Question For Browns Fans

[The Gipper]

nmills said:

Dante Levelli, Gene Hickerson, Ozzie Newsome, Bill Willis, Lou Groza, Otto Graham, Jim Brown, Bernie Kosar, Leroy Kelly

All of these except Bernie are in the Hall of Fame, so I would not say that they were underrated.

[The Gipper]

Here is a group:

Dick Modzelewski

Vince Costello

Dub Jones

Ray Renfro

Milt Morin

Jim Houston

Dick Schafrath

John Wooten

Frank Ryan

Walter Johnson

Warren Lahr

Bernie Parrish

Erich Barnes (pronounced: E-rich)

Big Daddy Hairston

Tim Couch!

[ballpeen]

Jack Gregory

[darubes]

The famous (in name only) wide receiver duo of Jubilee Dunbar and Fair Hooker.

[miktoxic]

@d-bone said:

Only other player to rival Clay Mathews in my book.............E Rock

RIP eric! do you see berry as his second coming?

[CLEVELandMILIDH]

@the-gipper said:

All of these except Bernie are in the Hall of Fame, so I would not say that they were underrated.

Not underrated but I would say if you ask somebody thats not a browns fan or was born after the 80's they probably wouldn't no who some of these guy are. I know I wouldn't if it wasn't for fellow Browns fans. Other than Jim Brown, Kosar, maybe Newsome since he's a GM you dont hear much about the other guys unless your a Browns fan. Not everybody was alive 50 years ago to watch all these guys so it would be wise to inform other teams fans of our historic past.

[daydawg19]

Lou Rymkus

[The Gipper]

nmills said:

Not underrated but I would say if you ask somebody thats not a browns fan or was born after the 80's they probably wouldn't no who some of these guy are. I know I wouldn't if it wasn't for fellow Browns fans. Other than Jim Brown, Kosar, maybe Newsome since he's a GM you dont hear much about the other guys unless your a Browns fan. Not everybody was alive 50 years ago to watch all these guys so it would be wise to inform other teams fans of our historic past.

I would hope that you could rest assured that the audience you have on The Browns Board would know who the Hall of Famers are that played for the Browns, and that their names would be familiar to all here. If not, they all need to bone up on the team whom they are commenting upon. I didn't see all those guys when I was growing up either...well, actually, I did see them all except Willis, Lavelli, and Graham.. You get my point.

[CLEVELandMILIDH]

@the-gipper said:

I would hope that you could rest assured that the audience you have on The Browns Board would know who the Hall of Famers are that played for the Browns, and that their names would be familiar to all here. If not, they all need to bone up on the team whom they are commenting upon. I didn't see all those guys when I was growing up either...well, actually, I did see them all except Willis, Lavelli, and Graham.. You get my point.

Thats not the point, the OP said fans of other teams. Im sure fans of the Browns are aware of all of them but fans of other teams especially younger fans probably aren't as aware of some of them

[ITHIKA]

Wow nobody mentioned Eric Metcalf! He was the best player the Browns had in the early nineties! Heres a link to some youtube highlights..

[cdl15]

pepper johnson, vinny testaburger, micheal jackson, jamir miller

[Gips]

Eric turner and clay mathews stand out to me but the likes of eddie johnson the priutts, doug dieken, sherk, brennon, mack, minniefield ,dixon and kosar only name a few great players that made the frame of the unit they entered the field of play with..guys that were not so well known but were incredibly solid teammates..

[Jibz]

What was Eric Turners story? Did he die?

[Kosar_For_President]

@jibz said:

What was Eric Turners story? Did he die?

If you start the did he die shit, I will personally come over and smash your face in your keyboard.

[Kosar_For_President]

Kelly Holcomb

[miktoxic]

@jibz said:

What was Eric Turners story? Did he die?

here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Turner

one bad ass mutha!

(sorry KFP, the person obviously didn't watch the browns then)

[roach]

@riffer-x said:

Dixon and Minniefield, Mike Johnson, Greg and Mike Pruitt, Kevin Mack, Eric Metcalf, Tom Deleone, Doug Dieken, Rob Burnett and Eric Turner to name a few. Clay Mathews, too.

Riffer beat me to it. Frank Minnifield is the best corner that i've ever seen play the game (for any team).

[sisky fringo]

@roach said:

Riffer beat me to it. Frank Minnifield is the best corner that i've ever seen play the game (for any team).

to the best of my recollection Minni got burned more than Hanford did, and if you asked Top Dawg personally i bet he'd tell you the same.

but so would Frank. lol

those two pioneered the shut-down/complete corner in the NFL.

BEST. TANDEM. EVER.

(posted on youtube by FM's son Chase Minnifield, twitter @cminni13)

[mopaji]

@roach said:

Riffer beat me to it. Frank Minnifield is the best corner that i've ever seen play the game (for any team).

I have to disagree. Although Minni and Dixon were phenominal and are my favs. I hate to say it because he got a lot of attention but D. Sanders was the best cover corner I have ever seen. Revis is getting there but you just couldn't throw to that said or he would make you pay. I don't like Dieon, but he was the best. With that said, if I were building a team I would still take Minni and Dixon over Sanders. More less because I'm a homer. Plus, they were more physical.

[roach]

@mopaji said:

I have to disagree. Although Minni and Dixon were phenominal and are my favs. I hate to say it because he got a lot of attention but D. Sanders was the best cover corner I have ever seen. Revis is getting there but you just couldn't throw to that said or he would make you pay. I don't like Dieon, but he was the best. With that said, if I were building a team I would still take Minni and Dixon over Sanders. More less because I'm a homer. Plus, they were more physical.

We're talking about some great cover guys here. Other than his great cover skills, things that stick out about Frank to me are (1) He seemed to never miss a tackle. His technique and reliability were at a different level. (2) He was a student of the game. He was like an on-field coach. If a Safety missed an assignment (Sisko), he was immediately with the guy on the way back to the huddle (not to show him up, just to make sure he knew his assignments). i always expected him to coach after his playing days, but apparently that hasn't happened.