Cowher says no
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While I do not think Cowher is coming here, I present to you that Saban vehemently denied taking the 'Bama job while in Miami - under contract.
Thanks for the meaningless anecdote. You're not seriously comparing the character of Bill Cowher to that of Nick Saban are you? When Cowher says something, I believe it. When Saban does, I bet on the exact opposite.
mz. said:
Thanks for the meaningless anecdote. You're not seriously comparing the character of Bill Cowher to that of Nick Saban are you? When Cowher says something, I believe it. When Saban does, I bet on the exact opposite.I have heard enough BS from every coach in the NFL and NCAA to know that your misguided belief in Cowher's words is Naïveté at its finest.
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mz. said:
Thanks for the meaningless anecdote. You're not seriously comparing the character of Bill Cowher to that of Nick Saban are you? When Cowher says something, I believe it. When Saban does, I bet on the exact opposite.I have heard enough BS from every coach in the NFL and NCAA to know that your misguided belief in Cowher's words is Naïveté at its finest.
I have heard enough BS from every coach in the NFL and NCAA to know that your misguided belief in Cowher's words is Naïveté at its finest.
Yeah, Bill Cowher (by all accounts a stand-up guy and a class act) is going to make a promise to his employer of what, 15 years?, that he would never coach the Browns, or any team in the AFC North as long as they still owned the Steelers, and break it to take over this mess? Please, bro, this isn't Nick Saban talking here...sorry you've become so jaded.
Guess I'm just being naive here, Desert Dawg.
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I have heard enough BS from every coach in the NFL and NCAA to know that your misguided belief in Cowher's words is Naïveté at its finest.
Yeah, Bill Cowher (by all accounts a stand-up guy and a class act) is going to make a promise to his employer of what, 15 years?, that he would never coach the Browns, or any team in the AFC North as long as they still owned the Steelers, and break it to take over this mess? Please, bro, this isn't Nick Saban talking here...sorry you've become so jaded.
Guess I'm just being naive here, Desert Dawg.
mz. said:
Yeah, Bill Cowher (by all accounts a stand-up guy and a class act) is going to make a promise to his employer of what, 15 years?, that he would never coach the Browns, or any team in the AFC North as long as they still owned the Steelers, and break it to take over this mess? Please, bro, this isn't Nick Saban talking here...sorry you've become so jaded.Guess I'm just being naive here, Desert Dawg.
I never said Cowher was taking the job did I? In fact I have stated over and over he is not taking the job, asswipe. I said I don't believe any coach when he says "I will NOT be coaching next season."
I have been civil on this board and if you want to start shit take it to PM.
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Im under the impression that no quality GM or HC types are going to want to work under randy lerner and his absentee ownership only appearing to hire and fire with no real football man ethics or philosophy who in their right mind other than an upstart like savage or crennel would dare stake their future to such an idiot owner?
Im under the impression that no quality GM or HC types are going to want to work under randy lerner and his absentee ownership only appearing to hire and fire with no real football man ethics or philosophy who in their right mind other than an upstart like savage or crennel would dare stake their future to such an idiot owner?
I would think just the opposite. Why wouldn't a GM want to come to a team where he has say so in most football operations and is provided the money he needs. Lerner has never closed the purse strings and he doesn't interfere in the football decisions of the staff.
Hell, I wish my boss would give me the tools and money I need, go away, and then judge me on the bottom line at years end.
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I don't want to start anything. I just felt the need to call out your ridiculous statement what I saw it, which, ironically, is pretty much what you thrive on around these parts.
Asswipe?
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With all the speculation about bringing in Cowher next year, it's time for a reality check.
First, the browns have not contacted Cowher. That has been reported by the Browns and by ESPN who talked to Cowher.
Second, Cowher has said on more then one occasion that he would never coach the Browns or any team in the AFC North as long as the Rooneys still owned the Steelers. He said it was about the respect that he has for the Rooneys.
So, please move on. He obviously isn't a consideration.
Know, are you looking for a retread or a up and coming assistant. Retreads usually end up being just that. Forget about Marty, and Green and Billick. They were fired for a reason and it usually was because they weren't winning.
New coaches that are winning in the NFL aren't the 30 year assistants, like Crennel and Nolan. Take a look around the league, Sean Payton, Zorn, Harbaugh, Mangini.
My vote goes for Spagnola. I don't want a college coach or a retread. I want a young energenic guy that will come in here and put a kick ass defense on the field. Someone who won't play a prevent defense in the 2nd quarter.
With all the speculation about bringing in Cowher next year, it's time for a reality check.
First, the browns have not contacted Cowher. That has been reported by the Browns and by ESPN who talked to Cowher.
Second, Cowher has said on more then one occasion that he would never coach the Browns or any team in the AFC North as long as the Rooneys still owned the Steelers. He said it was about the respect that he has for the Rooneys.
So, please move on. He obviously isn't a consideration.
Know, are you looking for a retread or a up and coming assistant. Retreads usually end up being just that. Forget about Marty, and Green and Billick. They were fired for a reason and it usually was because they weren't winning.
New coaches that are winning in the NFL aren't the 30 year assistants, like Crennel and Nolan. Take a look around the league, Sean Payton, Zorn, Harbaugh, Mangini.
My vote goes for Spagnola. I don't want a college coach or a retread. I want a young energenic guy that will come in here and put a kick ass defense on the field. Someone who won't play a prevent defense in the 2nd quarter.
I like your thinking Ytown about Cowher at least........it is hilariious to think he is coming here to work for our loser buffoon SEWAGE..............as far as coaches do not throw college guys under the bus.........winners are winners and the level of coaching is not the issue it is about getting players to play big and have schemes to help them
sumitimes I think the most overrated crap is assistants working for big time head coaches...................duh Crennel and Weis
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cowher does not owe the rooneys anything,business now adays is we pay you for your services ,espically it seems that way in th nfl.forget the loyal crap.
the steelers always did loose good players once they peaked because they wont pay,same with cowher he want's paid as a top teir coach period..
8 or 9 mill. he might just come..
not my first post had to re-register..
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the browns made me do it.
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Bernie Kosar HC
Clay Matthews DC
Brian Sipe OC
Wooo Hooo !!!

........ what the heck, Michael Dean Perry as Special Teams Coach !!!!!!
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You do mean Joe Greene do you not.........funny insulting a hall of famer by mispelling his name
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You do mean Joe Greene do you not.........funny insulting a hall of famer by mispelling his name
You do mean Joe Greene do you not.........funny insulting a hall of famer by mispelling his name
hmmm ...I typed the "e''... apparently not...lol. No Biggie... Sorry for my lack of perfection. Fixed... thanks for your diligence !
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No prob.............you da man and Mean Joe Greene was some hombre
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Bill Cowher wouldn't wipe his ass with Phil Sewage let alone work for him.
PULLLLLEEEZE, can we stop being stupid here?
NO QUALITY candidate will work for Phil Sewage FORGET ABOUT IT.
Bill Cowher wouldn't wipe his ass with Phil Sewage let alone work for him.
PULLLLLEEEZE, can we stop being stupid here?
NO QUALITY candidate will work for Phil Sewage FORGET ABOUT IT.
You are absolutely right.......................No established coach will come to a team where the headcoach has 100% say so on personnel decisions. The only thing you get is a retread like Dennis Green or some young buck with no experience.
Good coaches won't want to walk into a situation where they are set up to fail.
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mz. said:
It was a pipedream anyway. Lerner will most likely go ahead and hire some piece of shit retread like Andy Reid.Well, the newest rumor is Billick. Balt. won dispite Billick, not because of him.
Marty, Billick, Tice, Green and Reid.........................all retreads you can keep them.
Well, the newest rumor is Billick. Balt. won dispite Billick, not because of him.
Marty, Billick, Tice, Green and Reid.........................all retreads you can keep them.
I would rather have Billick than most of the other retreds out there, and since that's
probably what we are going to get.......... What we really need is a disciplinarian like
coughlin or I hate to say it but bellicheck. Anyone that would be willing to beat braylon
into remembering that he actually has hands. and maybe even talk the db's into at least
pretending to tackle.
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