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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @jrb12711 said:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4920302

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/antonio-cromartie/401259

    The story basically says that they are looking for a RB or a decent draft pick where they can get a RB in the draft. If we decide not to go Joe Haden with our 1st round pick, I'd be content giving up a third round pick for him. I think he was a little overrated after his incredible '07 season, but he's definitely a solid starter. Opinions?

    I don't know why we couldn't pick him up with a third rounder say, AND take Haden in the first round. OK, so, maybe he is a bit overrated, but he is still a talent.

    Who do we have at CB on this roster that is better?

    Maybe Eric Wright. Certainly not Brandon McDonald. If we had Wright, Cromartie and Haden at corner wouldn't that sound pretty good to you all? With 4-5 receiver sets all three would see plenty of playing time.

    Fair to say?

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    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know why we couldn't pick him up with a third rounder say, AND take Haden in the first round. OK, so, maybe he is a bit overrated, but he is still a talent.

    Who do we have at CB on this roster that is better?

    Maybe Eric Wright. Certainly not Brandon McDonald. If we had Wright, Cromartie and Haden at corner wouldn't that sound pretty good to you all? With 4-5 receiver sets all three would see plenty of playing time.

    Fair to say?

    Agreed. He is a solid option at CB.

    McDonald sucks. Although I do find it comical when he tackles. There should be a drinking game every time he gets run over, tries to strip the ball instead of tackling, pusses out on tackles, or just plain misses. Even my girl picked it out and she watches 60 plays a year, "why is is trying to pull the ball away from him and not get him down"? McDonald is a clown, pun intended.

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    • The GipperT The Gipper

      @jrb12711 said:

      http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4920302

      http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/antonio-cromartie/401259

      The story basically says that they are looking for a RB or a decent draft pick where they can get a RB in the draft. If we decide not to go Joe Haden with our 1st round pick, I'd be content giving up a third round pick for him. I think he was a little overrated after his incredible '07 season, but he's definitely a solid starter. Opinions?

      I don't know why we couldn't pick him up with a third rounder say, AND take Haden in the first round. OK, so, maybe he is a bit overrated, but he is still a talent.

      Who do we have at CB on this roster that is better?

      Maybe Eric Wright. Certainly not Brandon McDonald. If we had Wright, Cromartie and Haden at corner wouldn't that sound pretty good to you all? With 4-5 receiver sets all three would see plenty of playing time.

      Fair to say?

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      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      I don't know why we couldn't pick him up with a third rounder say, AND take Haden in the first round. OK, so, maybe he is a bit overrated, but he is still a talent.

      Who do we have at CB on this roster that is better?

      Maybe Eric Wright. Certainly not Brandon McDonald. If we had Wright, Cromartie and Haden at corner wouldn't that sound pretty good to you all? With 4-5 receiver sets all three would see plenty of playing time.

      Fair to say?

      i don't think he's overrated in terms of talent, more just hype if that makes any sense. He had one incredible year and people rode his ass when he didn't keep goin on at that pace.

      I just have a feeling the chargers will want more than a 3rd for him, and idk if i'd want to put up more than that. It'd be nice to have some depth at the position though.

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        cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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        If they did by some chance make a trade for him, for a pick, would we then be drafting a QB? I would prefer Spiller.

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          If they did by some chance make a trade for him, for a pick, would we then be drafting a QB? I would prefer Spiller.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @cambridgeho said:

          If they did by some chance make a trade for him, for a pick, would we then be drafting a QB? I would prefer Spiller.

          What would trading say a third round pick for Cromartie have to do with drafting a QB? I don't think the Browns need to draft a QB unless they go for one in their low round picks. Maybe they can find a 6th rounder to win 3 SBs for them.

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            @cambridgeho said:

            If they did by some chance make a trade for him, for a pick, would we then be drafting a QB? I would prefer Spiller.

            What would trading say a third round pick for Cromartie have to do with drafting a QB? I don't think the Browns need to draft a QB unless they go for one in their low round picks. Maybe they can find a 6th rounder to win 3 SBs for them.

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            cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            What would trading say a third round pick for Cromartie have to do with drafting a QB? I don't think the Browns need to draft a QB unless they go for one in their low round picks. Maybe they can find a 6th rounder to win 3 SBs for them.

            If we get a good coner in a trade, would we use the 7th overall to get a QB instead of Hayden was my question. What way would we go if we dont need to draft Hayden then? Like I said I would want Spiller at 7.

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              He's just not a Mangini guy at all. He's a distraction the locker room and just a general pain in the ass.

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                @the-gipper said:

                What would trading say a third round pick for Cromartie have to do with drafting a QB? I don't think the Browns need to draft a QB unless they go for one in their low round picks. Maybe they can find a 6th rounder to win 3 SBs for them.

                If we get a good coner in a trade, would we use the 7th overall to get a QB instead of Hayden was my question. What way would we go if we dont need to draft Hayden then? Like I said I would want Spiller at 7.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @cambridgeho said:

                If we get a good coner in a trade, would we use the 7th overall to get a QB instead of Hayden was my question. What way would we go if we dont need to draft Hayden then? Like I said I would want Spiller at 7.

                If we don't draft Haden, then go for defensive line or linebacker. Stay away from these QBs. And I think Spiller is someone more of a 20th selection, not 7th. Don't pick him up there unless you trade down.

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                  ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                  you guys are forgetting the very huge fact that the chargers want a running back in return. who could we send that would be good enough to get cromartie in return? we have no ammo in this gun fight.

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                    you guys are forgetting the very huge fact that the chargers want a running back in return. who could we send that would be good enough to get cromartie in return? we have no ammo in this gun fight.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevelandfanforlife said:

                    you guys are forgetting the very huge fact that the chargers want a running back in return. who could we send that would be good enough to get cromartie in return? we have no ammo in this gun fight.

                    Unless we could convince them that Jerome Harrison is the real deal. (but they may see Darren Sproles as their equivalent to Harrison)

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                      @clevelandfanforlife said:

                      you guys are forgetting the very huge fact that the chargers want a running back in return. who could we send that would be good enough to get cromartie in return? we have no ammo in this gun fight.

                      Unless we could convince them that Jerome Harrison is the real deal. (but they may see Darren Sproles as their equivalent to Harrison)

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                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Unless we could convince them that Jerome Harrison is the real deal. (but they may see Darren Sproles as their equivalent to Harrison)

                      why is anyone even discussing trading harrison? he was the only bright spot on offense last year besides cribbs. if we had a right side of the oline his numbers in the last five games would have been better. sproles made a name for himself and he has talent but unless (like you said) we can get him with a low round pick, screw it.

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Unless we could convince them that Jerome Harrison is the real deal. (but they may see Darren Sproles as their equivalent to Harrison)

                        why is anyone even discussing trading harrison? he was the only bright spot on offense last year besides cribbs. if we had a right side of the oline his numbers in the last five games would have been better. sproles made a name for himself and he has talent but unless (like you said) we can get him with a low round pick, screw it.

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                        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                        @miktoxic said:

                        why is anyone even discussing trading harrison? he was the only bright spot on offense last year besides cribbs. if we had a right side of the oline his numbers in the last five games would have been better. sproles made a name for himself and he has talent but unless (like you said) we can get him with a low round pick, screw it.

                        He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                        I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                        He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

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                          @miktoxic said:

                          why is anyone even discussing trading harrison? he was the only bright spot on offense last year besides cribbs. if we had a right side of the oline his numbers in the last five games would have been better. sproles made a name for himself and he has talent but unless (like you said) we can get him with a low round pick, screw it.

                          He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                          I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                          He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

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                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                          He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                          I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                          He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

                          Who are you kidding harrison has been making plays ever since his first preseason game with the browns. Every time he got the ball he was making big plays. Why do you think everyone was clamoring for him to get more playing time to begin with?

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                            @miktoxic said:

                            why is anyone even discussing trading harrison? he was the only bright spot on offense last year besides cribbs. if we had a right side of the oline his numbers in the last five games would have been better. sproles made a name for himself and he has talent but unless (like you said) we can get him with a low round pick, screw it.

                            He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                            I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                            He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                            I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                            He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

                            So we finally get a coaching staff to turn the guy loose, he kicks all kinds of ass and now we should move him?

                            This kid is a running back folks, flat out. Kid hit it up for 2000 his last year in the Pac Ten. All you gotta do is watch him run and it's obvious dude is a very nice back. Yeah, he has to prove he can do it over 16 games but that's why you draft a guy like Spiller to compliment him etc. We still have Davis and Jennings but why on earth anybody would want to move the best looking back we've had since the rebirth the second he gets his opportunity boggles my mind.

                            We could always see if Ben Gay is not in prison or James Jackson doesn't weigh 280 now. How about Mo Clarett getting out soon?

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                              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                              He was a bright spot against terrible run defenses. Jennings had a better performance against Pittsburgh, and a better performance against San Diego. Granted, Jennings' performances weren't shocking by any stretch of the imagination.

                              I'm not on one side or the other, I just don't want to jump on the Harrison bandwagon simply becuase he rushed for a ton of yards on 30-40 carries against bad defensive teams.

                              He actually may of higher value to us in the trade market, simply because of his inflated numbers in the tail end of the season. If we could get a good enough deal for him, I believe Holmgren and Co. would part ways without question.

                              So we finally get a coaching staff to turn the guy loose, he kicks all kinds of ass and now we should move him?

                              This kid is a running back folks, flat out. Kid hit it up for 2000 his last year in the Pac Ten. All you gotta do is watch him run and it's obvious dude is a very nice back. Yeah, he has to prove he can do it over 16 games but that's why you draft a guy like Spiller to compliment him etc. We still have Davis and Jennings but why on earth anybody would want to move the best looking back we've had since the rebirth the second he gets his opportunity boggles my mind.

                              We could always see if Ben Gay is not in prison or James Jackson doesn't weigh 280 now. How about Mo Clarett getting out soon?

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @riffer-x said:

                              So we finally get a coaching staff to turn the guy loose, he kicks all kinds of ass and now we should move him?

                              This kid is a running back folks, flat out. Kid hit it up for 2000 his last year in the Pac Ten. All you gotta do is watch him run and it's obvious dude is a very nice back. Yeah, he has to prove he can do it over 16 games but that's why you draft a guy like Spiller to compliment him etc. We still have Davis and Jennings but why on earth anybody would want to move the best looking back we've had since the rebirth the second he gets his opportunity boggles my mind.

                              We could always see if Ben Gay is not in prison or James Jackson doesn't weigh 280 now. How about Mo Clarett getting out soon?

                              It was on the news, Clarett may indeed be released soon if hasn't been already. So, he may be available. You interested?

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