Tim Tebow charges $160.00 per autograph

bonedawg

@mr.-t said:
Whiners! I suppose he is not allowed to make money in th NFL either.
Who pays for autographs anyways?

I think it is great that a young man of his caliber is willing to stand up for good morals. It takes courage today to stand against political correctness.

Ok, I'll bite. What political correctness is Tebow so courageously standing up to here?

Mr. T

@bonedawg said:
Ok, I'll bite. What political correctness is Tebow so courageously standing up to here?

Anti-Abortion Ad

The Gipper

@junkyard-dawg said:
Too funny. Maybe he should've gave free autographs? Oh wait, then the same ones deriding his religion and bitching now would be calling him "weak" and bitching about giving the autographs away. He can't win.
FWIW, we're still Capitalist to our core in America. There is a demand for Tim Tebow autographs obviously, and Tim has a supply. For a price. I love it. I'd pay him $200 for one just on principle and because it pisses all the nonthinking leftists off.

What a stupid remark. What does this have to do with the left/right idiocy?

I personally think if he wants to charge $160.00 for an autograph, he has every right to do so. If people are so stupid as to pay that for it, they should be deprived of their money. You apparently are one of those fools that should be deprived of your money

I don't see that making money where you can is counter to "fundamentalist" religion principles.

I am a Democrat. Does that in your view make me a leftist? If so, then I guess you think that Jefferson, Jackson, Wilson, Roosevelt etc. etc. are leftists.

As such, I am all for freedom of religion, and for allowing Tebow to practice his religious beliefs, even if they are not the same as I would adopt. Is it a travesty that so many people take of advantage of others to vastly profit off others who think giving money to preachers is going to buy them salvation? Yea, its a travesty. But its a travesty of their own making, and I have no sympathy if these types want to give their money to so many "phony" preachers.

(And by the way, I believe that only about 1 in 100 are probably "phony" preachers. I know many preachers. All of them hard working, sincere people who believe in what they are doing. Its just that there are enough charlatans out there to cause concern).

bonedawg

@mr.-t said:
Anti-Abortion Ad

He shares that belief with millions of other Americans, not really stepping out on a ledge there. Tim Tebow throws a football for a living, let him keep his opinion of how women should handle their pregnancies to himself.

Now if he puts Ezekiel 23:19-20 on his eyewear in the future. I will become a Tebow supporter.

ballpeen

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Happy birthday Peen.

Thanks

The Gipper

@bonedawg said:
He shares that belief with millions of other Americans, not really stepping out on a ledge there. Tim Tebow throws a football for a living, let him keep his opinion of how women should handle their pregnancies to himself.
Now if he puts Ezekiel 23:19-20 on his eyewear in the future. I will become a Tebow supporter.

I prefer the passage in Ezekial 25:17.

bonedawg

@the-gipper said:
I prefer the passage in Ezekial 25:17.

DOES TEBOW LOOK LIKE A BITCH?????

Pumpkin Eater

Matthew 19:24

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

Ephesians 5:3

"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people."

Looks like Teabag better get with the program. Who is he to say one sin is worse than another? Looks like Teabag is selectively religious. Greed ($160.00 for an autograph) is certainly a sin.

The Gipper

@pumpkin-eater said:
Matthew 19:24
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

Ephesians 5:3

"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people."

Looks like Teabag better get with the program. Who is he to say one sin is worse than another? Looks like Teabag is selectively religious. Greed ($160.00 for an autograph) is certainly a sin.

Well, If you take the Seven Deadly Sins: Wrath, Avarice, Sloth, Pride, Lust, Envy, Gluttony I would probably have to admit that I am guilty on all counts:

Wrath: You should hear me when things are going badly for the Browns. Wrath indeed. My family has to leave the house!

Avarice: I admit it. I would really, really like to win the Lottery

Sloth: You can tell that by the fact that I am on here playing with this tomfoolery instead of doing my work.

Pride: I admittedly have a bit of an arrogant streak in me. Just look at my responses to my trivia and surveys.

Lust: What can I say, my favorite thread on here is the "Hot Cheerleader" thread!

Envy: This may be my least guilty sin. I don't envy you all anything except your sports championships, your money, your hot girlfriends, etc.

Gluttony: Having an office right next door to a McDonald's doesn't help me in this regard. I gotta start hitting the bricks with Spring coming on.

So, there is it for me. Don't tell me that anyone of you isn't just as guilty!

miktoxic

@junkyard-dawg said:
Too funny. Maybe he should've gave free autographs? Oh wait, then the same ones deriding his religion and bitching now would be calling him "weak" and bitching about giving the autographs away. He can't win.
FWIW, we're still Capitalist to our core in America. There is a demand for Tim Tebow autographs obviously, and Tim has a supply. For a price. I love it. I'd pay him $200 for one just on principle and because it pisses all the nonthinking leftists off.

wow. how can one person seem so smart about the game of football that we are really here to discuss and then just disappear when it comes to reality. religion and politics are a no-win argument to have anytime, anywhere. wars are still being fought over stupid shit like this and religion has caused more deaths on earth than any other factor though time. hey believe in what you want to believe in just shut your xxxxin mouth about it when you're around me. some people go through life very nicely by the code of 'doing the right thing' and trat those like you'd want to be treated.' but who is tebow bitch tio get on national tv and discuss what is really a WOMEN'S issue. the fat old white xxxxing white men in this country who have ruled too long have to stick there shriveling little dicks into everything.

i hope massaquoi starts wearing black tape under his eyes preaching the koran! want to see an uproar? the sec would've shut that shit down real quick if their poster boy was a muslim. guarantee that!!!!

i'd pay him $200 to go away, for good.

Pumpkin Eater

@the-gipper said:
Well, If you take the Seven Deadly Sins: Wrath, Avarice, Sloth, Pride, Lust, Envy, Gluttony I would probably have to admit that I am guilty on all counts:
Wrath: You should hear me when things are going badly for the Browns. Wrath indeed. My family has to leave the house!

Avarice: I admit it. I would really, really like to win the Lottery

Sloth: You can tell that by the fact that I am on here playing with this tomfoolery instead of doing my work.

Pride: I admittedly have a bit of an arrogant streak in me. Just look at my responses to my trivia and surveys.

Lust: What can I say, my favorite thread on here is the "Hot Cheerleader" thread!

Envy: This may be my least guilty sin. I don't envy you all anything except your sports championships, your money, your hot girlfriends, etc.

Gluttony: Having an office right next door to a McDonald's doesn't help me in this regard. I gotta start hitting the bricks with Spring coming on.

So, there is it for me. Don't tell me that anyone of you isn't just as guilty!

I'm not saying I'm not. But then again I don't make righteous TV commercials and advertise my faith with bible passages on game day.

dencyguy

Wait, that was an anti abortion ad? Man, I completely misread the thing; I thought it was a stark warning about what might happen if you have the kid...he might grow up to be Tim Tebow.

Besides, if he really wants to make an anti-abortion ad, he should make an ad calling for overturning Roe v. Wade or something. "Just think about it" isn't just nonsensical (I don't know anyone who's ever had an abortion, but I would imagine they did think about it for at least a couple of minutes), it's milquetoast. Take a stand, man!

Dennis

bonedawg

@dencyguy said:
Wait, that was an anti abortion ad? Man, I completely misread the thing; I thought it was a stark warning about what might happen if you have the kid...he might grow up to be Tim Tebow.
Besides, if he really wants to make an anti-abortion ad, he should make an ad calling for overturning Roe v. Wade or something. "Just think about it" isn't just nonsensical (I don't know anyone who's ever had an abortion, but I would imagine they did think about it for at least a couple of minutes), it's milquetoast. Take a stand, man!

Dennis

I have a feeling Tebow is going to get aborted from the NFL in a few years anyway.

Dawgs of Hell

@bonedawg said:

DOES TEBOW LOOK LIKE A BITCH?????

only in his gay commercial, glad to see he is making a few bucks since he wont be a fist day pick.

Trollin4true

Bunch of bs if you ask me. Wonder how he pans out.

miktoxic

@junkyard-dawg said:
partying it up in titty bars with his Pastor while preaching morality.

did you grow up in Sandusky too? lol.

hey i don't hate the kid. in fact i find it hard to hate anyone. i think alot of the dislike going his way is from his public display of his faith via the football field. i don't want to read the 'john' and 'ezekiel' references everytime they show a closeup of some frankenstein looking dolt on the sidelines.especially when i'm out with the boys having some cold ones at the local dive, my girlfriend makes me feel guilty enough about being out, now i gotta stare down a bible verse? give me a break!

noone can answer my question that if a muslim or islamic player decided to do the same and referenced some point in their holy book that might be offensive to the christians in america, don't you think the next day the ncaa would have come in and stopped all the horeshit?

and if he does make it the nfl, do you think they will allow it?

Pumpkin Eater

@junkyard-dawg said:
I have no use for either Roosevelt, especially leftist posterboy FDR. That said, the Democrat Party and Liberalism in Jefferson and Jacksons eras is different then the "Liberalism" being promoted today. What they believed in and lived by would be considered "Rightist" by modern standards and there is zero doubt they would oppose the "We are the world" leftwing bullshit propagated today.

Wow... First time I've ever heard someone say something bad about Teddy Roosevelt. You should have at least ONE use for him, he created the worlds first NATIONAL PARK in Yellowstone and the national parks system. That alone is enough to put him in our top ten presidents.

The Gipper

@junkyard-dawg said:
He is a Pro-Life Christian, is he not? Yet i'm sure people just hate the kid "for whatever reasons." Please. It is because of what he believes
I wouldn't call myself a fool, more as someone who would spend the money for my own amusement and joy, because it angers people he's charging money for an autograph and the anger that would be shown towards those paying, despite it being their hard earned money they make the choice to spend.

No, by your own admission that makes you a leftist.

I have no use for either Roosevelt, especially leftist posterboy FDR. That said, the Democrat Party and Liberalism in Jefferson and Jacksons eras is different then the "Liberalism" being promoted today. What they believed in and lived by would be considered "Rightist" by modern standards and there is zero doubt they would oppose the "We are the world" leftwing bullshit propagated today.

Take a look around the thread. Your views on freedom of religion aren't shared by our fellow board members. FWIW, I am not a Christian, I am however Anti-Hypocrisy, of which there is PLENTY of in this country. I'm not however so sensitive a 21 year old publically professing his faith is offensive to me personally. By all appearances he's not out there bashing anyone, or partying it up in titty bars with his Pastor while preaching morality. He's just some guy, nearly aborted who for his own reasons is appreciative to his chosen deity for being given life and able to use his abilities to further himself.

I don't think we are all that far apart in our views, except for the fact that you apparently view anyone who disagrees with you somewhat as "leftist". I don't think you know what a true leftist is. By original definition as you perceive under Jefferson and Jackson, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush would be far to the left leftists. They would, trust me. Perhaps then, if you believe in their principles, then you, too, are a leftist.

Also, you have no freaking clue what my views on religion are.

All I have said is that the PSA that Tebow has made is in actuality the promotion of the classic "pro-choice" viewpoint. It really is. In it, he and his mother say: "Look, it was advised that having TT could have represented a serious danger to his mother, and that having an abortion may be advisable to save your own life. Mom decided NOT to take that advice, she decided to take the risk, and she had the child that grew up to become Tim Tebow, Heisman Trophy winner....so please all of you out there, please consider NOT having an abortion. Make the choice to have the child, like I made my choice to have my child, TT."

You see how this is pro-choice? (probably 99% of "pro-choice" people would advocate making the choice to have your child)

The opposite view would be a directive to Mrs. Tebow, by someone...I don't know who, a government official perhaps... A church person perhaps ...that "Mrs. Tebow, you are pregnant, you have no choice but to have this child. The decision is not yours, it is ours, and we dictate that you have this child, notwithstanding the risk to yourself or to the child. The law requires you to bear this child".

You do see the difference, and you see why Tebow made a pro-choice PSA?

(also, I personally don't care if you give Tim Tebow your money for his autograph. And I don't care if he makes money on his autograph. I personally wouldn't spend that kind of money for Tim Tebow, or Troy Smith, or Brady Quinn, or just about anyone for their autograph. Again, I hope I made myself clear on that)

Mr. T

So is TT a football player or a politician?

Who cares what his beliefs are when it comes to playing football, so many make rediculous accusations over one little PSA during the SB.

If we get him I would be fine with it. But I can project the topics of discussion on this board, and they wouldn't be about his ability to perform the task at QB.

But one thing TT does have going for him is that he seems to have better morals than Big Gay from Pittsburgh. And he is one tough football player.

miktoxic

@mr.-t said:
So is TT a football player or a politician?
Who cares what his beliefs are when it comes to playing football

oh he's a politician as well as a football player. you don't think the religious right have him in their sights. dude: he could be a minister for all i care just don't wear your holy collar as part of your uniform (you know black tape). that doesn't bother anyone? if someone put kill whitey or i hate blacks underneath their eyes you'd flip out! can't you see that what he does is offensive to some? i guess as long as it isn't your toes being stepped on it's alright. pleez.