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  • I would definitely like to see mangini come back for another year or 2 and just show what he can really do. If holmgren decides that is not a good idea, i would like to see who he brings in as GM and HC and see what staff members he keeps. I think holmgren can turn this team around with or without mangini.

    I am not sure how i feel about the West Coast offense and having the right QB's playing in it. I would much rather see a phenominal running game and a lights out defense and play with our amazing special teams to dominate the field position battle and win games that way. Maybe its because i saw how well it worked for the ravens during their super bowl run (i live in maryland). I don't have any confidence in our passing game or our QB's/WR's. If i had to take one O-line+RB combination for our team next year i would stick with the browns personell and add a drafted RT.

  • I would definitely like to see mangini come back for another year or 2 and just show what he can really do. If holmgren decides that is not a good idea, i would like to see who he brings in as GM and HC and see what staff members he keeps. I think holmgren can turn this team around with or without mangini.

    I am not sure how i feel about the West Coast offense and having the right QB's playing in it. I would much rather see a phenominal running game and a lights out defense and play with our amazing special teams to dominate the field position battle and win games that way. Maybe its because i saw how well it worked for the ravens during their super bowl run (i live in maryland). I don't have any confidence in our passing game or our QB's/WR's. If i had to take one O-line+RB combination for our team next year i would stick with the browns personell and add a drafted RT.

    @chubbs said:

    I would definitely like to see mangini come back for another year or 2 and just show what he can really do. If holmgren decides that is not a good idea, i would like to see who he brings in as GM and HC and see what staff members he keeps. I think holmgren can turn this team around with or without mangini.

    I am not sure how i feel about the West Coast offense and having the right QB's playing in it. I would much rather see a phenominal running game and a lights out defense and play with our amazing special teams to dominate the field position battle and win games that way. Maybe its because i saw how well it worked for the ravens during their super bowl run (i live in maryland). I don't have any confidence in our passing game or our QB's/WR's. If i had to take one O-line+RB combination for our team next year i would stick with the browns personell and add a drafted RT.

    FYI, the "West Coast Offense" was first run first here in Cleveland under Paul Brown and Otto Graham. Bill Walsh, PBs asst. coach in Cincinnati merely tweeked PBs schemes then claimed to have "invented" the WCO. (He didn't even invent the name....Bernie Kosar did that, another FYI). Walsh did a masterful job at it, just don't let anyone say that he "invented" it. If the WCO is to be played here under Holmgren, all that is happening is that it will be coming home.

  • Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

  • Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

    @4browns said:

    Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

    Yea, Cool Aid was that benefit concert to aid the effort against Global Warming. You know, it had bands participate like ABBA and Aha, and The Guess Who, The Leningrad Cowboys, Jorma Kaukonen, Ace of Base, Jewel (from Alaska), Rush, Bryan Adams, Loverboy, Anne Murray, Neil Young, Bachman-Turner Overdrive and Chilliwack. Special appearances were made by Ice-T, Ice Cube, and Vanilla Ice. Master of Ceremonies was William "The Refrigerator" Perry. And here is the hotel in which they all stayed (see the link):

    http://travel.webshots.com/album/65902383qiVvot

  • Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

    @4browns said:

    Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

    Coolade, Cool Aid, Kool Aid, Schmool Aid, I'm excited and optimistic, you knew what I meant.

  • @4browns said:

    Its called "Kool Aid" dammit. not "Cool Aid", get it right! lol but I share the optimism, hope we are heading in the right direction.

    kool_aid.jpg

    Coolade, Cool Aid, Kool Aid, Schmool Aid, I'm excited and optimistic, you knew what I meant.

    @firebiker911 said:

    Coolade, Cool Aid, Kool Aid, Schmool Aid, I'm excited and optimistic, you knew what I meant.

    I just choked a bit on holmgrens kool-aid after seeing the pathetic offer they gave cribbs...come on MH the guy is sick of being jerked around by one regime after another...the fans are sick of cribbs being jerked around by one regime after another ,do whats right and PAY THE MAN!

  • They just need to sign a couple of free agents and trade for a defensive linemen and I believe they will win the Super Bowl next year!

  • everyone is on holmgren's bandwagon. why? what has he shown us? he's been in the league long enough to know how to schmooz reporters and the public at a news conference. big deal. how about those news conferences concerning how he couldn't corral favre in gb or why the seahawks suck? remember those? yeah. get ready, it's coming. leave mangini there or he's just another big blowhard with his own agenda, going to hire his pals and give them jobs with contracts for the next five years that lerner and the browns will be paying after they're gone.

  • everyone is on holmgren's bandwagon. why? what has he shown us? he's been in the league long enough to know how to schmooz reporters and the public at a news conference. big deal. how about those news conferences concerning how he couldn't corral favre in gb or why the seahawks suck? remember those? yeah. get ready, it's coming. leave mangini there or he's just another big blowhard with his own agenda, going to hire his pals and give them jobs with contracts for the next five years that lerner and the browns will be paying after they're gone.

    @miktoxic said:

    everyone is on holmgren's bandwagon.

    i'm not, not in the slightest. when's the last time the Seahawks were scary?...but i do like the decision to retain EM so he's 1-0 so far. if this Cribbs thing has real legs, make that 1-1.

  • im tentatively on the wagon.....keeping mangini was a start to get there, but i want to see if this is a charade first.

    i figured MH would come in with the axe, but he surprised even me with his rationale. thats one good decision, so im on board. im not a fan of his system, the 4-3 especially, and with many of his draft picks. but he does offer specialty in one of our critical areas of need. so at best, im going in sceptically. if mangini gets the players he needs for his system, then im all in for holmgren. if we see the talent start to change on the defensive side of the ball, im gonna be real concerned.

    holmgren should get the benefit of the doubt since he's proved he knows what he's doing, but his decisions should always be scrutinized. even he admits this is new territory for him, so no one should just assume he is right simply because he says so.

  • i can agree with all of that choco, i'm on board. besides, apathy is also a kind of silent support...enablers as it were. some people just seem a bit star-struck by Holmy or something. maybe they know something i don't. 😁