds 5 TD 4.4 YPC
Lewis 143 500 0 3.5
Jennings 63 220 1 3.5
CRIBBS 55 381 1 6.9
I like Cribbs' numbers there too! Again, our offense was stale for the first half or more of the season. Cribbs and Harrison combined to ignite it late. Imagine the numbers if we had a real OC for a full season!
And your argument about DA? 10 carries 8 yds 2 TD .8 YPC....No, he's NOT a RB too! Quinn was better than him there too...20 carries 98 yds 1 TD 4.9 YPC.
If you still think Cribbs is just a returner, despite the FACTS, then you are ignorant!
Do you even watch the games? Or do you just ignore the all aspects of the game other than kick returns? Cribbs added a whole new element to the offense this year. He also has either led or been among the leaders in special teams tackles for the last 3 seasons now! He is only going to get better as a receiver and running back and whatever else his future team has him do!
not likley. Fail
He loves Cleveland, loves playing for the Browns, and loves the fans! And the fans love him! He IS the face of the team! Outside of Joe Thomas, he is the best player on the team!
cool hes not better then Shaun Rogers and that wont put points on the scoreboard or W in the schedule. Fail
And he is ALREADY the all-time leader in KR TD's. How many catches did our receivers have this year?
MoMass 34 catches 624 Yds 3 TD
Harrison 34 220 2
Furrey 23 170 0
CRIBBS 20 135 1
Stuckey 19 198 1
Cribbs held his own there. It was spread out quite nicely for what we had. Our QB's didn't exactly light it up to ANY receiver. Braylon had more catches AFTER being traded than any of our receivers had.
yawn 1 TD nuff said i never said any of our other WR played well so i dont see your point. Fail
As far as rushing the ball goes.
Harrison 194 carries 862 Yds 5 TD 4.4 YPC
Lewis 143 500 0 3.5
Jennings 63 220 1 3.5
CRIBBS 55 381 1 6.9
I like Cribbs' numbers there too!
wow what a tool you know absolutley nothing about football
Again, our offense was stale for the first half or more of the season. Cribbs and Harrison combined to ignite it late. Imagine the numbers if we had a real OC for a full season!
And your argument about DA? 10 carries 8 yds 2 TD .8 YPC....No, he's NOT a RB too! Quinn was better than him there too...20 carries 98 yds 1 TD 4.9 YPC.
If you still think Cribbs is just a returner, despite the FACTS, then you are ignorant!
the only FACT that matters is touchdown sorry buddy but im 100% correct he is one of the worst players on the team if you take away what he did on ST 100% proven fact
absoltuley horrible post. you should just never post again
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I heard a good interview with him yesterday afternoon on Sirius Radio, he backed tracked a little about the trade demand. Said he has not asked for one yet and doesn't want to unless the Browns don't earnestly try to give him a fair new contract.
He sounded very frustrated and betrayed by the Browns organization because the Savage regime promised to redo his deal if he outplayed it then Savage got fired. Mangini said he would redo his deal after this year if he performed again beyond expectations, he did but Mangini is no longer the head honcho in the Browns organization any more.
He sounded very humble and briefly talked about his ongoing charity work and a new business he just opened up in Cleveland - a bouncy house/video game arcade for kids. Doesn't seem like a man who wants to leave Cleveland.
He also brought up KR/PR/Back up DB Roscoe Parrish of the Bills makes $3.2 million. WTF? This is the same guy whose fumble late in Buffalo territory caused them the game against the Browns and in the first week of the season to New England. If this guy makes this kind of money to lose 2 games a year for Buffalo the Browns should at least pay the same to Cribbs who almost single handedly won us 2 games this year. Said the Browns low balled him with a $1.4 million per year offer. IMO he deserves Parrish money but I wouldn't pay him Hester money - Hester's agent robbed the Bears in that one. Pay the man what he's worth and keep him in Cleveland.
He also brought up KR/PR/Back up DB Roscoe Parrish of the Bills makes $3.2 million. WTF? This is the same guy whose fumble late in Buffalo territory caused them the game against the Browns and in the first week of the season to New England.
Leodis McKelvin was the one who fumbled the kickoff vs. new England, not Parrish.
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absoltuley horrible post. you should just never post again
Horrible post? Why? Because you have no reasonable response? No way to disprove the facts?
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A friend of my remarked that Cribbs isn't helping himself with all of this public ranting, tweeting and whatever. I'm inclined to agree. It's a business negotiation that should be done in private. I also don't think Cribbs is getting as much support from the fans as he expected.
A friend of my remarked that Cribbs isn't helping himself with all of this public ranting, tweeting and whatever. I'm inclined to agree. It's a business negotiation that should be done in private. I also don't think Cribbs is getting as much support from the fans as he expected.
I agree with you. As much as I think this isn't an issue at this point in the season, I think he's handling it wrong. Probably on the advice of his agents. He will get his money and it will be more than he would have gotten before the year started but I think his agents are telling him to play hardball and its unecessary. It also makes him look bad. He's an excellent player and person, let's not forget that, but he needs to relax and wait for the office to at least get staffed before he starts doing this. His agent probably went public thinking that they would garner fan support which is not the way to do it. They got an initial offer, they didn't like it, so now they negotiate. This playing hardball is all posturing, he needs a new agent.
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