Browns taking closer look at Tebow

choco

or hasselbeck in teh 6th?

lets not single out examples to show a trend....

htownbrown

I can see why some guys like this kid (mainly his intangibles), but I just don't like getting a kid who already has had concussion problems. Most of his mechanics and that type of thing can be fixed, but not his durability.

jojelexi

I don't think we need to waste any picks on a QB this year. It's a weak QB draft class this year. I like Clausen but do we really want another QB out of that system? Tebow will probably shock some people in the NFL community, but, I don't know if he is worth the risk. We need a NT and a secondary more than anything right now.

mopaji

I honestly think the Browns' interest in Tebow is smoke and mirrors. We pick pretty high in each round and if a team out there really wants Tebow and believes us or someone after us may grab him, we could get some pretty desperate offers. There are teams out there that are enamoured with him. I can't imagine Mangini/Holmgren are in that catagory. And neither am I. I fully expect to see us grab a guy in the 4th or 5th round that nobody is talking about. You know, one of those picks that cause Mayock to frantically sift through his charts on the air trying to figure out who this kid is. Maybe a Levi Brown or something like that. A 4 year starter with all the physical tools from a smaller school.

mopaji

@jojelexi said:
I don't think we need to waste any picks on a QB this year. It's a weak QB draft class this year. I like Clausen but do we really want another QB out of that system? Tebow will probably shock some people in the NFL community, but, I don't know if he is worth the risk. We need a NT and a secondary more than anything right now.

I almost 100% agree with you howver I like our NTs. I want to see Rogers on the end and Rubin in the middle. I think that would be ideal.

nobuo

Cleveland.com article on Holmgren & Tebow

It could be smoke and mirrors, or maybe Holmgren just likes the kid and wants him to succeed. They may want to draft him after all. It's too early to say and obviously we won't know till April, but he definitely showed he can work his guts out to become a better player in a short amount of time, and there is a lot to be said for that (see: Larry Byrd).

Tebow is obviously intelligent, has a lot of discipline and character, which are things you really can't coach. He has some talent, and played very well in Florida. I hope we do select him, honestly. The Browns need a prescence like his in the locker room, badly.

hoorta

@mopaji said:
I honestly think the Browns' interest in Tebow is smoke and mirrors. We pick pretty high in each round and if a team out there really wants Tebow and believes us or someone after us may grab him, we could get some pretty desperate offers. There are teams out there that are enamoured with him. I can't imagine Mangini/Holmgren are in that catagory. And neither am I. I fully expect to see us grab a guy in the 4th or 5th round that nobody is talking about. You know, one of those picks that cause Mayock to frantically sift through his charts on the air trying to figure out who this kid is. Maybe a Levi Brown or something like that. A 4 year starter with all the physical tools from a smaller school.

I agree- this is smoked and mirrors by the Browns- and just doing due diligence. You sure don't need to be a qb guru to take one look and knowTebow's mechanics are a total mess, and he's not very accurate either.

Chicopee John

@hoorta said:
I agree- this is smoked and mirrors by the Browns- and just doing due diligence. You sure don't need to be a qb guru to take one look and knowTebow's mechanics are a total mess, and he's not very accurate either.

Like Couch, Larry??

miktoxic

@nobuo said:
Cleveland.com article on Holmgren & Tebow
It could be smoke and mirrors, or maybe Holmgren just likes the kid and wants him to succeed. They may want to draft him after all. It's too early to say and obviously we won't know till April, but he definitely showed he can work his guts out to become a better player in a short amount of time, and there is a lot to be said for that (see: Larry Byrd).

Tebow is obviously intelligent, has a lot of discipline and character, which are things you really can't coach. He has some talent, and played very well in Florida. I hope we do select him, honestly. The Browns need a prescence like his in the locker room, badly.

who's gonna listen to a rookie in the locker room? is going to give his "i'm a winner" speech as he's bringing the vets doughnuts? for real. AND BTW check your sp. on LARRY BIRD.

nobuo

I stand corrected on the spelling. My bad.

And I never said he was going to be a leader of the team right out of the gate. I said his prescence in the locker room is needed.

ballpeen

@hoorta said:
I agree- this is smoked and mirrors by the Browns- and just doing due diligence. You sure don't need to be a qb guru to take one look and knowTebow's mechanics are a total mess, and he's not very accurate either.

He completed over 65% of his passes.....quit making stuff up.

For a smart guy you sure say some stupid stuff

BrownsFan4Evr

We could trade a twelfth round pick even up for Peyton Manning, and some of you guys would bitch about it!

DawgTracker

@nobuo said:
Cleveland.com article on Holmgren & Tebow
It could be smoke and mirrors, or maybe Holmgren just likes the kid and wants him to succeed. They may want to draft him after all. It's too early to say and obviously we won't know till April, but he definitely showed he can work his guts out to become a better player in a short amount of time, and there is a lot to be said for that (see: Larry Byrd).

Tebow is obviously intelligent, has a lot of discipline and character, which are things you really can't coach. He has some talent, and played very well in Florida. I hope we do select him, honestly. The Browns need a prescence like his in the locker room, badly.

There is no better quality than a strong will to succeed. Tebow is not ready to play in the NFL but he has the ability to do so. I won't be unhappy if we take him

keylime

@mopaji said:
I honestly think the Browns' interest in Tebow is smoke and mirrors. We pick pretty high in each round and if a team out there really wants Tebow and believes us or someone after us may grab him, we could get some pretty desperate offers. There are teams out there that are enamoured with him. I can't imagine Mangini/Holmgren are in that catagory. And neither am I. I fully expect to see us grab a guy in the 4th or 5th round that nobody is talking about. You know, one of those picks that cause Mayock to frantically sift through his charts on the air trying to figure out who this kid is. Maybe a Levi Brown or something like that. A 4 year starter with all the physical tools from a smaller school.

Well we have a lot of picks, and Tebow is gonna be a 2nd round pick, so we have the flexibility to move up or down in round two if we want/have to in order to get Tebow if he's the guy we want. I think a guy like Tebow or McCoy in round 2 would be a good risk/reward investment.

playerjdd

@keylime said:
Well we have a lot of picks, and Tebow is gonna be a 2nd round pick, so we have the flexibility to move up or down in round two if we want/have to in order to get Tebow if he's the guy we want. I think a guy like Tebow or McCoy in round 2 would be a good risk/reward investment.

I really see Tebow falling to the late 1st early 2nd. I dont see us waisting a 1st rounder on Tebow but a 2nd round is a definate possiblility.

ballpeen

@playerjdd said:
I really see Tebow falling to the late 1st early 2nd. I dont see us waisting a 1st rounder on Tebow but a 2nd round is a definate possiblility.

I agree, though I have a feeling he is going before round 2. Where does Pittsburgh draft?? I worry about them getting him...I don't want him there or have to face him twice a year.

If we decide we want him, we are going to have to take him at 7.....WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO...(had to highlight that since many consider me a Tebow homer....I am, but I am not stupid), trade down some out of #7, or trade up out of the 2nd round. A bunch of teams ahead of us are hoping like hell the kid drops...we are going to have to get to about 20 to be fairly safe....cost us our 2nd...and maybe a 3rd and a 4th....maybe two 4th's...I'd be good with that.

Riffer X

@ballpeen said:
I agree, though I have a feeling he is going before round 2. Where does Pittsburgh draft?? I worry about them getting him...I don't want him there or have to face him twice a year.
If we decide we want him, we are going to have to take him at 7.....WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO...(had to highlight that since many consider me a Tebow homer....I am, but I am not stupid), trade down some out of #7, or trade up out of the 2nd round. A bunch of teams ahead of us are hoping like hell the kid drops...we are going to have to get to about 20 to be fairly safe....cost us our 2nd...and maybe a 3rd and a 4th....maybe two 4th's...I'd be good with that.

You're out of your mind Peens. He would be a reach at our second, but I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that. I like the kid.

HaysiDawg

I've said it once I'll say it again. We've already addressed QB issues in Mike's eyes. We WILL NOT take him in the 1st. He may have value in the 2nd, but I still think Pike in the 3rd is our best bet! Berry, Hayden, Witherspoon or Curran are guys I'd like to see in the first. I've seen Rico McCoy play quite a bit at UT and wouldn't mind seeing him in the 2nd.

next2nothing

I would love if we could grab Tebow AFTER the first round. If any team drafts him in the first I think they would be wasting that first round pick. He is talented but he is still a project no matter how much he works on his throwing motion.

calfoxwc

With improved mechanics, Tebow shows 'he's a quarterback'

Florida's Tim Tebow shows marked improvement in his pro day workout, but the ultimate question remains: How will he perform in NFL action?

.Matt Hayes

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- The theatrics and circus atmosphere were long over, and the player who changed the face of college football finally was back in his element.

A man and his mission.

"Football is just a way to bring me closer to what's important for me," Tim Tebow said.

So there was Tebow, minutes after putting on a show for NFL teams during Wednesday's pro day workout at Florida, throwing a football with wheelchair-bound Alex Ross, a 17-year-old from nearby Jacksonville who was shot in the head in January and lost the use of the left side of his body.

Ross threw a football to Tebow, who caught the ball and summed up the day's events: "Let's see (them) come over here and critique that."

Yes, everyone, Timmy Terrific is taking this NFL thing serious. A little advice for the doubters: Don't bet against him.

Less than two months ago at the Senior Bowl, Tebow was criticized for his poor mechanics and looping throwing motion. He struggled to take snaps from under center and had fumbling issues the entire week of practice.

So he hired former longtime NFL assistant and quarterbacks guru Zeke Bratkowski to help him change his mechanics and throwing motion. He also spoke or worked with former NFL coaches Sam Wyche, Marc Trestman and Jon Gruden in preparation for this very day -- this very test.

After working out for a little more than 30 minutes in front of scouts -- and a handful of head coaches -- from all 32 NFL teams, we have this:

"From the Senior Bowl to now, the improvement is ridiculous," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. "I was blown away."

Or this from Panthers coach John Fox: "He had a very good workout. I saw some adjustments he made and thought he executed very well."

Nothing like a little hard work for Tebow to chase the critics away. Or has he?

The greatest player in college football history is now the most scrutinized player in NFL draft history. And wouldn't you know it, as quickly as he won over some, he had others still wondering where it all ends.

The most perplexing factor of all in the Tebow Question: No one really knows what kind of quarterback he'll be in the NFL until he's under center and the proverbial bullets are flying.

Asked if Tebow could be successful in the league, Browns president Mike Holmgren -- a guy who has coached legendary NFL stars Joe Montana, Steve Young and Brett Favre -- said, "I'm going to steer clear of that one now. I think Tim Tebow is one of those guys that you root for. If he's on your team, you have a better team. I'll leave it at that."

But minutes later, after breaking down the specifics of playing the position, Holmgren offered up this: "If you look hard enough at anybody, you can be really picky about stuff. Be careful about losing sight of the big picture and what kind of a player (Tebow) is and winner he is. There's a lot of good about this young man."