Holmgren wants QB named before training camp
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Doubt it DP, he will make Mangini and CO pick. They could go either way (assuming both are still around)
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This certainly doesn't rule out that the starter is coming from another team ...
I'm sure Holmgren will have a lot of input at the meetings to discuss the QB situation. One of them is going and it won't matter which has the highest salary
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We still got the draft and FA to see how it all shakes out. So Anderson nor Quinn could be our starting QB come week 1.
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doesn't matter, when the team commits to a QB and dumps the other (assuming DA or BQ is chosen). everyone here will then be screaming for ratliff to get the start after 1 loss. and if ratliff isn't the number 2, they'll be screaming for whoever is.
Browns fans always prefer the QB who isn't actually playing. even if they are worse. been that way since the browns came back
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doesn't matter, when the team commits to a QB and dumps the other (assuming DA or BQ is chosen). everyone here will then be screaming for ratliff to get the start after 1 loss. and if ratliff isn't the number 2, they'll be screaming for whoever is.
Browns fans always prefer the QB who isn't actually playing. even if they are worse. been that way since the browns came back
doesn't matter, when the team commits to a QB and dumps the other (assuming DA or BQ is chosen). everyone here will then be screaming for ratliff to get the start after 1 loss. and if ratliff isn't the number 2, they'll be screaming for whoever is.
Browns fans always prefer the QB who isn't actually playing. even if they are worse. been that way since the browns came back
Well that's only true because by and large our QB has sucked to such an extent that we wanted to see the back-up cause hell, he couldn't be worse, right?
Other than 2007, I think that has been true.
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My money says if it's between DA and BQ, it will be BQ.
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This is good news and long overdue around this organization. It's all about the pre-season reps that are needed for the starting QB. Neither one of our guys had enough last season and it added to the rough start of the season.
For my money, DA is gonzo. He'll be traded or cut before the roster bonus is paid. I still believe Quinn can be our guy. He makes fewer mistakes and better decisions than DA.
Everyone wanted to talk about how our quarterbacks "regressed" under Daboll. The truth was that our talent at WR and TE disappeared after 2008. No Winslow, Edwards, Stallworth, etc. My point is that I believe Quinn will get better when our WR's and TE's are better.
Unfortunately, I don't know how we upgrade immediately this year when looking at the FA and draft crop at these positions. If anything, I like the tight ends in the draft more than the wide receivers. Gresham, Moeaki, and Hernandez would all help us immediately if drafted. After Bryant and Tate, who won't drop to us in the 2nd round, I don't think any of the wide receivers in the draft are better than what we have.
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If Holmy wants a starter, I am willing to bet it's anderson.
Not gonna happen their bubba.
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doesn't matter, when the team commits to a QB and dumps the other (assuming DA or BQ is chosen). everyone here will then be screaming for ratliff to get the start after 1 loss. and if ratliff isn't the number 2, they'll be screaming for whoever is.
Browns fans always prefer the QB who isn't actually playing. even if they are worse. been that way since the browns came back
Well that's only true because by and large our QB has sucked to such an extent that we wanted to see the back-up cause hell, he couldn't be worse, right?
Other than 2007, I think that has been true.
Well that's only true because by and large our QB has sucked to such an extent that we wanted to see the back-up cause hell, he couldn't be worse, right?
Other than 2007, I think that has been true.
and part of the reason we havn't had a good QB is because people/coaches don't give our QBs enough time/support to develope.
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Why is it that everytime someone refers to Brady Quinn they always talk about his decision making? His decision making skills are better than Derek Anderson but theres more to playing quarterback than smart decisions. I guess everyone overlooks the horrible accuracy that Brady has show so far.
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because intelligence isn't something a QB can just work on. BQ is a smart QB, thats one of his advantages. DA is a very stupid QB, and thats something that can't just be changed in a season or 2.
throwing mechanics, accuracy and what not are trainable physical skill sets. of which can be easily tweaked and improved upon in a very short amount of time when compared to QB smarts. a QB who is smart and makes good decisions, but with bad accuracy can be molded and shaped much easier than a qb who is dumber than rocks but has good accuracy.
In DA's case hes dumber than rocks, AND has poor accuracy. BQ at least has something to work with
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Kurt Warner, I heard, is going to be holding a press conference.
Will he retire? Is he at the end of his contract?
Maybe we could get him in with the Browns for a 1 yr deal, draft Zak Robinson to learn behind him, and trade
both DA for well... a 7th round pick, and Quinn for a 4th round pick ?
Something should happen. I don't see picking either one of the Browns qb's. Quinn never grabbed the reins and
DA kept throwing them on the ground, or to the other team.
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because intelligence isn't something a QB can just work on. BQ is a smart QB, thats one of his advantages. DA is a very stupid QB, and thats something that can't just be changed in a season or 2.
throwing mechanics, accuracy and what not are trainable physical skill sets. of which can be easily tweaked and improved upon in a very short amount of time when compared to QB smarts. a QB who is smart and makes good decisions, but with bad accuracy can be molded and shaped much easier than a qb who is dumber than rocks but has good accuracy.
In DA's case hes dumber than rocks, AND has poor accuracy. BQ at least has something to work with
because intelligence isn't something a QB can just work on. BQ is a smart QB, thats one of his advantages. DA is a very stupid QB, and thats something that can't just be changed in a season or 2.
throwing mechanics, accuracy and what not are trainable physical skill sets. of which can be easily tweaked and improved upon in a very short amount of time when compared to QB smarts. a QB who is smart and makes good decisions, but with bad accuracy can be molded and shaped much easier than a qb who is dumber than rocks but has good accuracy.
In DA's case hes dumber than rocks, AND has poor accuracy. BQ at least has something to work with
I'm trying not to start a debate over two bad QBs, but when has BQ showed his intelligence outside of his articulate interviews?He panicks as soon as the play materializes into something he wasn't expecting. Now, to me that says A, he doesn't know what he's seeing, and B, he doesn't have enough of an idea as to whats happening on the field to make a good decision. He either throws it to the 3rd option for a 2 yard gain, or he falls down and takes a sack. BQ has never shown he is a smart football player. He has always looked clueless out there. The same goes for DA which brings me to my point, these guys suck.
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Why is it that everytime someone refers to Brady Quinn they always talk about his decision making? His decision making skills are better than Derek Anderson but theres more to playing quarterback than smart decisions. I guess everyone overlooks the horrible accuracy that Brady has show so far.
Why is it that everytime someone refers to Brady Quinn they always talk about his decision making? His decision making skills are better than Derek Anderson but theres more to playing quarterback than smart decisions. I guess everyone overlooks the horrible accuracy that Brady has show so far.
And DA is known for his pinpoint throws, right?
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Zombo said:
That's a great reason for picking a QB to run your franchise ... because he's cheap.
Zombo
hahaha
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Zombo said:
Go get the best veteran that's available and draft his successor this year and let's get this QB thing behind us once and for all...
Zombo
Enter Trent Dilfer.
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Holmgren doesn't expect both Anderson and Quinn to be in camp
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 28, 2010 11:39 AM ET
Mike Holmgren has been given plenty of chances to back Brady Quinn this offseason, but he says it's too early in the process to call Quinn a starter.
It's not too early for Holmgren to declare that either Quinn or Derek Anderson will likely be elsewhere before training camp.
"I won't tell you that right now," Holmgren said Thursday on the Dan Patrick Show. "They're both here right now. We'll see how it goes. I'm not a big believer in that competition stuff. We better make up our mind before we go to camp and then put our resources into one guy."
Anderson's roster bonus in March and high base salary makes him the more likely trade candidate. Quinn's foot injury, however, could potentially keep him off the field in early OTAs.
Holmgren may not believe in competition, but we suspect he'll be bringing in a quarterback of his own that could be an option down the line. To this stage, neither Quinn nor Anderson has looked like a quarterback to put all of Cleveland's resources into.
this should be interesting to see how this plays out. i think da is will be dealt before bq.
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Zombo said:
I was thinking something like Donovan McNabb and Colt McCoy ... but we'll always have those fond Dilfer/McCown memories....Zombo
I'd take Kolb and Pike, personally. But I wouldn't be opposed to McNabb, either. I just don't like McCoy.
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