Troy Smith wants to come to Cleveland.
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I would do a Stuckey and 6th for him, they need a wr and this years draft is deep, we are going to get some kinda draft pick if we try and trade BQ anyway, so it would end up being and wash and we can move on from the DA vs BQ fued. Then we wont have to draft more than 1 qb this year. Get Levour or Pike in the 3rd.
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Get Don McNabb and draft Colt McCoy. A Chicago homie and a Texas redneck ... and let's hire local guys for the grounds crew, marketing and the training staff.
Zombo
Umm, that's actually my favorite plan. I'm just saying that Smith can be a player in this league and he is an option. I'm not sitting around here pining for nothing to get done just so homeboy Queen starts for another year. I want to be proactive, but Smith may be our only option down the line besides the draft.
At that point, we better hope he is better than you think he is. All the guy ever did to Penn State was kick the living shit out of them, so I'm not sure how you think he's no good. You know damn well his draft stock plummeted from the Florida game and his subsequent dbag behavior before the draft. Combine that with his height and weight from the banquet circuit and there you have it. Bottom line is he was better than Flacco last year but deathly ill, lost a shitload of weight and strength and Flaxseed took over.
I would bet right now if they had a fair competition in Bmore this year Smith would beat Flaxico out, but it will never happen. Flacco is the anointed one there being a first rounder. He played just well enough to render not giving Troymont a chance, hence he could still be very viable somewhere else.
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Heck, he isn't makin much more than league minimum....bring him in to camp, see if he has the right stuff. if not cut him looose..
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Zombo said:
He's a 6th round draft pick that has 2 NFL starts and 53% completion percentage.
You say he's not bad, what proof do you have that he is any good?
Zombo
We're not ALL going to agree on Troy Smith here. I think I'm almost beginning to understand why Loverboy used to put on his Lancelot Armor for his college hero. He certainly wanted us to see what he saw. I'll try not to be as abrasive and I know I'm not nearly as funny.
IMO, it's always been possible for guys like Steve Young, Vinny Testaverde, Joe Theismann, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Jim Plunkett, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck, Doug Flutie, Matt Schaub, Jim Harbaugh, Fran Tarkenton, and others to have much better luck on their 2nd/3rd pro team than their first. It usually has to start with being on an NFL payroll somewhere for that to be possible.
Worth noting: Terry Bradshaw and Dan Fouts weren't even completing 50% of their passes in their first 3 years or so. Joe Namath was a 50% completion guy lifetime. Which one of those guys didn't make the Hall of Fame?
Since I've witnessed countless success stories of QBs drafted between round 3 and 6 and others that needed a 2nd chnce elsewhere - I think it could be pertinent to Troy Smith. As I've said earlier in this thread, my favorite Browns' QB was Brian Sipe who was drafted in round 13. Rumor had it he wasn't nearly as prototypical as Mike Phipps, whom we selected in the 3rd slot of round 1 (requiring us to give away Paul Warfield in the process). I think we all learned how that one turned out.
Last but not least, if a guy like Mike Tomczak can start for 2 different NFL playoff teams in 2 different conferences - I'm pretty sure Troy Smith can experience some success in the right environment. He's got a WAY better arm and I don't remember feeling like I wanted to choke Troy Smith every other play at Ohio State quite the way Tomczak made me feel. If he's as bad as many accuse him of being - then Baltimore has ZERO problem parting with him in their own division right? That's how we got Dumb Ass; and they might have even thrown in a large screen TV for all we know. When Cinderfella encountered that early midnight in 2007, he lost more accuracy on his throw than Ricky Ankiel. And that ain't good if you're posing as an NFL QB.
- Tom F.
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I just don't see the Ravens willing to trade the guy to us at bargain bin price. Why??
I was never all that high on the guy myself, but people change and grow.
I wouldn't want to give up anything more than a 7th rounder for the guy.....ok....maybe 6th.
Any higher and you might as well draft a qb in that round and you probably have as good a shot the guy will work out and be fairly decent.
Why not just give them the Derek Anderson we've heard they missed so much? Wasn't he a 6th or 7th rounder? Troy wants out because he's NOT in their plans which seems to be the equivalent of DA here.
- Tom F.
Why not just give them the Derek Anderson we've heard they missed so much? Wasn't he a 6th or 7th rounder? Troy wants out because he's NOT in their plans which seems to be the equivalent of DA here.
- Tom F.
The ravens would NOT trade him for Anderson.........if we gave them Quinn and a fourth they may go for it. They understand Troy can play too bad too many do not
he got drafted low for two reasons one bad game the last........and he is short........same height as Drew Brees..........which makes the short thing obe now
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If he can learn to run on stilts, he can come. It is nice to hear someone actually wants to come to the Browns and play though, especially considering how piss poor we have been.
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Zombo said:
The list of college QBs that were great in college and nobody in the pros is as long as my dick.
A three-inch list? The font must be really small, to fit all those names on it.
I'm kidding. I am sure you're hung like [insert any porn star's name here that suits you].
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If he can learn to run on stilts, he can come. It is nice to hear someone actually wants to come to the Browns and play though, especially considering how piss poor we have been.
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Looks like someone in the media agrees that Troy Smith should be a member of the Browns.
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Looks like someone in the media agrees that Troy Smith should be a member of the Browns.
Looks like someone in the media agrees that Troy Smith should be a member of the Browns.
when you say someone in the media you mean: some. one. i write better tribble in my dreams. troy smith? no.
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Looks like someone in the media agrees that Troy Smith should be a member of the Browns.
when you say someone in the media you mean: some. one. i write better tribble in my dreams. troy smith? no.
when you say someone in the media you mean: some. one. i write better tribble in my dreams. troy smith? no.
I am one who actually think Troy Smith could be a good NFL QB, and wouldn't mind giving him a shot in Cleveland, if say the Ravens would let him go for a 3rd rounder. Although I doubt the Ravens would trade him to us regardless.
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