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    I'll take Savage over the guy who drafted Pacman Jones any day.

    And I'm not too high on Charley Casserly either. The guy's trying to get a GM job by telling owners, "I was the genius who picked Mario Williams," when it was actually Kubiak's call.

    Inasmuch as I'm frustrated with Savage's management style, he's much better at drafting talent than Reese or Casserly.

    Aloysius said:

    And I'm not too high on Charley Casserly either. The guy's trying to get a GM job by telling owners, "I was the genius who picked Mario Williams," when it was actually Kubiak's call.

    I thought the same RE: Casserly, but I have really grown to respect him and his insight. I just feel like the guy "gets it."

    And Gary Kubiak can kiss my Bronco-hatin' ass. πŸ™‚

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  • I think these successful college coaches, like Urban Meyer, would be foolish to go coach in the NFL. They are worshipped on campus, paid very well, and can actually bring in their own players. Plus, no salary cap games to deal with. Look at Pete Carroll, who might have the best gig in football, he won't come back to the NFL because of some of the reasons above.

    Where's Russ Grimm? We need an NFL guy, IMHO.

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    I'll take Savage over the guy who drafted Pacman Jones any day.

    And I'm not too high on Charley Casserly either. The guy's trying to get a GM job by telling owners, "I was the genius who picked Mario Williams," when it was actually Kubiak's call.

    Inasmuch as I'm frustrated with Savage's management style, he's much better at drafting talent than Reese or Casserly.

    Aloysius said:

    And I'm not too high on Charley Casserly either. The guy's trying to get a GM job by telling owners, "I was the genius who picked Mario Williams," when it was actually Kubiak's call.

    No matter who's call it was, Casserly shouldn't get any credit. He quit very shortly after drafting Williams, so he either couldn't stand behind his own decision like a man or it was Kubiak's decision and he wanted out for it.

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    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    mz. said:

    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    You want to hire a guy because he sounds good on the TV?

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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    Aloysius said:

    And I'm not too high on Charley Casserly either. The guy's trying to get a GM job by telling owners, "I was the genius who picked Mario Williams," when it was actually Kubiak's call.

    I thought the same RE: Casserly, but I have really grown to respect him and his insight. I just feel like the guy "gets it."

    And Gary Kubiak can kiss my Bronco-hatin' ass. πŸ™‚

    mz. said:

    I thought the same RE: Casserly, but I have really grown to respect him and his insight. I just feel like the guy "gets it."

    Casserly had a reputation for being good with the media when he was GM, which is great...as long as you know how to draft players.

    Actually, what I would be interested in is brining in Casserly to work the media/management side of the front office, letting Savage focus exclusively on scouting. However, I doubt Savage would accept what would amount to a quasi-demotion.

    @dtbh said:

    No matter who's call it was, Casserly shouldn't get any credit. He quit very shortly after drafting Williams, so he either couldn't stand behind his own decision like a man or it was Kubiak's decision and he wanted out for it.

    I don't think he "quit" as much as he was forced out. The Texans retained him through the draft season, but it was understood that it was Kubiak's decision which way to go on the #1 pick.

    I'm not sure how much control Casserly had over the later picks, but I bet he's claiming he made those as well. Looking back, the Texans had a frickin' awesome '06 draft:

    • Round 1: Mario Williams - 'nuff said
    • Round 2: DeMeco Ryans - Defensive ROTY, great linebacker
    • Round 3: Charles Spencer - Looked like a possible franchise LT before suffering a devastating injury
    • Round 3: Eric Winston - Currently their starting RT.
    • Round 4: Owen Daniels - Promising young TE's on pace for 70 catches & 850 yards.
    • Round 6: Wali Lundy - Contributed as a rookie, but is no longer in the NFL
    • Round 7: David Anderson - Solid depth receiver who contributes on special teams
    If Casserly did make those later-round picks, I'd have a lot more respect for him.
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    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    mz. said:

    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    Casserly, the guy who was the Houston GM when they drafted Mario Williams, couldn't deal with the fans hating on him and quit? No thanks... Turns out he made a decent decision. Young and Bush aren't exactly tearing things up.

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    The Browns need changes at both GM and head coach, does anyone really believe that Cowher wants to come into this mess that Crennel and Savage has created when he can have a job of his choice?

    I don't want to hire another assistant coach with no track record as a head coach, how many times have we seen these great coordinators fail when they become the head coach, yes Spagnola (sp) McDaniel, Rex Ryan and others are top coordinators but they have not been the head man.

    I say a guy like Urban Meyer who has turned every team he has coached into a winner and looks like he is about to win his 2nd NCAA Championship, Meyer is ready to be a head coach in the NFL he is also very innovative something this team needs and personality wise he is the total opposite of RAC

    Now lets get a experienced GM in here and quit making the Browns the Detroit Lions of the AFC, Reece can get the front office in order and he also has many years experience as a NFL GM with the Titans.

    Sorry people Phil Savage is a glorified scout and not a GM and for all the pro Savage people who want to mention how he upgraded the roster from Butchies days well with 2 draft choices in the top 3 and close to 150 million in free agent money to spend on free agents who could not have upgraded the talent, but look what Savae got for all the money he spent and it does not look very good and I won't get started on his draft picks which for where the Browns were drafting have not been what you would expect.

    Please lets not hear any Mr. Sweatervest Jim Tressel talk about being head coach, I think Tressell has proven he can't make in game adjustments or beat anyone outside the Big Ten and this is the same guy who thinks the punt is a good offensive play.

    @sony-reed said:

    The Browns need changes at both GM and head coach, does anyone really believe that Cowher wants to come into this mess that Crennel and Savage has created when he can have a job of his choice?

    I don't want to hire another assistant coach with no track record as a head coach, how many times have we seen these great coordinators fail when they become the head coach, yes Spagnola (sp) McDaniel, Rex Ryan and others are top coordinators but they have not been the head man.

    I say a guy like Urban Meyer who has turned every team he has coached into a winner and looks like he is about to win his 2nd NCAA Championship, Meyer is ready to be a head coach in the NFL he is also very innovative something this team needs and personality wise he is the total opposite of RAC

    Now lets get a experienced GM in here and quit making the Browns the Detroit Lions of the AFC, Reece can get the front office in order and he also has many years experience as a NFL GM with the Titans.

    Sorry people Phil Savage is a glorified scout and not a GM and for all the pro Savage people who want to mention how he upgraded the roster from Butchies days well with 2 draft choices in the top 3 and close to 150 million in free agent money to spend on free agents who could not have upgraded the talent, but look what Savae got for all the money he spent and it does not look very good and I won't get started on his draft picks which for where the Browns were drafting have not been what you would expect.

    Please lets not hear any Mr. Sweatervest Jim Tressel talk about being head coach, I think Tressell has proven he can't make in game adjustments or beat anyone outside the Big Ten and this is the same guy who thinks the punt is a good offensive play.

    Great post...............I like the Urban Meyer idea.........NOT THE FLOYD REESE IDEA.........To me Tennessee has improved the last two years without Reese

    As far as Tressel is too sad you throw him under the bus for having the best record of all coaches in football the last 23 years..............but heh do what you wish because he lost two successive National Championship games when no one even plays in two straight.........too cool

    But I do like your thinking about SEWAGE he is totally useless

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    mz. said:

    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    Casserly, the guy who was the Houston GM when they drafted Mario Williams, couldn't deal with the fans hating on him and quit? No thanks... Turns out he made a decent decision. Young and Bush aren't exactly tearing things up.

    @pl4tinum said:

    Casserly, the guy who was the Houston GM when they drafted Mario Williams, couldn't deal with the fans hating on him and quit? No thanks...

    As I've mentioned, that's not at all what happened. He had already lost his job, but the owner had him stay on & resign after the draft.

  • Well the least Casserly could have done was fire off a f@#$ you e-mail... lol

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    Well the least Casserly could have done was fire off a f@#$ you e-mail... lol

    @pl4tinum said:

    Well the least Casserly could have done was fire off a f@#$ you e-mail... lol

    😁

    Instead of doing that, he's going around bragging about a decision that wasn't his.

    Here's an interview of Casserly from earlier this year:

    What was the single most difficult decision you had to make as a GM?

    Well it was probably the last one I ever made β€” taking Mario Williams as the number one overall pick in Houston in the 2006 draft. It came down to three names: Vince Young, Reggie Bush and Mario Williams. The popular pick was Vince Young. The second popular pick was Reggie Bush. And nobody wanted us to take Mario Williams. But we thought it was the right decision. We did it. And I think now, after Mario’s successful season, people are starting to see why we made that decision.

  • I haven't seen anywhere, Alo, where Kubiak claims the pick was his...

  • Yeah, I'm trying to find the article where I first read that it wasn't Casserly's pick.

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    mz. said:

    I would pay Charley Casserly some of my own $ to come be our GM. He is great on CBS' pregame show.

    You want to hire a guy because he sounds good on the TV?

    @vegasdogg said:

    You want to hire a guy because he sounds good on the TV?

    The TV comment was obviously (well, maybe not) tongue-in-cheek.

    Casserly had an outstanding career with the 'Skins, and learned from one of the best (Bobby Beathard). I don't see much to not like here.

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  • urban meyer isn't an NFL head coach. he's creative, but his offense is purely a college one. NFL players are too fast and smart to fall for the kind of misdirection he relies upon to have success. he'd be another spurrier in the NFL: someone who shouldn't have left college because their style of play isn't made for the NFL.

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    @vegasdogg said:

    You want to hire a guy because he sounds good on the TV?

    The TV comment was obviously (well, maybe not) tongue-in-cheek.

    Casserly had an outstanding career with the 'Skins, and learned from one of the best (Bobby Beathard). I don't see much to not like here.

    mz. said:

    The TV comment was obviously (well, maybe not) tongue-in-cheek.

    Casserly had an outstanding career with the 'Skins, and learned from one of the best (Bobby Beathard). I don't see much to not like here.

    In retrospect Casserly did the right thing in chosing Mario Williams and he was road kill because of that

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  • I'm surprised I can't find the original article, but here's Houston Chronicle reporter/columnist Richard Justice:

    [You have your facts wrong. Charley Casserly didn't pick Mario Williams. Gary Kubiak did.--Richard]

    It makes intuitive sense. After another horrible season, everyone knew that Casserly was about to get fired. If so, why would the owner let him decide who to take with the #1 overall pick?

    What the owner did do was allow Casserly to take the heat for Kubiak's decision to make the unpopular choice. For that, Casserly does deserve a little credit.

  • ? Guest

    I'm surprised I can't find the original article, but here's Houston Chronicle reporter/columnist Richard Justice:

    [You have your facts wrong. Charley Casserly didn't pick Mario Williams. Gary Kubiak did.--Richard]

    It makes intuitive sense. After another horrible season, everyone knew that Casserly was about to get fired. If so, why would the owner let him decide who to take with the #1 overall pick?

    What the owner did do was allow Casserly to take the heat for Kubiak's decision to make the unpopular choice. For that, Casserly does deserve a little credit.

    Aloysius said:

    It makes intuitive sense. After another horrible season, everyone knew that Casserly was about to get fired. If so, why would the owner let him decide who to take with the #1 overall pick?

    You're right, it does make intuitive sense, but this is the first time I've heard this, that's all.

  • Urban Meyer is an interesting suggestion. I can understand the hesitance about him succeeding in the NFL. However, he is a fiery and intelligent coach. With the right coordinators around him, I think he could succeed. He is also from Ashtabula originally, so he may be a Browns fan. Although, as someone pointed out, he probably has no plans to jump to the NFL. He has a great job without the pressure of being an NFL coach, and his winters are a hell of a lot warmer where he is.

  • Watch him turn into Spurrier and Saban...no thanks

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