WIMBLEY TO OAKLAND
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I have never made a case ever for kicking off a guy for being too stupid, ever.
Athensbuck26 officially is the first one on the list.
I have never made a case ever for kicking off a guy for being too stupid, ever.
Athensbuck26 officially is the first one on the list.
Ahh come on now. That is what is fun about being a fan is debating silly stuff... What really gets my panties in a bunch is when people make up trades, signings they said they heard on the radio..
You know what athensbuck is right if we don't end up drafting well with the pick from the Raiders.. Maybe Wimbley will be a stud with better players around him
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I was expecting a a complete tear down under mangina but it never happened in the offseason like it should have, at least holmgren is doing it in the offseason but at this point i question many decisions that are being made and the quality of players being brought in and the mangina pets that are mediocre or suck being left alone..
Im slowly losing a little love for these guys but hopefully only temporarily im hoping theres a reason and a plan beyond the obvious...
I was expecting a a complete tear down under mangina but it never happened in the offseason like it should have, at least holmgren is doing it in the offseason but at this point i question many decisions that are being made and the quality of players being brought in and the mangina pets that are mediocre or suck being left alone..
Im slowly losing a little love for these guys but hopefully only temporarily im hoping theres a reason and a plan beyond the obvious...
Keep the Faith man, We are not looking any worse then we did last year. We will compete this year, a winning season would be a good start. Last years start was just terrible. We start fresh and with no Old news, just guys that want to win.
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What im really confused about is how is the Quinn trade getting more exposure than this one? I understand that Quinn carries all that hype with him, but we just lost one of our best defensive players and there is only a small paragraph in the Quinn article on ESPN on Wimbley. Hell there is no mention of it at all on the Cleveland Browns website yet...
What im really confused about is how is the Quinn trade getting more exposure than this one? I understand that Quinn carries all that hype with him, but we just lost one of our best defensive players and there is only a small paragraph in the Quinn article on ESPN on Wimbley. Hell there is no mention of it at all on the Cleveland Browns website yet...
Dude, what does that tell you?
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I have never made a case ever for kicking off a guy for being too stupid, ever.
Athensbuck26 officially is the first one on the list.
Ahh come on now. That is what is fun about being a fan is debating silly stuff... What really gets my panties in a bunch is when people make up trades, signings they said they heard on the radio..
You know what athensbuck is right if we don't end up drafting well with the pick from the Raiders.. Maybe Wimbley will be a stud with better players around him
Ahh come on now. That is what is fun about being a fan is debating silly stuff... What really gets my panties in a bunch is when people make up trades, signings they said they heard on the radio..
You know what athensbuck is right if we don't end up drafting well with the pick from the Raiders.. Maybe Wimbley will be a stud with better players around him
No dude this is way worse.
He made an argument about Wimbley's sacks not being "the only stat" after saying he was in the top 10 in sacks, so it was a bad trade. Then comes back with the argument that his sacks were the reason it was a bad trade, mind you the sack totals were wrong anyways. By far the worst series of posts I have ever seen on any board.
The only thing funnier then getting owned is saying someone else got owned, by owning themselves. Wait....
Come on that is funny shit.
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What im really confused about is how is the Quinn trade getting more exposure than this one? I understand that Quinn carries all that hype with him, but we just lost one of our best defensive players and there is only a small paragraph in the Quinn article on ESPN on Wimbley. Hell there is no mention of it at all on the Cleveland Browns website yet...
Dude, what does that tell you?
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I hate Athensbuck26. Alot. I cant stay quiet much longer. This kid is a tool.
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I hate Athensbuck26. Alot. I cant stay quiet much longer. This kid is a tool.
I hate Athensbuck26. Alot. I cant stay quiet much longer. This kid is a tool.
Sound: you gotta wonder if he's at ohio u. might make you blow your top then. just a kid who wants to start shit, if you ask me.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
Not liking this one too much....
Kind of the same but he only really had two seasons where he did what we wanted him to do: sack the QB a lot. I won't say he was a wasted draft pick but he didn't produce like we wanted him.
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Well this trade certainly came out of the blue didn't it? The writing was on the wall for Quinn and DA, but Wimbley to Oakland for a 3rd rounder? I support this trade because the Raiders franchise is so Retarded they have to wear their helmets off the field too, so we must have gotten above market value for KW. Holmgren/Heckert certainly aren't f*cking around, and if I were a Browns player not named Cribbs or Thomas, I would have my stuff packed and ready to go. I do find it interesting out of all of the holes and deficiencies in this team, the walrus and Heckert focused on QB first. Shows where their heads are at doesn't it?
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Has Wimbley been in the league long enough to retire to the Raiders? I thought you had to have a minimum of 9yrs in with 2-3 prior arrest and off-field antics prior to the Raiders accepting you?
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I was expecting a a complete tear down under mangina but it never happened in the offseason like it should have, at least holmgren is doing it in the offseason but at this point i question many decisions that are being made and the quality of players being brought in and the mangina pets that are mediocre or suck being left alone..
Im slowly losing a little love for these guys but hopefully only temporarily im hoping theres a reason and a plan beyond the obvious...
I was expecting a a complete tear down under mangina but it never happened in the offseason like it should have, at least holmgren is doing it in the offseason but at this point i question many decisions that are being made and the quality of players being brought in and the mangina pets that are mediocre or suck being left alone..
Im slowly losing a little love for these guys but hopefully only temporarily im hoping theres a reason and a plan beyond the obvious...
Not so fast Gips. You cannot replace 53 players in one offseason or Mangini would have done it last year. And it makes complete sense that Lerner probably wouldn't allow all this shake-up last year. And with the Jets guys, I honestly think EVERY one Mangini brought in last year was better than what we had the year before. Why would they want to send tham all out of town? As wierd as it sounds, those guys; and the draft picks from last year are the guys we are building around now. Stuckey, Elam, Bowens, MoMass, J. Davis, Mack, Roth, the list goes on but it definately looks like outside of Joe Thomas, this team is being purged of all of those aweful aweful decisions that Savage made. MAngini brougt in solid, consistent players. There is no reason to get rid of them. WHat you need to do is surround them with a few "stars" and this draft should provide those.
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I was expecting a a complete tear down under mangina but it never happened in the offseason like it should have, at least holmgren is doing it in the offseason but at this point i question many decisions that are being made and the quality of players being brought in and the mangina pets that are mediocre or suck being left alone..
Im slowly losing a little love for these guys but hopefully only temporarily im hoping theres a reason and a plan beyond the obvious...
Not so fast Gips. You cannot replace 53 players in one offseason or Mangini would have done it last year. And it makes complete sense that Lerner probably wouldn't allow all this shake-up last year. And with the Jets guys, I honestly think EVERY one Mangini brought in last year was better than what we had the year before. Why would they want to send tham all out of town? As wierd as it sounds, those guys; and the draft picks from last year are the guys we are building around now. Stuckey, Elam, Bowens, MoMass, J. Davis, Mack, Roth, the list goes on but it definately looks like outside of Joe Thomas, this team is being purged of all of those aweful aweful decisions that Savage made. MAngini brougt in solid, consistent players. There is no reason to get rid of them. WHat you need to do is surround them with a few "stars" and this draft should provide those.
Not so fast Gips. You cannot replace 53 players in one offseason or Mangini would have done it last year. And it makes complete sense that Lerner probably wouldn't allow all this shake-up last year. And with the Jets guys, I honestly think EVERY one Mangini brought in last year was better than what we had the year before. Why would they want to send tham all out of town? As wierd as it sounds, those guys; and the draft picks from last year are the guys we are building around now. Stuckey, Elam, Bowens, MoMass, J. Davis, Mack, Roth, the list goes on but it definately looks like outside of Joe Thomas, this team is being purged of all of those aweful aweful decisions that Savage made. MAngini brougt in solid, consistent players. There is no reason to get rid of them. WHat you need to do is surround them with a few "stars" and this draft should provide those.
great points. I'm just glad to see the sewage get swept away.
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I agree with Kosar on this one...Athens is just ignorant! He contradicts himself constantly...not just on this thread...although this time it was just extremely blatant...And Funny as hell!
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^i believe were up to 13 now
^i believe were up to 13 now
with 2 compensatory picks on the way; jones should be one, and one maybe for davis (but from what i can tell, their salaries were similar).
either way, its a load of bullets in the late rounds to package together....
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This was a great trade IMO lets break it down. First off Wimbley was horrible and a huge liability in pass coverage and he never developed another pass rushing move even when he was moved around this year blitzing from different angles. He will be a much better DE in a 4-3 where he wont be dropping in coverage and his one pass rush move wont be scrutinized as much. I think with the talent that Dline has he will excel in their scheme as a DE. He only had 1 year left on his contract so rather than letting him walk for nothing next season we got a high 3rd round pick for a guy that doesn't really fit our system pr in our plans as an OLB. With the emergence of Roth last season this doesn't hurt us as nearly as bad as most may think! That 3rd Rd pick makes our grocery list look even more enticing.
Now had we drafted Haloti like i wanted we would of never been talking about this and would have a perennial probowl DT. Damn what could have been!
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11 first round picks since 1999, 2 currently on the Browns roster. Both O-linemen (Thomas, Mack) you wonder why this team doesn't have explosive playmakers?
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^i believe were up to 13 now
with 2 compensatory picks on the way; jones should be one, and one maybe for davis (but from what i can tell, their salaries were similar).
either way, its a load of bullets in the late rounds to package together....
with 2 compensatory picks on the way; jones should be one, and one maybe for davis (but from what i can tell, their salaries were similar).
either way, its a load of bullets in the late rounds to package together....
Once again Choco you keep saying we have 2 comp picks. Until we get rewarded these picks we do not have them!!! We will not get one for Davis because we signed Eric Barton, We might get one for Jones but dont expect it!!!!!
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