New Beginning ... Browns fans reunite
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That's it!
My pants just got tighter.
LOL!! I remember last year saying how I couldn't wait for this year's draft and it's a little more than a month away. BTW... do you guys think HeckGren have a general idea of what they're going to do with the #7 pick?
LOL!! I remember last year saying how I couldn't wait for this year's draft and it's a little more than a month away. BTW... do you guys think HeckGren have a general idea of what they're going to do with the #7 pick?
They are going to get the front offices picking before us ****faced drunk the night before so we can get Stafford.
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It is a poor strategy to hold on to a player that is not contributing just because he is a high choice. We've had players that have been just the opposite- that is they contributed significantly despite being drafted low (or at all). Cribbs and Pontbriand come to mind right away.
Look at what we got for Quinn. That should tell you what his worth was to the team, and to other teams.
This is a win-win-win scenario. For the Browns, Quinn's presence was clearly a distraction for management and the coaching staff. They could not develop their talent with all the disruption caused by the fan base and media. Now they can get to their jobs. For the Broncos, they get a QB with some upside that will play behind their starter (and perhaps compete with him). For Quinn, he gets a fresh start in a good program.
Holmgren had to let hm go. We can focus on football once again. It is a good strategy.
I am not disagreeing with you, but perhaps rather than having a fire sale for our top draft picks we should get something of value for them. See the article below that seems to agree with me. And how is Jake Delhomme an upgrade to Quinn? The Panthers paid him $12M next year to NOT show up at camp and we were willing to give him another $7M on top of that to lead our team. Sorry that is not strategic, that is saying let start over, yet again.
From Yahoo.com
Let's quickly review the value given to the Cleveland Browns from the Brady Quinn(notes) experiment: They spent a first round draft pick on him, watched him play about three good games in three years, and then shipped him off to Denver in exchange for three soiled pairs of these socks.
Not good. That's the kind of thing that cripples an organization. It's the kind of thing that makes the Browns the Browns.
Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Brady Quinn was poised to be the next Bernie Kosar, or even Eric Zeier. But the quarterbacks currently on the Browns roster are Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace(notes) and Brett Ratliff(notes). Wallace will be 30 when the season starts and has never proven that he can be a reliable, consistent starter in the NFL. Starting Jake Delhomme(notes) at this point is akin to juggling gasoline-soaked dynamite sticks while standing over a campfire. Ratliff has never thrown an NFL pass.
And there's no room there for Brady Quinn?
The guy wasn't completely without promise. I don't think anyone can look at him and say, "Yes, I am 100 percent certain that Brady Quinn will never be a serviceable NFL quarterback." Maybe 75 percent, but still. He hasn't been a total washout. Given what else they have at quarterback, it's hard for me to believe that Quinn had less value to the organization than Peyton Hillis(notes) and a sixth-round pick.
Maybe the move is less about Quinn himself than it is a symbolic purge of the roster in favor of starting anew. If that's the case, it's certainly understandable, and something I'm sure Browns fans will embrace. Maybe this deal is just a lump that the Browns had to take.
But I don't believe we've heard the last of Brady Quinn. The deal is great news for him, as he'll get a shot in Josh McDaniels' talent-optional offense, where even Kyle Orton(notes) can look good for about half a season. I like his chances of success in Denver better than I like Delhomme's in Cleveland.
And there's no room there for Brady Quinn?
There was no room for Quinn. None.
i guarantee that if you went up and down the ranks of the coaching staff, you would not find one guy that would want him on the roster. There is not a coaching staff in the NFL that could pull that off in this town.
Given that, the only question is whether Holmgren maximized what he got for Quinn.
What do you think he could have got for him? The deal that Holmgren got isn't much different than what most around here speculated. Theoretically, Denver could have waited until he got released and not parted with the draft picks (but then they would have been forced to compete).
As for Quinn, he gets to make $700,000 and live in Denver. They say the summers are spectacular there.
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I'm gonna miss those days...
I just figured out Andersons problem. He throws with the wrong hand. He's writing left handed in that picture. No wonder he never knew where the hell the ball was going. If the starts throwing left handed where ever he ends up we need to watch out.
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I was hopeful about Quinn's development, but Mike Holmgren has a history of successfully developing and evaluating QBs. If he thought Quinn wasn't worth the time, then he probably wasn't.
Just because he was at one time a first round draft pick doesn't mean he still has that value today. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses and move on instead of investing more time into something that will most likely fail.
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Wish I was as optimistic. We've seen it all before. At least I won't have to hear all that Quinn/ Anderson static anymore. So there's that.
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I was hopeful about Quinn's development, but Mike Holmgren has a history of successfully developing and evaluating QBs. If he thought Quinn wasn't worth the time, then he probably wasn't.
Just because he was at one time a first round draft pick doesn't mean he still has that value today. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses and move on instead of investing more time into something that will most likely fail.
I was hopeful about Quinn's development, but Mike Holmgren has a history of successfully developing and evaluating QBs. If he thought Quinn wasn't worth the time, then he probably wasn't.
Just because he was at one time a first round draft pick doesn't mean he still has that value today. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses and move on instead of investing more time into something that will most likely fail.
Holmgren said in yesterday's press conference he didn't have a chance to fairly evaluate Quinn...but he obviously trusts his personnel like Haskell and his scouts to make that recommendation correctly for him.
i did not however, like the way he fumbled some key points, like not knowing that Delhomme's contract was for two years, or how tall Seneca Wallace and Drew Brees are specifically (he had an idea but you could tell he was bs'ing), or that Brett Favre isn't 45, the way they passed topics back and forth....
i know all those things so maybe i'm nitpicking but the jovial old man coach-speak is annoying when it's disorganized and unprepared.
as the President of the organization he still could've quickly found out the basic details on Delhomme's contract before walking into a press conference about it.
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I was hopeful about Quinn's development, but Mike Holmgren has a history of successfully developing and evaluating QBs. If he thought Quinn wasn't worth the time, then he probably wasn't.
Just because he was at one time a first round draft pick doesn't mean he still has that value today. Sometimes it's better to cut your losses and move on instead of investing more time into something that will most likely fail.
Holmgren said in yesterday's press conference he didn't have a chance to fairly evaluate Quinn...but he obviously trusts his personnel like Haskell and his scouts to make that recommendation correctly for him.
i did not however, like the way he fumbled some key points, like not knowing that Delhomme's contract was for two years, or how tall Seneca Wallace and Drew Brees are specifically (he had an idea but you could tell he was bs'ing), or that Brett Favre isn't 45, the way they passed topics back and forth....
i know all those things so maybe i'm nitpicking but the jovial old man coach-speak is annoying when it's disorganized and unprepared.
as the President of the organization he still could've quickly found out the basic details on Delhomme's contract before walking into a press conference about it.
Holmgren said in yesterday's press conference he didn't have a chance to fairly evaluate Quinn...but he obviously trusts his personnel like Haskell and his scouts to make that recommendation correctly for him.
i did not however, like the way he fumbled some key points, like not knowing that Delhomme's contract was for two years, or how tall Seneca Wallace and Drew Brees are specifically (he had an idea but you could tell he was bs'ing), or that Brett Favre isn't 45, the way they passed topics back and forth....
i know all those things so maybe i'm nitpicking but the jovial old man coach-speak is annoying when it's disorganized and unprepared.
as the President of the organization he still could've quickly found out the basic details on Delhomme's contract before walking into a press conference about it.
I think your nitpicking, that man has bigger fish to fry. He is looking at the big picture.
Edit: or he could be doing some of that on purpose before the draft. He is acting like there is a lot up in the air, but you bet your ass most of that is figured out and he doesn't want to tip his hand.
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As you know...I'm always In. I think we're headed into the right direction. A team that can kick as on the front lines and hopefully score a few.
Go Browns!
Doug
As you know...I'm always In. I think we're headed into the right direction. A team that can kick as on the front lines and hopefully score a few.
Go Browns!
Doug
As you ALL KNOW I PISSED ON THe TEAMS DirecTION sINCE 2000...............................
AND HERE i AM ALL OPTIMISTIC
I MUST BE TROLL SCROUNGE BUG WITH NO USEFUL VALUE
SEE YA'ALL AT SOME GAMES NEXT YEAR...................TOO COOL
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This is what had to happen. We have had a negative culture in C-town ever since it was clear that Couch sucked and people wanted to see someone else....and it has carried on ever since.
This is the real change....a chance that is going to produce results....I think as early as next season.
Why not 9-10 wins??
We may not get that many, but I think we at least have a chance.
It's going to be fun watching the draft as we move up and down seeking the next great Cleveland Browns players.
This is what had to happen. We have had a negative culture in C-town ever since it was clear that Couch sucked and people wanted to see someone else....and it has carried on ever since.
This is the real change....a chance that is going to produce results....I think as early as next season.
Why not 9-10 wins??
We may not get that many, but I think we at least have a chance.
It's going to be fun watching the draft as we move up and down seeking the next great Cleveland Browns players.
GREAT POST BALLPEEN, I AM READY TO DUST OFF BROWNS GEAR AND START BEING PROUD AGAIN.................DAMN WE LIVED THROUGH TOTAL STUPIDITY FOR MANY YEARS...fans included
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Zombo said:
I doubt it got very dusty with all that Steeler stuff on top of it.Zombo
You know what I have loved both teams all my football life for different reasons. I am now real happy about the last nine months is Brownstown. The Steelers are what they the best franchise in football. Piss on winning if you are stupid. Before that all the world was BROWNSTOWN........WHINING ABOUT WHO i LIKE IS STUPID................
BUT BEING A WINNER AGAIN IS SUPREME
THIS IS THE BEST PLACE THE BROWNS HAVE BEEN IN A LONG TIME
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This is what had to happen. We have had a negative culture in C-town ever since it was clear that Couch sucked and people wanted to see someone else....and it has carried on ever since.
This is the real change....a chance that is going to produce results....I think as early as next season.
Why not 9-10 wins??
We may not get that many, but I think we at least have a chance.
It's going to be fun watching the draft as we move up and down seeking the next great Cleveland Browns players.
GREAT POST BALLPEEN, I AM READY TO DUST OFF BROWNS GEAR AND START BEING PROUD AGAIN.................DAMN WE LIVED THROUGH TOTAL STUPIDITY FOR MANY YEARS...fans included
GREAT POST BALLPEEN, I AM READY TO DUST OFF BROWNS GEAR AND START BEING PROUD AGAIN.................
you've always gotta be proud dude, even in the bad years
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I have to give you bigtime credit, Rich !
You've come back to being a BROWNS fan even
before they've gone to the superbowl !
Cool.
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I have to give you bigtime credit, Rich !
You've come back to being a BROWNS fan even
before they've gone to the superbowl !
Cool.
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Im Backkkkk
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