Who is the most overrated player in the NFL?
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Jamarcus Russel is just overweight and terrible. Not overrated.
And as far as Hines Ward goes all he does is take cheap shots at DB's when they are not looking ( and sometimes after the play is over.. Daven Holly comes to mind) and cry like a little girl for no reason.
Cue the pic of Wines Hard crying
Did you ever think that he creates those blocking angles with his route running? If Holly didn't have field awareness that's his problem. The art if hitting is setting up the hit. He should have been aware of where Hines was on the field. If I was out there I would be.
The art if hitting is setting up the hit.
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
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Hey Ruban...my nephew is is a surgeon at UAB who specializes in oral/maxillofacial surgery. Are you anywhere near Birmingham, Alabama??
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I wouldn't say 9 decades maybe the early years but since the late 70's early 80's the rules have tamed the game down to what it is now, which favors receivers big time.
A sh*t load of guys left the game early because of it. I remember watching an OTL's report where Mark Schlereth said they use to practice that block because it was so vicious and by doing so it would stop defenders from creeping up on the line of scrimmage. And in that same piece Mike Ditka said it was a staple back when he played and he loved it. And at the end of it both said it has no place in the NFL because of the amount of injuries sustained from it.
If you take away all of the Bull Sh*t blocks, late hits, and the holding that he seems to get away with, is he really an awesome blocking WR?
Nope.
He's overrated.
No rule ever banned that type of hit in the NFL until last year. Maybe recievers didn't use all the power the rulebook gave them, but you can't blame a guy when he does. If Hines was a promodonna recievers blocking linebackers and freesafeties would be unhreard of, but still legal. This is the first time recievers blocking linebackers was become and issue becuase it seldom happens. Whether it was 1925, 1950, 1975 or 2008 that hit was legal.
I can imagine some of Hine's hits might almost be as dangerous as a 250+ pound linebacker tackling a 200 pound receiver when they can't see it coming, but I still want to besides River who in the history of the league sustained a serious injury becuase they got blocked by a reciever.
You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play....You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do, you call legal blocks BS blocks. Reguardless of YOUR OPINION and Mark Schereth's opinion, by rule Hines and anyone else could do it up until last year. Doin't hate the player, hate the game (or rulebook)
If Ward hasn't been so successful and so good, you wouldn't be whining about it. (Insert first line of my sig here)
Sivlerback DPOY said:
but I still want to besides River who in the history of the league sustained a serious injury becuase they got blocked by a reciever.Don't know nor do I really care. But don't think for a second that rivers was the first and only.
If I bothers you that much look it up.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play....You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do, you call legal blocks BS blocks. Reguardless of YOUR OPINION and Mark Schereth's opinion, by rule Hines and anyone else could do it up until last year. Doin't hate the player, hate the game (or rulebook)If Ward hasn't been so successful and so good, you wouldn't be whining about it. (Insert first line of my sig here)
Whoa, whining hardly! I made my statement, and you have gone round in circles with half a dozen guys about how great your secret man crush is. Just because your labia's are hurt because the majority don't agree with you don't mean I'm a whiner.
First off where did I say that "You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play", I said Cheap shots.. whether they happened during the play or not.
You seem to have a habbit of putting word's in other peoples mouths.
Second this is one of the dumbest things I've heard, "You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do,"
Are you fu*kin serious? It really makes no sense?
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Jim Brown was never accused of any kind of sex offense.
He was only ever accused of taking a golf club to his own vehicle in anger. And he admitted that.
(of course, perhaps, to you, a golf club is an item of sexual desire?)
FYI: I think it was a shovel
"Prosecutors charge that Brown threatened to kill his wife during an argument, and that he broke the windows of her car with a shovel.
Police arrested Brown on June 15 after his wife, Monique Brown, called 911.
Monique Brown, 25, has recanted her original accusation, but the city attorney's domestic violence unit decided to prosecute her husband nevertheless. City attorney's officials said about two-thirds of domestic violence victims seen by the unit recant their stories.
Brown, who pleaded not guilty, has alleged that police coerced his wife to state that she was abused.
Jury selection is scheduled to continue today and opening arguments could begin Wednesday."
FYI: I think it was a shovel
"Prosecutors charge that Brown threatened to kill his wife during an argument, and that he broke the windows of her car with a shovel.
Police arrested Brown on June 15 after his wife, Monique Brown, called 911.
Monique Brown, 25, has recanted her original accusation, but the city attorney's domestic violence unit decided to prosecute her husband nevertheless. City attorney's officials said about two-thirds of domestic violence victims seen by the unit recant their stories.
Brown, who pleaded not guilty, has alleged that police coerced his wife to state that she was abused.
Jury selection is scheduled to continue today and opening arguments could begin Wednesday."
A shovel? OK. I think then perhaps it was Jack Nicholson who got in trouble for taking a 9 iron to his car.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
but I still want to besides River who in the history of the league sustained a serious injury becuase they got blocked by a reciever.Don't know nor do I really care. But don't think for a second that rivers was the first and only.
If I bothers you that much look it up.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play....You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do, you call legal blocks BS blocks. Reguardless of YOUR OPINION and Mark Schereth's opinion, by rule Hines and anyone else could do it up until last year. Doin't hate the player, hate the game (or rulebook)If Ward hasn't been so successful and so good, you wouldn't be whining about it. (Insert first line of my sig here)
Whoa, whining hardly! I made my statement, and you have gone round in circles with half a dozen guys about how great your secret man crush is. Just because your labia's are hurt because the majority don't agree with you don't mean I'm a whiner.
First off where did I say that "You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play", I said Cheap shots.. whether they happened during the play or not.
You seem to have a habbit of putting word's in other peoples mouths.
Second this is one of the dumbest things I've heard, "You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do,"
Are you fu*kin serious? It really makes no sense?
Don't know nor do I really care. But don't think for a second that rivers was the first and only.
If I bothers you that much look it up.
Whoa, whining hardly! I made my statement, and you have gone round in circles with half a dozen guys about how great your secret man crush is. Just because your labia's are hurt because the majority don't agree with you don't mean I'm a whiner.
First off where did I say that "You whine that his blocks happen late, yet they happen during the play", I said Cheap shots.. whether they happened during the play or not.
You seem to have a habbit of putting word's in other peoples mouths.
Second this is one of the dumbest things I've heard, "You whine that he holds but that wouldn't even make sense to do,"
Are you fu*kin serious? It really makes no sense?
I have looked it up an accroding to my findings it has never happened before. You don't know of anytime either. Is a hit that generates a serious injury about once every 90 years that dangerous?
"If you take away all of the Bull Sh*t blocks, late hits, and the holding that he seems to get away with, is he really an awesome blocking WR?"
Yes, you are saying Hines gets away with holds and I agree with you, that makes no sense.
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The art if hitting is setting up the hit.
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
Well I'm glad to see that when a brawl breaks out in your neck of the woods that those folks are class acts who go by "The Marquess of Queensbury Rules". But you know something... when a fight breaks out around my neck of the woods it just seems to be a "fight". Nobody seems to care how you win. Nobody asks after the fight, "Hey did you win all classy like?"....Naw, they just ask if you won the damn thing and move on. Much like NFL scores....If what he was doing was illegal he'd get flagged for it. It's just that simple. To me... It just seems smart.
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The art if hitting is setting up the hit.
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
I think your overly hate for the Steelers and their success and one of the best players in NFL history............Hines Ward
makes your view completely distorted
Ward is a football players football player...........does it all all day every game at a high level. That is a WINNER............not a cheap shot artist. Cheap shots get penalties best I can tell over the years Ward has had very few penalties which further amplifies his success
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Don't forget the "Ward Rule", put into place becuase Ward is a football player lining up at reciever, not a primodona. To bad some self-proclaimed "tough" linebackers and safetys couldn't play by the same rules every other defensive player played by the past 9 decades.xxxx heinz ward. half the league is looking to lay this guy out. i know you're supposed to have your head on a 'swivel' when the ball gets turned over because everyone is game to get hit, but to go high or low on people is dirty and cheap. payback is a bitch. mark my words, he's gonna get his and when he does THEN I'LL CHEER MY ASS OFF!!!!
xxxx heinz ward. half the league is looking to lay this guy out. i know you're supposed to have your head on a 'swivel' when the ball gets turned over because everyone is game to get hit, but to go high or low on people is dirty and cheap. payback is a bitch. mark my words, he's gonna get his and when he does THEN I'LL CHEER MY ASS OFF!!!!
yeah and that tough mofo has laid guys out for 11 years..............oboy.........he will get his..............and he won two Super Bowls and was an MVP in one...........
disgusting overrated YEAH........
i love discussing footbal with people who have no clue about football
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The art if hitting is setting up the hit.
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
i guess you haven't witnessed too many bar room brawls. if a guy throws a sucker punch on someone it's called a cheap shot. the guy has his back turned or whatever. the cheap shot artist is forever known and remembered as a punk and a pussy, at least where i'm from. some guys can't win fights without it. see: hines ward
Your not supposed to hit people in bars. Hitting people is one of the most basic things you do on a football field.
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