Holmgren better win at least 6 games
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Holmgren has no roots to cleveland. He is going to get his big money whether he wins 5 or 15 games. No incentive. He was looking for one more big payday before retiring. Thank you cleveland.
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i think he's basically cleaning house. i like all the moves except the wimbley trade. i think we will win 5 games. yes he's putting together the team but ultimately he's not a coach or player so the blame can't rest on his shoulders if these guys don't perform.
i think he's basically cleaning house. i like all the moves except the wimbley trade. i think we will win 5 games. yes he's putting together the team but ultimately he's not a coach or player so the blame can't rest on his shoulders if these guys don't perform.
yes it 100% can
he didnt NEED to bring those players in but he wanted to
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or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
They haven't played a game people. WTF. Calm down Sally.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
They haven't played a game people. WTF. Calm down Sally.
They haven't played a game people. WTF. Calm down Sally.
and your point is? oh there wasnt one? i see
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They haven't played a game people. WTF. Calm down Sally.
and your point is? oh there wasnt one? i see
and your point is? oh there wasnt one? i see
You whining and jumping to conclusions. Calm down and let's see what comes out of the draft. Damn.
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It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
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It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
Most football fans know little about football.All ravens are crows but not all crows are ravens. -
It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
Most football fans know little about football. -
or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
LOL...say what???....go root for the Broncos man.
Have fun.
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Wait how can you say the fans don't know much about football
isn't it fair to say the Browns organization the last 11 years knows little about football..
That's it i am becoming a sacramento monarchs fan
Wait how can you say the fans don't know much about football
isn't it fair to say the Browns organization the last 11 years knows little about football..
That's it i am becoming a sacramento monarchs fan
Later
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Mangini was still the Coach the last time I checked...... Holmgren is shaping the franchise like Jerry Jones..... but the Coach still is getting his input and shaping who he wants also.......
Mangini deserves a LOT of the credit for salvaging a badly overrated team and getting discipline in along with using dregs to fill out a roster last year
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It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
Most football fans know little about football.Most football fans know little about football.
I love football I always liked the homerun.
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If you havn't noticed 2 of the guys at the top opened an account on the same day. It's obvious the first few post are all trolls. It might even be DA trying to stick it back to the fans.
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It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
Ecspecially athensbucks. I swear we all get a little dumber everytime we read one of his posts. What a tard. Wimbley a top ten backer? im still laughing at that one. If Benard continues to show the progress he showed last year then wimbley more than likely wouldnt even be good enough to start for this team. Holmgren making bad signings? Who was he suppose to go out and sign in this weak free agent class? Fujita and Watson were excellent upgrades without having to break the bank. Alienating Cribbs and Jackson? Last i checked they more than took care of him and signed a great deal that made him happy and locked him up for three years. Jackson, who cares? I like DQ he is a decent inside linebacker but nothing special, closer to walli rainer than the next ray lewis. HE was tagged for about what he is worth. A Second round pick. I would be stoked to get that this year in this draft instead of resigning Jackson. Jackson is adequate but we definately could upgrade at his positon.
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It's really wild how little some people on this board know about football.
Ecspecially athensbucks. I swear we all get a little dumber everytime we read one of his posts. What a tard. Wimbley a top ten backer? im still laughing at that one. If Benard continues to show the progress he showed last year then wimbley more than likely wouldnt even be good enough to start for this team. Holmgren making bad signings? Who was he suppose to go out and sign in this weak free agent class? Fujita and Watson were excellent upgrades without having to break the bank. Alienating Cribbs and Jackson? Last i checked they more than took care of him and signed a great deal that made him happy and locked him up for three years. Jackson, who cares? I like DQ he is a decent inside linebacker but nothing special, closer to walli rainer than the next ray lewis. HE was tagged for about what he is worth. A Second round pick. I would be stoked to get that this year in this draft instead of resigning Jackson. Jackson is adequate but we definately could upgrade at his positon.
Ecspecially athensbucks. I swear we all get a little dumber everytime we read one of his posts. What a tard. Wimbley a top ten backer? im still laughing at that one. If Benard continues to show the progress he showed last year then wimbley more than likely wouldnt even be good enough to start for this team. Holmgren making bad signings? Who was he suppose to go out and sign in this weak free agent class? Fujita and Watson were excellent upgrades without having to break the bank. Alienating Cribbs and Jackson? Last i checked they more than took care of him and signed a great deal that made him happy and locked him up for three years. Jackson, who cares? I like DQ he is a decent inside linebacker but nothing special, closer to walli rainer than the next ray lewis. HE was tagged for about what he is worth. A Second round pick. I would be stoked to get that this year in this draft instead of resigning Jackson. Jackson is adequate but we definately could upgrade at his positon.
Look at my last post on the third page on the Wimbley traded thread for a better laugh.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
Ecspecially athensbucks. I swear we all get a little dumber everytime we read one of his posts. What a tard. Wimbley a top ten backer? im still laughing at that one. If Benard continues to show the progress he showed last year then wimbley more than likely wouldnt even be good enough to start for this team. Holmgren making bad signings? Who was he suppose to go out and sign in this weak free agent class? Fujita and Watson were excellent upgrades without having to break the bank. Alienating Cribbs and Jackson? Last i checked they more than took care of him and signed a great deal that made him happy and locked him up for three years. Jackson, who cares? I like DQ he is a decent inside linebacker but nothing special, closer to walli rainer than the next ray lewis. HE was tagged for about what he is worth. A Second round pick. I would be stoked to get that this year in this draft instead of resigning Jackson. Jackson is adequate but we definately could upgrade at his positon.
Look at my last post on the third page on the Wimbley traded thread for a better laugh.
Look at my last post on the third page on the Wimbley traded thread for a better laugh.
dude took a troll stroll here back in December. what's up BUBBA??
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Ecspecially athensbucks. I swear we all get a little dumber everytime we read one of his posts. What a tard. Wimbley a top ten backer? im still laughing at that one. If Benard continues to show the progress he showed last year then wimbley more than likely wouldnt even be good enough to start for this team. Holmgren making bad signings? Who was he suppose to go out and sign in this weak free agent class? Fujita and Watson were excellent upgrades without having to break the bank. Alienating Cribbs and Jackson? Last i checked they more than took care of him and signed a great deal that made him happy and locked him up for three years. Jackson, who cares? I like DQ he is a decent inside linebacker but nothing special, closer to walli rainer than the next ray lewis. HE was tagged for about what he is worth. A Second round pick. I would be stoked to get that this year in this draft instead of resigning Jackson. Jackson is adequate but we definately could upgrade at his positon.
Look at my last post on the third page on the Wimbley traded thread for a better laugh.
Look at my last post on the third page on the Wimbley traded thread for a better laugh.
That was a good laugh! Thanks Kosar!
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or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
or he's gone
pointless trades, questionable signings, not making players happy (harrison, cribbs, Jackson etc)
i mean people wanted mangini gone after a 5 win year why not give MH the same reaction?
Tell ya what you can be the first in line to give the new czar an apology and you could probly blow him when he has this team in the playoff hunt in a few years bub. Like anyone gives a F&CK if any browns player is happy. MH isn't settling for mediocre so if your happy then you ain't working.
Glad we got cribbs signed and all but he was the B1TCh in that situation.
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