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  • Zombo said:

    He was with the Browns in training camp in 99. He was a little stiff then, but had a good arm.

    Zombo

    I liked Philpot or whatever his name was. I was just starting to really get into that stuff when they folded.

  • what happened to their previous qb, raymond philyaw? i assumed they would be bringing back the players and coaches who were on their squad during their first and only season in cleveland (08). we had some good players on that squad.

  • Zombo said:

    He was with the Browns in training camp in 99. He was a little stiff then, but had a good arm.

    Zombo

    I liked Philpot or whatever his name was. I was just starting to really get into that stuff when they folded.

    @riffer-x said:

    I liked Philpot or whatever his name was. I was just starting to really get into that stuff when they folded.

    i was to. i started getting into arena football around 03, but wished cleveland would get a team so i could have one to root for.

  • So? As I mentioned on the other thread, is this guy the next Kurt Warner?

  • The Arena League is a great training ground for guys that are capable physically (like Warner) of being NFL QB's. The speed of the game and quick/accurate decision making are huge for guys that can translate it to the NFL level. Most of your Arena QB's are serious gamers but are either smaller or just don't have an NFL arm. It doesn't mean they can't play a bitching QB at the Arena level though, and many NFL QB's wouldn't be any good in the Arena League. DA comes to mind as being one who would suck major balls in the AFL.

  • The Arena League is a great training ground for guys that are capable physically (like Warner) of being NFL QB's. The speed of the game and quick/accurate decision making are huge for guys that can translate it to the NFL level. Most of your Arena QB's are serious gamers but are either smaller or just don't have an NFL arm. It doesn't mean they can't play a bitching QB at the Arena level though, and many NFL QB's wouldn't be any good in the Arena League. DA comes to mind as being one who would suck major balls in the AFL.

    @riffer-x said:

    The Arena League is a great training ground for guys that are capable physically (like Warner) of being NFL QB's. The speed of the game and quick/accurate decision making are huge for guys that can translate it to the NFL level. Most of your Arena QB's are serious gamers but are either smaller or just don't have an NFL arm. It doesn't mean they can't play a bitching QB at the Arena level though, and many NFL QB's wouldn't be any good in the Arena League. DA comes to mind as being one who would suck major balls in the AFL.

    Who else besides Warner has come out of the Arena League to have NFL Success?

  • @riffer-x said:

    The Arena League is a great training ground for guys that are capable physically (like Warner) of being NFL QB's. The speed of the game and quick/accurate decision making are huge for guys that can translate it to the NFL level. Most of your Arena QB's are serious gamers but are either smaller or just don't have an NFL arm. It doesn't mean they can't play a bitching QB at the Arena level though, and many NFL QB's wouldn't be any good in the Arena League. DA comes to mind as being one who would suck major balls in the AFL.

    Who else besides Warner has come out of the Arena League to have NFL Success?

    @the-gipper said:

    Who else besides Warner has come out of the Arena League to have NFL Success?

    Well no one has had the NFL success Warner has in such a transition. Its practically unheard of, which is why Kurt's story is so unique

  • @the-gipper said:

    Who else besides Warner has come out of the Arena League to have NFL Success?

    Well no one has had the NFL success Warner has in such a transition. Its practically unheard of, which is why Kurt's story is so unique

    @tn-browns-backer said:

    Well no one has had the NFL success Warner has in such a transition. Its practically unheard of, which is why Kurt's story is so unique

    OK, so, no one else has come into the NFL and had a Hall of Fame career like Warner, but have any others come out and had steady, if not as spectacular a career? Even if they have started a handful of games?

  • In doing some research, the only names that I came across who graduated from the Arena League to the NFL with any success besides Kurt Warner were:

    Oronde Gadsen WR

    Paul Justin QB

    Jay Feeley K

    Rob Bironas K

    That's all I could come up with. Not so good when your best graduates are kickers.

  • I wasn't implying that the Arena League is like a minor league I was saying that it can greatly improve someone like Warner's game. Guys with his skills usually never end up there. He credits the AFL with taking his game from suck to good overnight.

    There are a shitload of QB's in the NFL now that would develop a ton with a year in the AFL, no doubt in my mind but it just doesn't happen cuz the AFL is basically a street league.

    Oh yeah, I meant Raymond Philyaw earlier was a pretty good QB for the Glads, i liked him.