Browns taking closer look at Tebow
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with an idea that I want the Browns to take Chad Jones, safety, in the second round,
depending on who they get in the first....
I will be intrigued, not upset, if the Browns decide to draft Tebow in the second.
But, Pike in the 3rd, is the qb for the Browns, I think.
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with an idea that I want the Browns to take Chad Jones, safety, in the second round,
depending on who they get in the first....
I will be intrigued, not upset, if the Browns decide to draft Tebow in the second.
But, Pike in the 3rd, is the qb for the Browns, I think.
with an idea that I want the Browns to take Chad Jones, safety, in the second round,
depending on who they get in the first....
I will be intrigued, not upset, if the Browns decide to draft Tebow in the second.
But, Pike in the 3rd, is the qb for the Browns, I think.
I'm with you all the way...As long as we address a DB,OLB, or DT in the first I'll be happy. (Dez Bryant wouldn't make me upset either.)
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We could trade a twelfth round pick even up for Peyton Manning, and some of you guys would bitch about it!
We could trade a twelfth round pick even up for Peyton Manning, and some of you guys would bitch about it!
I agree, lets see the man did win a Heisman trophy. I am sure he is more than capable of playing in the NFL.
Should we roll back to the 80's and Bernie Kosar who had the greatest physique of any QB that ever played the game. Well if he had to go thru a combine today he more than likely would've never been drafted. The same goes for Joe Montana and several great QB's of the not so recent NFL history.
I love the combine for being able to gauge track stars but one thing it lacks, and that is, how well does it guage football players.
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I would love if we could grab Tebow AFTER the first round. If any team drafts him in the first I think they would be wasting that first round pick. He is talented but he is still a project no matter how much he works on his throwing motion.
I would love if we could grab Tebow AFTER the first round. If any team drafts him in the first I think they would be wasting that first round pick. He is talented but he is still a project no matter how much he works on his throwing motion.
I cannot support Tebow in the 2nd; no way no how. I'm not sure the 2nd round is where you want to start grabbing "project" guys. I fully expect to get a 10 year starter in the 2nd especially at #7. Tebow in the 4th, yeah, that's where I'll be targeting "projects". However, I'm pretty sure he won't make it out of the 2nd. Some team will reach for him and hopefully, give up a bunch to us in order to get him!
I fully anticipate a no-namer from a small school no sooner than the 4th round to work behind Delhomme. For a guy who has made some bad decisions at times, he really seems like a pro's pro that a young QB will resepect. Plus, in his presser he admitted that he will embrace any role he is asked to fill and talked up the role of a mentor. So, grab a mid to late round kid and let Jake and Seneca hold his hand for a few years.
"Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin -
We could trade a twelfth round pick even up for Peyton Manning, and some of you guys would bitch about it!
I agree, lets see the man did win a Heisman trophy. I am sure he is more than capable of playing in the NFL.
Should we roll back to the 80's and Bernie Kosar who had the greatest physique of any QB that ever played the game. Well if he had to go thru a combine today he more than likely would've never been drafted. The same goes for Joe Montana and several great QB's of the not so recent NFL history.
I love the combine for being able to gauge track stars but one thing it lacks, and that is, how well does it guage football players.
I agree, lets see the man did win a Heisman trophy. I am sure he is more than capable of playing in the NFL.
Should we roll back to the 80's and Bernie Kosar who had the greatest physique of any QB that ever played the game. Well if he had to go thru a combine today he more than likely would've never been drafted. The same goes for Joe Montana and several great QB's of the not so recent NFL history.
I love the combine for being able to gauge track stars but one thing it lacks, and that is, how well does it guage football players.
You make some good points but the game has changed so much since the 70's and 80's. Grit, Guile, and determination only gets you so far as a QB. You can lack in talent in other areas on the field but as a QB, if you don't have god-given talent to fall back on, you are going to struggle. For that reason, I don't want anything to do with him before the 4th round.
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For all of Teabag's faults, I've never heard anyone question his durability before. Considering how often he took off and ran, right through and over people, he has no issue staying healthy.
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Would you rather go to war with somebody who runs towards bullets or away from then? You can have all the tools in the world but if your not leading the fight then your comrades are laying back waiting for their leader. Look at all the big arm QB's with great mechanics that bust every year. You look at Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers etc. and there all leaders. Rivers has the weidest throwing motion if ever see, but he leads the fight and has the heart to get it done. If your number one priority in judging a QB is mechanics and arm strength then your gonna draft busts every year, if you look for leaders that will make your entire team better then you'll have alot less busts. I dont know if Tebow will have success in the NFL but his leadership, work ethic, and will to win will certainly fair better then say Jamarcus Russell
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As a Tebow hater early on I was throughly convinced he was overrated, but he has swayed my opinion in the last couple years by consistently winning in the best division in college vs the fastest defenses in college.
I just can't see us taking him early and paying huge money to stay on the sidelines and develop. He could probably start for a team with an already good offense and solid defense to bail him out, but that isn't us.
But no doubt he has talent and and the wining spirit to develop into a good NFL QB.
I just see so many more needs that this team should fill first, so spending a second rd pick on him is a waste.
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I would love if we could grab Tebow AFTER the first round. If any team drafts him in the first I think they would be wasting that first round pick. He is talented but he is still a project no matter how much he works on his throwing motion.
I cannot support Tebow in the 2nd; no way no how. I'm not sure the 2nd round is where you want to start grabbing "project" guys. I fully expect to get a 10 year starter in the 2nd especially at #7. Tebow in the 4th, yeah, that's where I'll be targeting "projects". However, I'm pretty sure he won't make it out of the 2nd. Some team will reach for him and hopefully, give up a bunch to us in order to get him!
I fully anticipate a no-namer from a small school no sooner than the 4th round to work behind Delhomme. For a guy who has made some bad decisions at times, he really seems like a pro's pro that a young QB will resepect. Plus, in his presser he admitted that he will embrace any role he is asked to fill and talked up the role of a mentor. So, grab a mid to late round kid and let Jake and Seneca hold his hand for a few years.
I cannot support Tebow in the 2nd; no way no how. I'm not sure the 2nd round is where you want to start grabbing "project" guys. I fully expect to get a 10 year starter in the 2nd especially at #7. Tebow in the 4th, yeah, that's where I'll be targeting "projects". However, I'm pretty sure he won't make it out of the 2nd. Some team will reach for him and hopefully, give up a bunch to us in order to get him!
I fully anticipate a no-namer from a small school no sooner than the 4th round to work behind Delhomme. For a guy who has made some bad decisions at times, he really seems like a pro's pro that a young QB will resepect. Plus, in his presser he admitted that he will embrace any role he is asked to fill and talked up the role of a mentor. So, grab a mid to late round kid and let Jake and Seneca hold his hand for a few years.
I really don't want us to grab him in the 2nd either but someone is going to pick him him up in that round. I really think we need to get this guy. Yes he's a "project" player, in my opinion, but all the kid did was win his whole time at Florida and in one of the toughest conferences in college football.
He is a leader, hard worker and a winner. I think this team needs more of those.
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For all of Teabag's faults, I've never heard anyone question his durability before. Considering how often he took off and ran, right through and over people, he has no issue staying healthy.
For all of Teabag's faults, I've never heard anyone question his durability before. Considering how often he took off and ran, right through and over people, he has no issue staying healthy.
Yeah, that's why he should be a LBer or a TE in the pros. The Heisman don't mean squat, Troy Smith, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Danny Wuerfful, Charlie Ward, Gino Toretta- the track record is pretty poor.
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Tebow's dad thinks son will go in top 15 picks
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 26, 2010 10:53 AM ET
The consensus now surrounding Tim Tebow's draft stock is that he won't make it out of the second round. His father, Bob Tebow, thinks he'll go a lot higher than that.
"If the Jaguars don't take him at 10, he'll be gone by 15," Bob Tebow told Sam Kouvaris of 1010XL in Jacksonville last week. (Click column "Is Tim coming here?" for full story.)
Don't assume these are simply the words of a biased father. I have heard similar rumors that members of Tebow's camp are convinced, right or wrong, he will go in the top half of the first round.
Yes, this could easily be predraft scuttlebutt aimed at getting a team to jump on Tebow. But Bob Tebow's matter of fact confidence comes from somewhere.
I've heard enough information from a separate source that makes me believe Tebow has a better chance of getting taken in the first round than the Mock Draft Mafia believes.
At the very least, clearly Tebow thinks he will be drafted that high.
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Tebow's dad thinks son will go in top 15 picks
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 26, 2010 10:53 AM ET
The consensus now surrounding Tim Tebow's draft stock is that he won't make it out of the second round. His father, Bob Tebow, thinks he'll go a lot higher than that.
"If the Jaguars don't take him at 10, he'll be gone by 15," Bob Tebow told Sam Kouvaris of 1010XL in Jacksonville last week. (Click column "Is Tim coming here?" for full story.)
Don't assume these are simply the words of a biased father. I have heard similar rumors that members of Tebow's camp are convinced, right or wrong, he will go in the top half of the first round.
Yes, this could easily be predraft scuttlebutt aimed at getting a team to jump on Tebow. But Bob Tebow's matter of fact confidence comes from somewhere.
I've heard enough information from a separate source that makes me believe Tebow has a better chance of getting taken in the first round than the Mock Draft Mafia believes.
At the very least, clearly Tebow thinks he will be drafted that high.
nmills said:
Tebow's dad thinks son will go in top 15 picksPosted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 26, 2010 10:53 AM ET
The consensus now surrounding Tim Tebow's draft stock is that he won't make it out of the second round. His father, Bob Tebow, thinks he'll go a lot higher than that.
"If the Jaguars don't take him at 10, he'll be gone by 15," Bob Tebow told Sam Kouvaris of 1010XL in Jacksonville last week. (Click column "Is Tim coming here?" for full story.)
Don't assume these are simply the words of a biased father. I have heard similar rumors that members of Tebow's camp are convinced, right or wrong, he will go in the top half of the first round.
Yes, this could easily be predraft scuttlebutt aimed at getting a team to jump on Tebow. But Bob Tebow's matter of fact confidence comes from somewhere.
I've heard enough information from a separate source that makes me believe Tebow has a better chance of getting taken in the first round than the Mock Draft Mafia believes.
At the very least, clearly Tebow thinks he will be drafted that high.
What Tebow's Dad has in head with the totally overly optimistic assessment are the following: $$$$$$$
The old man is a wishing and a hoping for a big signing bonus. It would be 10-100 times bigger if he is a Top 15 pick than if he were a 3rd rounder.
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You know Tebows father and what he thinks???
It may be wishful thinking or it could be they have some inside info.....like a team telling them they are going to take him if he is there.
Saying be gone by 15 could mean Tampa who holds that pick has told them something.
I think there are a lot of teams in the middle of the pack who are part of the smear campaign, hoping like hell he falls to them.
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