Colt McCoy to visit Browns
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
Get your facts straight,
MACK BROWN decided that there was NO WAY this kid was going to play if the doctor cleared him or not. Colt and his Dad wanted Colt to return to the game. I've seen Colt take far worse hits than that one.
This wasn't a simple stinger that was "no big deal". He basically shocked all of his brachial plexus and nerve roots with a direct hit with the crown of the helmet to the outside of the deltoid. It happened right in front of me. He couldn't grip a football and throw five yards at that point.
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
If his nfl career was his biggest concern why didnt he leave after his junior year when he would have been the 2 nd or 3 rd qb picked. no instead he came back to try to help his team win a national championship. If you wanna believe that a young man would fake an injury in a game that he had prepared his whole life to be in go right ahead. But I think your wrong.
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What's the difference between he and Drew Brees coming out? Short, not a great arm, deadly accurate, played in a shotgun spread in college, mobile in the pocket. Great college QB who really came into his own as a junior, I would love to take a chance on him in round 2.
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
First of all, stingers are a big deal. Any type of nerve damage is a "big deal", especially damage that is done that affects the spine.
Secondly, it's even more of a big deal to a QB. The stinger affects the arm of a quarterback. The quarterback's job is to throw with the aforementioned arm. If the arm is numb, there will be no more throwing.
Thirdly, and most importantly, Mack Brown wouldn't allow Colt McCoy to go in, no matter how much McCoy and McCoy's father protested. Brown knew that there was no reason to risk the health of McCoy, and wouldn't let him back in.
He didn't consult with his parents about whether or not he should play. It was more of the fact that McCoy's father saw his son take a gigantic hit in the National Championship game, lay on the turf for a bit, and then get up with his arm hanging limp at his side. If I was McCoy's father, I would have jumped onto the field and ran straight to him. I think it was more that they were looking out for their child's safety and wellbeing.
With all that said, I really hope we don't draft McCoy. I like the kid, and he could have a good NFL career, but I just don't know about him in Cleveland. I just don't like when someone is blatantly hated for unjustified reasons.
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
I take it back what I said earlier... you have know earned the title of biggest jag-off here.....
This shows me clearly you have ZERO clue to what a stinger does.... and proves that you probably never played the game.
Just another fat-azz couch potato calling the shots from the living room with no facts to back it up...
And before you try, no, I am not a Texas fan.
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All you had to do was watch his interview after that game to know that he would've done anything to play in that game.
I don't question McCoy's accuracy, leadership, mobility, or intangibles.
I question his size and arm strength.
I like him a lot but not enough to use a high second rounder on him. Maybe a mid-second if we trade up from the third.
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All you had to do was watch his interview after that game to know that he would've done anything to play in that game.
I don't question McCoy's accuracy, leadership, mobility, or intangibles.
I question his size and arm strength.
I like him a lot but not enough to use a high second rounder on him. Maybe a mid-second if we trade up from the third.
All you had to do was watch his interview after that game to know that he would've done anything to play in that game.
I don't question McCoy's accuracy, leadership, mobility, or intangibles.
I question his size and arm strength.
I like him a lot but not enough to use a high second rounder on him. Maybe a mid-second if we trade up from the third.
I'm not too worried about his arm strength. I've seen him throw some out routes that got there pretty quick. He has a quicker release than Clausen. Also, his deep ballls don't hang up there as long as Clausen's do. I think Clausen gets more attention because of his gawdy numbers that are sort of misleading thanks to Wiess's safe/yac system. Colt is a better QB and I've seen him make every throw on the field with good zip and a quick release. I would be happy with Colt in the 2nd if we can pick up another 2nd rounder. I think if Berry is gone at 7, we'll trade out of the top 10 and get Haden, Thomas, or Mays a little later in the 1st while picking up another 2nd rounder. That is, if we don't trade another player before then for a 2nd rounder.
I really think the Browns are drooling over the possibility of having a 1st, two 2nds, and three 3rds in this deep draft. I don't know how they can keep from dealing another player before draft day.
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
I take it back what I said earlier... you have know earned the title of biggest jag-off here.....
This shows me clearly you have ZERO clue to what a stinger does.... and proves that you probably never played the game.
Just another fat-azz couch potato calling the shots from the living room with no facts to back it up...
And before you try, no, I am not a Texas fan.
I take it back what I said earlier... you have know earned the title of biggest jag-off here.....
This shows me clearly you have ZERO clue to what a stinger does.... and proves that you probably never played the game.
Just another fat-azz couch potato calling the shots from the living room with no facts to back it up...
And before you try, no, I am not a Texas fan.
hah, looks like i hurt your feelings. cry it off pudge, you'll feel better in no time
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One thing that concerns me with colt is that injured shoulder.... will it be problematic in the future?
the doctor cleared him to go back in that game, and said there was nothing wrong.
basically he was a wuss and a loser that prefered to sit out the biggest game of his career, "just in case." that kind of player does not win superbowls.
the doctor cleared him to go back in that game, and said there was nothing wrong.
basically he was a wuss and a loser that prefered to sit out the biggest game of his career, "just in case." that kind of player does not win superbowls.
not to mention this is just absolutely wrong. I have no idea where you heard this (probably just your opinion being thrown up as fact.
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/ar...y----again.html
Direct quote from the guy who treated Colt saying "we couldn't clear him to do it (play)". Probably should get your shit straight before you just look like an idiot.
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excuses, excuses, he wussed out. he coulda came back in the game at some point, a stinger isn't that big a deal. hes not a winner, plain and simple, thats why he didn't come back in, cause he was afraid he could hurt it more and jepordize his future in the nfl. not to mention escaping the fact that their team was getting beat, and he wasn't playing all that fantastic, that game would have dropped his draft stock had he stayed in. the doctor wouldn't have cleared him if he was unable to throw the ball. the point of a doctor clearing a player is to tell the choaches that he can go back in and play. if he had no ability to throw the ball the doctors would have said he couldn't play.
don't forget the fact that he consulted with his parents about wether or not to play. you don't consult with your parents, if you get a stinger and can't grip the ball, about wether or not you should go back in. he used it as an excuse to get outta the rest of the game
I take it back what I said earlier... you have know earned the title of biggest jag-off here.....
This shows me clearly you have ZERO clue to what a stinger does.... and proves that you probably never played the game.
Just another fat-azz couch potato calling the shots from the living room with no facts to back it up...
And before you try, no, I am not a Texas fan.
I take it back what I said earlier... you have know earned the title of biggest jag-off here.....
This shows me clearly you have ZERO clue to what a stinger does.... and proves that you probably never played the game.
Just another fat-azz couch potato calling the shots from the living room with no facts to back it up...
And before you try, no, I am not a Texas fan.
Insert now, know is the same as no. Sorry I see alot of people doing that and just wanted to point it out.
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All you had to do was watch his interview after that game to know that he would've done anything to play in that game.
I don't question McCoy's accuracy, leadership, mobility, or intangibles.
I question his size and arm strength.
I like him a lot but not enough to use a high second rounder on him. Maybe a mid-second if we trade up from the third.
I'm not too worried about his arm strength. I've seen him throw some out routes that got there pretty quick. He has a quicker release than Clausen. Also, his deep ballls don't hang up there as long as Clausen's do. I think Clausen gets more attention because of his gawdy numbers that are sort of misleading thanks to Wiess's safe/yac system. Colt is a better QB and I've seen him make every throw on the field with good zip and a quick release. I would be happy with Colt in the 2nd if we can pick up another 2nd rounder. I think if Berry is gone at 7, we'll trade out of the top 10 and get Haden, Thomas, or Mays a little later in the 1st while picking up another 2nd rounder. That is, if we don't trade another player before then for a 2nd rounder.
I really think the Browns are drooling over the possibility of having a 1st, two 2nds, and three 3rds in this deep draft. I don't know how they can keep from dealing another player before draft day.
I'm not too worried about his arm strength. I've seen him throw some out routes that got there pretty quick. He has a quicker release than Clausen. Also, his deep ballls don't hang up there as long as Clausen's do. I think Clausen gets more attention because of his gawdy numbers that are sort of misleading thanks to Wiess's safe/yac system. Colt is a better QB and I've seen him make every throw on the field with good zip and a quick release. I would be happy with Colt in the 2nd if we can pick up another 2nd rounder. I think if Berry is gone at 7, we'll trade out of the top 10 and get Haden, Thomas, or Mays a little later in the 1st while picking up another 2nd rounder. That is, if we don't trade another player before then for a 2nd rounder.
I really think the Browns are drooling over the possibility of having a 1st, two 2nds, and three 3rds in this deep draft. I don't know how they can keep from dealing another player before draft day.
You can't beat having a ton of flexibility on draft day. I hate to overemphasize it but drafts with 12 picks can go a long way to defining a decade for a franchise.
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to add to what i've said cause I posted in a hurry, I'd agree Colt may not be NFL yet. As for Tebow and Colt though, I've learned to never rule out a player who is used to and expects winning. And like I've said before, I trust Holmgren to draft a QB. No matter who it is, i'll trust that he knows what to expect.
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but why bitch and cry about a qb, who in his biggest game, threw in the towel. and YES he did consult with his father. at that point in the game his injury was bigger than the game itself, close-ups of his family, his dad going down to the locker room etc. etc. get us a guy who's 6' 6" weighs over 230 lbs, and has a cannon for an arm. hey maybe this could be the guy: TONY PIKE! screw mccoy and tebow.
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but why bitch and cry about a qb, who in his biggest game, threw in the towel. and YES he did consult with his father. at that point in the game his injury was bigger than the game itself, close-ups of his family, his dad going down to the locker room etc. etc. get us a guy who's 6' 6" weighs over 230 lbs, and has a cannon for an arm. hey maybe this could be the guy: TONY PIKE! screw mccoy and tebow.
but why bitch and cry about a qb, who in his biggest game, threw in the towel. and YES he did consult with his father. at that point in the game his injury was bigger than the game itself, close-ups of his family, his dad going down to the locker room etc. etc. get us a guy who's 6' 6" weighs over 230 lbs, and has a cannon for an arm. hey maybe this could be the guy: TONY PIKE! screw mccoy and tebow.
WRONG.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue about Colt McCoy or what he's been able to do in his career. You obviously aren't paying attention. McCoy AND his Dad wanted him to go back in. Mack Brown said he wasn't putting him back in no matter what. There's no wussing out here. It would make no sense anyway. The kid grew up dreaming of that game. He stayed an extra year giving up millions of dollars for a chance to play in that game.
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but why bitch and cry about a qb, who in his biggest game, threw in the towel. and YES he did consult with his father. at that point in the game his injury was bigger than the game itself, close-ups of his family, his dad going down to the locker room etc. etc. get us a guy who's 6' 6" weighs over 230 lbs, and has a cannon for an arm. hey maybe this could be the guy: TONY PIKE! screw mccoy and tebow.
WRONG.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue about Colt McCoy or what he's been able to do in his career. You obviously aren't paying attention. McCoy AND his Dad wanted him to go back in. Mack Brown said he wasn't putting him back in no matter what. There's no wussing out here. It would make no sense anyway. The kid grew up dreaming of that game. He stayed an extra year giving up millions of dollars for a chance to play in that game.
WRONG.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue about Colt McCoy or what he's been able to do in his career. You obviously aren't paying attention. McCoy AND his Dad wanted him to go back in. Mack Brown said he wasn't putting him back in no matter what. There's no wussing out here. It would make no sense anyway. The kid grew up dreaming of that game. He stayed an extra year giving up millions of dollars for a chance to play in that game.
ok, youngin....prove me wrong. let's draft him with out first pick, because someone must have just smoked one of your colt mccoy doobies (light and weak), no matter what happened from your team or your :guy:' be realistic. someone who isn't hurt and criyng and would butt shovel; his way to the practice squad and is not hurt didn't. t get the little 'stinger; (boo fing hoo). stand up like a man and be a man!! no do that shot of cuervo!
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WRONG.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue about Colt McCoy or what he's been able to do in his career. You obviously aren't paying attention. McCoy AND his Dad wanted him to go back in. Mack Brown said he wasn't putting him back in no matter what. There's no wussing out here. It would make no sense anyway. The kid grew up dreaming of that game. He stayed an extra year giving up millions of dollars for a chance to play in that game.
ok, youngin....prove me wrong. let's draft him with out first pick, because someone must have just smoked one of your colt mccoy doobies (light and weak), no matter what happened from your team or your :guy:' be realistic. someone who isn't hurt and criyng and would butt shovel; his way to the practice squad and is not hurt didn't. t get the little 'stinger; (boo fing hoo). stand up like a man and be a man!! no do that shot of cuervo!
ok, youngin....prove me wrong. let's draft him with out first pick, because someone must have just smoked one of your colt mccoy doobies (light and weak), no matter what happened from your team or your :guy:' be realistic. someone who isn't hurt and criyng and would butt shovel; his way to the practice squad and is not hurt didn't. t get the little 'stinger; (boo fing hoo). stand up like a man and be a man!! no do that shot of cuervo!
I never said you should use a first round pick on him. We're talking a second or third.
He didn't get a stinger. He had a brachial plexus injury. He couldn't feel his arm or the ball. Doesn't matter what he wanted anyway. Coach wouldn't let him play.
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ok, youngin....prove me wrong. let's draft him with out first pick, because someone must have just smoked one of your colt mccoy doobies (light and weak), no matter what happened from your team or your :guy:' be realistic. someone who isn't hurt and criyng and would butt shovel; his way to the practice squad and is not hurt didn't. t get the little 'stinger; (boo fing hoo). stand up like a man and be a man!! no do that shot of cuervo!
I never said you should use a first round pick on him. We're talking a second or third.
He didn't get a stinger. He had a brachial plexus injury. He couldn't feel his arm or the ball. Doesn't matter what he wanted anyway. Coach wouldn't let him play.
I never said you should use a first round pick on him. We're talking a second or third.
He didn't get a stinger. He had a brachial plexus injury. He couldn't feel his arm or the ball. Doesn't matter what he wanted anyway. Coach wouldn't let him play.
so if we're in discussions of rookie qb's that we could pick from the second or third round.......tell me what he brings to the table that;s different that the other big cahunaas don;t?
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I never said you should use a first round pick on him. We're talking a second or third.
He didn't get a stinger. He had a brachial plexus injury. He couldn't feel his arm or the ball. Doesn't matter what he wanted anyway. Coach wouldn't let him play.
so if we're in discussions of rookie qb's that we could pick from the second or third round.......tell me what he brings to the table that;s different that the other big cahunaas don;t?
so if we're in discussions of rookie qb's that we could pick from the second or third round.......tell me what he brings to the table that;s different that the other big cahunaas don;t?
First, you're either spelling "kahunas" or "cojones" incorrectly.
Second, if Mike Holmgren looks at this kid and thinks that his intelligence, athleticism and accuracy are suited for what Mike Holmgren wants....then he'll take him. McCoy isn't the best QB in this draft. That said, he does do some things well that could translate into the WCO. He's extremely accurate on the short and medium routes. He's instinctive and intelligent. He's got good mechanics and is athletic in the pocket. He knows how to win when he doesn't have his best game. He'll step into the rush, deliver the ball and take the hit. I've seen it time and again.
Does he do this better than any of the other mid rounders? I don't know. That's for Holmgren to decide.
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