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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    A few guys who should not be forgotten on these lists are :

    Warren Moon

    Jim Kelly

    Fran Tarkenton. Tarkenton held all the records Favre holds now for like a 20-25 year period.

    Also, on the list of the Top 20 QBs in TD passes thrown are a few "surprises":

    8. Vinny Testaverde

    10. Dave Krieg

    13. Drew Bledsoe

    14. Boomer Esiason

    15. John Hadl

    20. John Brodie

    I am not saying that I would put any of the above on a Top 20 list of QBs, I am simply pointing out that if scoring TDs is an important part of a QBs job, these guys did a good job.

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    @the-gipper said:

    A few guys who should not be forgotten on these lists are :

    Warren Moon

    Jim Kelly

    Fran Tarkenton. Tarkenton held all the records Favre holds now for like a 20-25 year period.

    Also, on the list of the Top 20 QBs in TD passes thrown are a few "surprises":

    8. Vinny Testaverde

    10. Dave Krieg

    13. Drew Bledsoe

    14. Boomer Esiason

    15. John Hadl

    20. John Brodie

    I am not saying that I would put any of the above on a Top 20 list of QBs, I am simply pointing out that if scoring TDs is an important part of a QBs job, these guys did a good job.

    i haven't had a chance to read throught this carefully. Did Ken Anderson make anyone's honorable mention list?

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      TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by TheClevelandSound
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      1. Otto Graham- The pioneer of the quarterback position. People would get sick of seeing him if there was an ESPN at the time.

      2. Dan Marino- True QB swag. One of the best.

      3. John Elway- I hate to say it, but he always new how to finish strong.

      4. Brett Favre- Soap Opera of the NFL, with skills to prove it.

      5. Peyton Manning- Most intelligent player to ever play the position.

      6. Troy Aikeman- A little overrated, but a classic nonetheless.

      7. Joe Namath- Another classic, true passion for the position.

      8. Tom Brady- Although he is fading away, his early years were better than some QB's entire careers.

      9. Kurt Warner- Need I say more? He is 39 and still has years left he could play.

      10. Joe Montana- Dynasty will always have its king.

      I think Brett and Peyton could possibly be number 2 and 3 if they win more superbowls. But no one surpasses Otto Graham.

      Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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        yosemitejamY yosemitejam wrote on last edited by
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        yet another journey to fantasy qb land

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          Otto Graham.

          Brian Sipe

          Bernie Kosar

          Bill Nelson

          Frank Ryan

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            BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by BrownB499
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            Joe Montana-Simply the Best

            Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

            Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

            Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

            John Elway-lucky SOB

            Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

            Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

            Dan Marino-What an arm

            Jim Plunket-Ditto

            Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

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            • BrownB499B BrownB499

              Joe Montana-Simply the Best

              Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

              Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

              Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

              John Elway-lucky SOB

              Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

              Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

              Dan Marino-What an arm

              Jim Plunket-Ditto

              Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

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              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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              @brownb499 said:

              Joe Montana-Simply the Best

              Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

              Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

              Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

              John Elway-lucky SOB

              Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

              Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

              Dan Marino-What an arm

              Jim Plunket-Ditto

              Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

              FINALLY someone included Staubach.....with under 2 minutes to play & the game on the line, he was the best I ever saw.

              Mike

              IN DORSEY I TRUST
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              • ATENEARS ATENEARSA Founder In Memoriam
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                ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                Ken Stabler

                Otto Graham

                Peyton Manning

                Joe Germaine

                Roger Staubach

                John Elway

                Brett Farve

                Joe Montana

                Dan Marino

                Drew Brees

                Derek Anderson

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                  tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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                  1. Ryaan Leaf'

                  2. Aklie Smith

                  3. Jacmarcus Russell

                  4. Tim Coach

                  5. DA

                  6. Brady Quinn

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                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                    1A) Montana

                    1B) Manning- he becomes undisputed #1 with another SB win

                    3) Graham- yeah, 10 for 10 counts for something, but that was a different era.

                    4) Marino

                    5) Farve (too many brain farts) wins the ironman award

                    6) Elway (still hate his ass)

                    7) Fouts

                    😎 Warren Moon- if you count his CFL stats

                    9) Kelly

                    10A) Brady

                    10B Warner

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                    • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

                      Ken Stabler

                      Otto Graham

                      Peyton Manning

                      Joe Germaine

                      Roger Staubach

                      John Elway

                      Brett Farve

                      Joe Montana

                      Dan Marino

                      Drew Brees

                      Derek Anderson

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                      BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by BrownB499
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                      @atenears said:

                      Ken Stabler

                      Otto Graham

                      Peyton Manning

                      Joe Germaine

                      Roger Staubach

                      John Elway

                      Brett Farve

                      Joe Montana

                      Dan Marino

                      Drew Brees

                      Derek Anderson

                      Joe Germaine !

                      Sorry man I gotta call BullSh!t on this one,Joe Germaine? over Craig Krenzel or Rex Kern ?

                      Very disappointed in you Ate, it's almost as if your not taking this serious! Joe Germaine !

                      " COM AWWWN MAINE "

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                      • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

                        1. Otto Graham- The pioneer of the quarterback position. People would get sick of seeing him if there was an ESPN at the time.

                        2. Dan Marino- True QB swag. One of the best.

                        3. John Elway- I hate to say it, but he always new how to finish strong.

                        4. Brett Favre- Soap Opera of the NFL, with skills to prove it.

                        5. Peyton Manning- Most intelligent player to ever play the position.

                        6. Troy Aikeman- A little overrated, but a classic nonetheless.

                        7. Joe Namath- Another classic, true passion for the position.

                        8. Tom Brady- Although he is fading away, his early years were better than some QB's entire careers.

                        9. Kurt Warner- Need I say more? He is 39 and still has years left he could play.

                        10. Joe Montana- Dynasty will always have its king.

                        I think Brett and Peyton could possibly be number 2 and 3 if they win more superbowls. But no one surpasses Otto Graham.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @theclevelandsound said:

                        1. Otto Graham- The pioneer of the quarterback position. People would get sick of seeing him if there was an ESPN at the time.

                        2. Dan Marino- True QB swag. One of the best.

                        3. John Elway- I hate to say it, but he always new how to finish strong.

                        4. Brett Favre- Soap Opera of the NFL, with skills to prove it.

                        5. Peyton Manning- Most intelligent player to ever play the position.

                        6. Troy Aikeman- A little overrated, but a classic nonetheless.

                        7. Joe Namath- Another classic, true passion for the position.

                        8. Tom Brady- Although he is fading away, his early years were better than some QB's entire careers.

                        9. Kurt Warner- Need I say more? He is 39 and still has years left he could play.

                        10. Joe Montana- Dynasty will always have its king.

                        I think Brett and Peyton could possibly be number 2 and 3 if they win more superbowls. But no one surpasses Otto Graham.

                        Maybe its an oversight on your part, but I cannot see any Top 10 list without Unitas being on it. Perhaps you had your reasons. I would like to hear them.

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                        • BrownB499B BrownB499

                          Joe Montana-Simply the Best

                          Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

                          Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

                          Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

                          John Elway-lucky SOB

                          Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

                          Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

                          Dan Marino-What an arm

                          Jim Plunket-Ditto

                          Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @brownb499 said:

                          Joe Montana-Simply the Best

                          Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

                          Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

                          Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

                          John Elway-lucky SOB

                          Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

                          Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

                          Dan Marino-What an arm

                          Jim Plunket-Ditto

                          Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

                          Nice that you mentioned Staubach. He is one that I kind of overlooked. I don't know if he would break my Top 10, but he would definitely be on the Honorable Mention roll.

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                          • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

                            @brownb499 said:

                            Joe Montana-Simply the Best

                            Otto Graham-On the same level as Ruth,Russell,Ali,Gehrig,Joe Louis & Jim Brown

                            Jim Kelly-4 Straight Super Bowls,yes he lost,still 4 straight super bowls

                            Terry Bradshaw-makes me sick...but as you said Gipper"wins count"

                            John Elway-lucky SOB

                            Roger Staubach-wrote the book on the modern QB

                            Peyton Manning-about to rewrite the book on the modern QB

                            Dan Marino-What an arm

                            Jim Plunket-Ditto

                            Brett Farve-has anybody ever enjoyed the game more?

                            FINALLY someone included Staubach.....with under 2 minutes to play & the game on the line, he was the best I ever saw.

                            Mike

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @canton-mike said:

                            FINALLY someone included Staubach.....with under 2 minutes to play & the game on the line, he was the best I ever saw.

                            Mike

                            Well, Canton Mike, nothing is stopping you from doing your own list and putting whomever you wish onto it. Even your homeboy, Todd Blackledge?

                            (If someone is going to mention Joe Germaine, you can mention Todd)

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                            • The GipperT The Gipper

                              @canton-mike said:

                              FINALLY someone included Staubach.....with under 2 minutes to play & the game on the line, he was the best I ever saw.

                              Mike

                              Well, Canton Mike, nothing is stopping you from doing your own list and putting whomever you wish onto it. Even your homeboy, Todd Blackledge?

                              (If someone is going to mention Joe Germaine, you can mention Todd)

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                              ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by ATENEARS
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              (If someone is going to mention Joe Germaine, you can mention Todd)

                              If I didn't list Ken Stabler and Joe Germaine, I could be considered for a troll after years of tossing them into the mix. Yeah, DA falls along these lines as well.

                              It's all good Gipper, the Snake & St. Joe have a place in my top-10.

                              The Snake the best left handed QB ever?

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                                Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                                I'm a Staubach fan too- probably the only Dallas player I liked in that era. Here goes my attempt at the list:

                                1) Otto Graham

                                2) John Elway (SOB ruined our 80s)

                                3) Johnny Unitas

                                4) Joe Montana

                                5) Fran Tarkenton

                                6) Brett Favre (don't like what he's become today though, a prima donna like Jim Kelly)

                                7) Terry Bradshaw

                                😎 Roger Staubach

                                9) Dan Marino

                                10) Dan Fouts

                                Honorable mention- Brian Sipe, Steve Young, Warren Moon, & Len Dawson

                                Favorite QB- Bernie Kosar...too bad his elbow got f-ed up in KC on opening day in 1988...he was truly one of the great deep ball passers ever

                                Karlis Missed
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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  No real order.....

                                  Graham

                                  Manning

                                  Favre

                                  Baugh

                                  Jergunsen

                                  YA Tittle

                                  Unitas

                                  Starr

                                  Montana

                                  Layne

                                  I could take jurgensen off the list except he threw the nicest pass ever, so he makes it....if i had to take him off, I add Kelly or Lamonica.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    8. Tom Brady- Although he is fading away, his early years were better than some QB's entire careers.

                                    What a JOKE! Dude just came off horrific knee surgery...is not fading away....and Is in top 5

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                                      we can hope, can't we?

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                                      • The GipperT The Gipper

                                        @theclevelandsound said:

                                        1. Otto Graham- The pioneer of the quarterback position. People would get sick of seeing him if there was an ESPN at the time.

                                        2. Dan Marino- True QB swag. One of the best.

                                        3. John Elway- I hate to say it, but he always new how to finish strong.

                                        4. Brett Favre- Soap Opera of the NFL, with skills to prove it.

                                        5. Peyton Manning- Most intelligent player to ever play the position.

                                        6. Troy Aikeman- A little overrated, but a classic nonetheless.

                                        7. Joe Namath- Another classic, true passion for the position.

                                        8. Tom Brady- Although he is fading away, his early years were better than some QB's entire careers.

                                        9. Kurt Warner- Need I say more? He is 39 and still has years left he could play.

                                        10. Joe Montana- Dynasty will always have its king.

                                        I think Brett and Peyton could possibly be number 2 and 3 if they win more superbowls. But no one surpasses Otto Graham.

                                        Maybe its an oversight on your part, but I cannot see any Top 10 list without Unitas being on it. Perhaps you had your reasons. I would like to hear them.

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Maybe its an oversight on your part, but I cannot see any Top 10 list without Unitas being on it. Perhaps you had your reasons. I would like to hear them.

                                        Well, FWIW, I can't argue much on how this list was put together- Unitas gets under rated perhaps because he played mostly in the 60s.

                                        Top 25 QBs All-Time

                                        For one game I still take Manning or Montana over Farve.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Maybe its an oversight on your part, but I cannot see any Top 10 list without Unitas being on it. Perhaps you had your reasons. I would like to hear them.

                                          Well, FWIW, I can't argue much on how this list was put together- Unitas gets under rated perhaps because he played mostly in the 60s.

                                          Top 25 QBs All-Time

                                          For one game I still take Manning or Montana over Farve.

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          Well, FWIW, I can't argue much on how this list was put together- Unitas gets under rated perhaps because he played mostly in the 60s.

                                          Top 25 QBs All-Time

                                          For one game I still take Manning or Montana over Farve.

                                          I am not sure about the legitimacy of the formula the guy in your link uses. When he has Drew Bledsoe as a better QB than 5 time champion Bart Starr.

                                          It is the same problem with the QB rating system.

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