Delhomme signs with the Browns
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Jake Delhomme - the move that saved the franchise.
....pppfffft, BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Same old stains, some things will never change.
Regards
... an'at
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Steeler SChuck said:
Jake Delhomme - the move that saved the franchise.....pppfffft, BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Same old stains, some things will never change.
Regards
... an'at
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we just took him off the market before y'all could get him. you'll find there isn't much available when bens chokin bubba chicken.
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Realistically, we aren't going to the Super Bowl the next two years, so what is the purpose of adding a 35 yr old immobile interception machine to the roster for 7M per? I'd rather see what Wallace, Quinn or even Ratliff could do. It's not like Delhomme is coming here to be a backup, he stated that he wants to start. If he wanted to be a backup the Saints wanted him and they are a playoff team.
Realistically, we aren't going to the Super Bowl the next two years, so what is the purpose of adding a 35 yr old immobile interception machine to the roster for 7M per? I'd rather see what Wallace, Quinn or even Ratliff could do. It's not like Delhomme is coming here to be a backup, he stated that he wants to start. If he wanted to be a backup the Saints wanted him and they are a playoff team.
If he starts...he still have to get past Wallace...
The purpose?? The purpose of any game...to get some wins. Part of building for the future is to win in the present. You can't keep losing and then all of a sudden turn on a switch. It usually takes a culture of winning to build a championship team. You don't usually go from crap to Super Bowl....you take steps.
You can forget Quinn...he's out. If we had wanted to play him and give him more of a chance, we wouldn't have brought in 2 qbs. We didn't bring in both Jake and Wallace to compete for anything but the #1 and #2 positions. We weren't going to move Quinn to 3rd on the list.
Third QB at this point is going to be Ratliff or some drafted qb...and i doubt it is going to be a high pick. Who knows....maybe Holmgren like Ratliff as well.
It's known that MH likes Wallace....if Wallace turns in to the starter...he might have 7-8 years left in him....we might not even be thinking QB at this point. The addition of Jake, be he the starter or #2 could take any further qb consideration out 2 years when Jakes contract runs it's course.
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Realistically, we aren't going to the Super Bowl the next two years, so what is the purpose of adding a 35 yr old immobile interception machine to the roster for 7M per? I'd rather see what Wallace, Quinn or even Ratliff could do. It's not like Delhomme is coming here to be a backup, he stated that he wants to start. If he wanted to be a backup the Saints wanted him and they are a playoff team.
Realistically, we aren't going to the Super Bowl the next two years, so what is the purpose of adding a 35 yr old immobile interception machine to the roster for 7M per?
to help teach dan lefevour.
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to help teach dan lefevour.
That could be, but you could really insert any name there.
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This team just continues to go backwards with signings like this.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4992744
I know alot of you hate, but if Holmgren thinks he can play I trust his opinion on the matter. I don't see how anyone can disagree our QB situation looks alot better than it did a week ago.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4992744
I know alot of you hate, but if Holmgren thinks he can play I trust his opinion on the matter. I don't see how anyone can disagree our QB situation looks alot better than it did a week ago.
I'm not excited about Delhomme. I'm hopeful that Holmgren will turn this team around.....I just hope he has a plan in place, and is not just making a lot of moves just for the sake of changing faces. While I really lost any hope for DA ever coming around somewhere in the middle of last season, I would probably have kept him over Delhomme. I might just be ignorant of Delhomme's ability, since it seems there are a lot of Carolina fans who still love him, but from what I've seen lately, well....I'm not impressed. If we draft a qb...a good one... then I guess it doesn't matter. Delhomme could be a big help to a rookie qb, I guess. I'm starting to wonder why Holmgren didn't even consider Troy Smith....not a big fan of his, but why not? There is some ability there, and you could say that he's never had a fair shot.
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This is a great move. Get Delhomme. Trade Quinn, draft QB. Quinn will be gone, and soon. I see us drafting a QB. Delhomme will start this year. I can feel the pain of the Quinn lovers. Don't worry. Eat chocolate. I have read that it helps when you break up.
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Realistically, we aren't going to the Super Bowl the next two years, so what is the purpose of adding a 35 yr old immobile interception machine to the roster for 7M per? I'd rather see what Wallace, Quinn or even Ratliff could do. It's not like Delhomme is coming here to be a backup, he stated that he wants to start. If he wanted to be a backup the Saints wanted him and they are a playoff team.
If he starts...he still have to get past Wallace...
The purpose?? The purpose of any game...to get some wins. Part of building for the future is to win in the present. You can't keep losing and then all of a sudden turn on a switch. It usually takes a culture of winning to build a championship team. You don't usually go from crap to Super Bowl....you take steps.
You can forget Quinn...he's out. If we had wanted to play him and give him more of a chance, we wouldn't have brought in 2 qbs. We didn't bring in both Jake and Wallace to compete for anything but the #1 and #2 positions. We weren't going to move Quinn to 3rd on the list.
Third QB at this point is going to be Ratliff or some drafted qb...and i doubt it is going to be a high pick. Who knows....maybe Holmgren like Ratliff as well.
It's known that MH likes Wallace....if Wallace turns in to the starter...he might have 7-8 years left in him....we might not even be thinking QB at this point. The addition of Jake, be he the starter or #2 could take any further qb consideration out 2 years when Jakes contract runs it's course.
Great point about building a winning culture but I don't see how Delhomme helps with that. I watch a lot of football games and the guy was flat out AWFUL last year on a team that had some talent. Cutting him now says that Carolina thinks they made a big mistake giving him a contract extension last April with 20M in guaranteed money. JD is like a statue back there, no mobility. He has a big arm but not terribly accurate. Remind you guys of anyone? (Hint: wore a 3)
We are a young rebuilding team. Not a team that is one veteran QB away from a big playoff run. If JD was coming in to mentor a young qb it would make more sense. He wants to start, if he doesn't start will he be a problem?
The purpose?? The purpose of any game...to get some wins. Part of building for the future is to win in the present. You can't keep losing and then all of a sudden turn on a switch. It usually takes a culture of winning to build a championship team. You don't usually go from crap to Super Bowl....you take steps.
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to help teach dan lefevour.
That could be, but you could really insert any name there.
That could be, but you could really insert any name there.
to help teach mickey rooney
to help teach reese witherspoon
to help teach the jonas brothers
once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy -
As much as i like the thought of Quinn being our franchise Qb it is time for the organization and the fans to realize he doesn't have that ability. I was happy when we traded up for him and it was a great story but sometimes you just have to admit your first round mistakes and move on. Delhomme by all means isn't the answer as a franchise Qb but he is a serviceable one until our franchise(savior) QB is found.
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Jake Delhomme - the move that saved the franchise.
....pppfffft, BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Same old stains, some things will never change.
Regards
... an'at
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Steeler SChuck said:
Jake Delhomme - the move that saved the franchise.....pppfffft, BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Same old stains, some things will never change.
Regards
... an'at
.
You're probably right, maybe we should be looking for someone that likes to sexually assault 20 yr old women.
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This pick up is not that bad, we didnt lose a draft pick to get him, and he has proven he can win some games. JD is not the long term answer of course but with a change of scenery I believe he will be pretty good. JD will have some weapons this year, so I think he will do fine. My Question is who the hell is going to start, I thought we werte not having a compititon this year. Also I Cant wait to see Waton and Moore on the field at the same time.
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Well, I am certainly not leaping up and down by our latest QB addition, he is just a older Slightly better version of DA, and Wallace is just a 7 year perennial Back Up at best, if Wallace was anything more than that the magic that Holmgren supposedly draws out of QB's would have had some teams chasing his Wallaces signature over the last few years, but all he has been is the quiet reliable Backup in Seattle not even pushing Hassleback to start. So all I can see from our QB moves so far is an improvement from Poor to mediocre at best.
My thoughts towards this draft were getting tht solid DB/S to sort our secondary, but now I am leaning towards hoping they are going to use or # 7 to trade down and pick up McCoy QB from Texas.
and the sooner we let BQ get out the door the better for both us and him,I still see him proving himself better than we have seen in a year or two, but hopefully by then we will have our own decent QB and not give a toss, so it soon going to be time to start bitching about our new QB controversies, question being which side are the DA and BQ fans going to go with this time. the joys of being a Browns fan.
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Jake will start next year and our new rookie QB will be learning from him and Wallace(A vet with a history of winning and one schooled in Holmgrens offense)
Depth chart at QB:
1. Jake Delhomme
2. Seneca Wallace
3. Rookie QB(My hopes are Dan LeFevour)
JMO of course.
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Zombo said:
I love it!Zombo
Glad you do Z, I don't. We're not the Vikings and Farve. The thing I like= we didn't have to give up a first rounder like we would have had to get McNabb. Obviously not the long term answer, so is he here to mentor Quinn, or start while we enter the annual draft crapshoot for the real deal?
Obviously not the long term answer, so is he here to mentor Quinn, or start while we enter the annual draft crapshoot for the real deal?
I wondered the same thing. The one thing he does do is eliminate the Quinn vs. DA nonsense and any lockerroom allegiances that may have caused a distraction.
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Whats with peoples infatuation with Quinn. What has the guy done?... I mean honestly. Phil Savage really screwed the pooch on that one. Theres a reason why he fell in the draft. Mike Holmgren is a QB guy and he obviously isnt impressed with Quinn.
Im not estatic about the signing either, but at least Delhomme has done some things.
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Chickenwang said:
Quinn is still the best QB on this team...Quinn fag who left in the Brady's Ladies exodus returns to defend his champion.
Quinn fag who left in the Brady's Ladies exodus returns to defend his champion.
It warms the heart to see the tag-line that got me suspended from this board prior to the great exodus getting used by other fans.
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to help teach mickey rooney
to help teach reese witherspoon
to help teach the jonas brothers
The teacher not the students my friend.
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2010 NFL Draft: Cleveland Browns Will Have a New Franchise QB Starting in 2011
by Daniel Wolf Written on March 14, 2010
Who will be the Browns' franchise QB?
Tim Tebow Colt McCoy Sam Bradford Tony Pike Jarrett Brown Dan LeFevour John Skelton Jevan Snead Sean Canfield Zac Robinson vote to see results New Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren was brought into the organization to not only help a team that has been hurting the past decade, but to find the team a franchise quarterback they have lacked since the memories of Bernie Kosar.
Newly acquired quarterback, Jake Delhomme, is not the new franchise quarterback, but according to the $7 million salary he will receive for the 2010 season, he will be the starter come opening day of the regular season.
Former franchise quarterback Brady Quinn, may or may not fit into Holmgren's plan and is easily trade bait now with not only the acquisition of Delhomme, but with the addition of Holmgren's former backup quarterback while he was in Seattle in Seneca Wallace.
So to recap, there will probably be a 99 percent chance that Delhomme starts in 2010, Wallace is his backup and Quinn will most likely be a backup (or competing for a starting job) while wearing different teams colors.
This leaves a hole in the area of who will be the future franchise quarterback for the Browns.
That is what the 2010 NFL Draft is for.
There is a slim chance that the Browns could make a move up in the first round if Holmgren likes Sam Bradford and the both Rams pass on him with the No. 1 overall pick and No. 4 overall picks respectively.
The cost for the Browns to trade up into the No. 5 slot with the Chiefs would only be a third round pick, and the Browns have two of those right now.
It may be doubtful that Holmgren will use the first round pick on a quarterback since there are glaring holes in the secondary with openings in the starting positions at both cornerback and safety, but the second or later may be where a quarterback is chosen.
The Browns currently hold eight draft picks between Nos. 39 and 162 (second through fifth rounds) and this is were Holmgren will most likely find the future franchise quarterback of the Browns.
With many quarterback names who will be available throughout those picks, Holmgren will have a good selection of players who will be the Browns' third-string quarterback in 2010, but then have his chance to be the starter when the 2011 regular season rolls in.
Whether it's Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, Jarrett Brown, John Skelton, Jevan Snead, Sean Canfield, Zac Robinson, or another to be named later quarterback from the draft, one of these men will be the future of the organization.
Delhomme was obviously brought in to not only start, but to mentor one of the names listed above since his salary is that of an NFL starting quarterback and look for a full year of development to prepare the future franchise quarterback of the Browns for the 2011 season and beyond.
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