Sweet Mary Jane
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some skewed testimony imo. first off conclusive tests have never been conducted or maintained over long periods of time--these studies generally just take people at their word without any real supporting data.
maybe these guys were Tommy Chongs, or maybe there were other factors that attributed to the side affects like memory loss etc. the side effects on some OTC medications can sound pretty nuts too when read on paper in vague generalizations. people form their own perceptions when they read loose wording like in the above description.
highly addictive? maybe to addicts. you've got the gene or you don't. don't blame pot--you can plug in any substance and it will be highly addictive for an addict. this includes coffee, cigarettes, skydiving, cocaine>>>it goes on. for the regular joe? bs.
the mentionings of MJ related ER visits could just be due to society's increased tolerance of it--they are just "mentioning" it more now. it didn't say it was involved more or in their system more after testing, just that they "mention" it more now.
tell the Mayo Clinic they need to try using pot that gives the munchies if they want a fair comparison, and i guarantee it will win hands down.
no medicinal value? it's actually prescribed for asthma but you don't introduce it by smoking it...and it works. insomnia? migraines? where's the studies for those? huge wins if they do.
i quit reading after that cuz it sounded like some military industrial complex propoganda on a federal brochure. well, that and it contradicts with my own personal experience.
that said, there are ways 1000X better to imbibe MJ than smoking it.
stop smoking it and introduce it differently into the system and their entire argument falls to pieces.
EDIT: i just finished reading it and it actually got better and left some openings in favor of it. in summary don't smoke it, don't drive, operate equipment or put others in danger while under the influence, use it in moderation, and the inconclusive studies are still ongoing for users who introduce it in other ways besides smoking it. sounds about right to me.
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Wether its good for you is irrelevant (and there is plenty of arguements for and against the benefits of Marijuana)...
Should it be on the NFL banned substances list ? Definitely not.
Will the right wing NFL change it? Definitely not
So, if you want to be in the NFL you can't smoke...sucks, it's a shitty rule which promotes more alcohol use.
It isnt right but too damm bad that's the way it is.
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Wether its good for you is irrelevant (and there is plenty of arguements for and against the benefits of Marijuana)...
Should it be on the NFL banned substances list ? Definitely not.
Will the right wing NFL change it? Definitely not
So, if you want to be in the NFL you can't smoke...sucks, it's a shitty rule which promotes more alcohol use.
It isnt right but too damm bad that's the way it is.
Wether its good for you is irrelevant (and there is plenty of arguements for and against the benefits of Marijuana)...
Should it be on the NFL banned substances list ? Definitely not.
Will the right wing NFL change it? Definitely not
So, if you want to be in the NFL you can't smoke...sucks, it's a shitty rule which promotes more alcohol use.
It isn't right but too damn bad that's the way it is.
probably promotes more use of pain pills and other chemicals too. some claim it helps reduce inflammation in joints and helps them to relax. that i don't know.
the NFL can't look the other way, that would be like condoning it. these guys are role models for kids...it has to be that way for society's sake.
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Wether its good for you is irrelevant (and there is plenty of arguements for and against the benefits of Marijuana)...
Should it be on the NFL banned substances list ? Definitely not.
Will the right wing NFL change it? Definitely not
So, if you want to be in the NFL you can't smoke...sucks, it's a shitty rule which promotes more alcohol use.
It isn't right but too damn bad that's the way it is.
probably promotes more use of pain pills and other chemicals too. some claim it helps reduce inflammation in joints and helps them to relax. that i don't know.
the NFL can't look the other way, that would be like condoning it. these guys are role models for kids...it has to be that way for society's sake.
some claim it helps reduce inflamation in joints and helps them to relax. that i don't know.
I can personally attest to that, after ACL reconstruction but before I was truly mobile, a good old fasioned joint worked way better then any pain med's ( including the slow release pain relieving drip they insert into your knee)
I was actually ahead of my time frame on beginning therapy due to the reduction in swelling.. Now i'm not giving weed all that cred ( elevation and ice and pressure have more do with it) But it certainly did not hinder injury recovery time
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California Puts Legalizing Marijuana on BallotUpdated:
Richard C. Paddock
AOL News SAN FRANCISCO (March 25) -- California voters will decide in November whether to legalize personal use of marijuana and impose a tax that could raise more than $1 billion for financially struggling state and local governments.
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen announced Wednesday that an initiative known as the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010 has qualified for the ballot. Sponsors of the measure submitted 694,248 signatures, far more than the 433,971 they needed to win a place on the Nov. 2 ballot.
The initiative would allow anyone 21 or older to possess up to an ounce of marijuana and cultivate plants in an area up to 25 square feet. It also would allow local governments to regulate and tax the cultivation, distribution and sale of marijuana in their jurisdictions.
At the same time, the measure would prohibit the possession of marijuana on school grounds; outlaw providing marijuana to anyone under 21; and ban smoking marijuana in public or in front of a minor. It would not overturn the conviction of anyone who violated marijuana laws before the initiative's passage.
"It takes the cannabis industry out of the black market, out of the back alleys, and brings it into retail establishments," campaign spokeswoman Dale Sky Clare said. "We can have safer communities by controlling and taxing cannabis."
The measure is sponsored by activist Richard Lee, who contributed more than $1 million to the signature-gathering drive. Lee operates a medical marijuana dispensary and other marijuana-related businesses in Oakland. He is the founder and president of Oaksterdam University, which teaches students how to cultivate the plant and operate medical marijuana dispensaries.
The university, which is closely connected to the initiative campaign, is growing rapidly and recently moved its main campus into a 30,000-square-foot building in downtown Oakland.
California has long been in the forefront of the marijuana legalization movement. In 1996, voters approved Proposition 215, which authorized the use of marijuana for medical purposes and inspired similar measures in other states.
Since the proposition's passage, hundreds of medical marijuana dispensaries have sprung up around California. They have contributed to economic growth in some communities -- most notably downtown Oakland -- but also have posed regulatory problems in others, particularly the city of Los Angeles.
The campaign over the legalization initiative is certain to be hard-fought and costly.
No formal campaign opposition has emerged, but opponents can be expected to argue that legalizing marijuana would result in greater consumption, exposure to second-hand smoke, increased automobile and industrial accidents and reduced academic achievement.
There may also be some who argue that the initiative does not go far enough because it limits legal use to adults, doesn't free those now in jail for marijuana offenses, and could create a system of patchwork regulation by cities and counties.
Nevertheless, after decades of working to legalize marijuana, activists may finally have hit upon the right timing and approach to win over the general public. A Field Poll conducted last year found that 56 percent of Californians supported the idea of legalizing and taxing marijuana.
In part, that may be because state and local governments are desperate for cash. The state has been compelled to raise fees repeatedly at public universities, require state workers to take unpaid furloughs and begin releasing inmates from overcrowded prisons.
"There are voters across every demographic group who are not necessarily pro-pot, but they understand the present system is not working and are well aware that California could use an extra billion bucks a year," said Dan Newman, a strategist with the campaign. "The combination of the current marijuana laws not working and the disastrous fiscal situation has created a situation where many people see this as a commonplace reform."
Supporters of the measure hope to raise as much as $10 million to win passage of the measure, Newman said. The campaign in support of the initiative kicked off the first day by issuing a statement that included backing from retired law enforcement officers and a judge from conservative Orange County.
"I've been on the front lines of the drug war for three decades, and I know from experience that the current approach is simply not working," said retired Superior Court Judge James P. Gray. "Controlling marijuana with regulations similar to those currently in place for alcohol will put street drug dealers and organized crime out of business."
Marijuana would still be illegal under U.S. law, but supporters of the measure hope that the federal government would abstain from enforcing the law, as it is doing now with medical marijuana sales.
Clare, also the executive chancellor of Oaksterdam University, said the initiative would allow cities and counties to adopt a wide range of activities -- or none at all.
An agricultural county could authorize large-scale marijuana growing to produce hemp, a durable fiber that can be used in making paper, clothing or rope. "Labor unions see this as an opportunity for tens of thousands of jobs," Clare said.
Or a city such as Oakland or Berkeley could issue a permit to a bar or nightclub to serve marijuana rather than alcohol, she said. There also could be the equivalent of "dry counties" where the sale of marijuana is not permitted, although possession would still be allowed.
The campaign is drafting a range of model ordinances that local governments could adopt if the initiative is approved by voters, she said.
Clare attempted to counter expected opposition from law enforcement by pointing out that local authorities could tax marijuana to help train and equip police departments, among other expenditures.
"Right now, the profit margins are going to buy more guns for the Mexican cartels," she said. "That same margin could be paid into what matters most to Californians: education, public health and public safety."
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WHAT?!? have the dopers fund the education, public health and public safety??? how novel! do i need to pinch myself?!?
No formal campaign opposition has emerged, but opponents can be expected to argue that legalizing marijuana would result in greater consumption, exposure to second-hand smoke, increased automobile and industrial accidents and reduced academic achievement.
this type of propaganda cracks me up.
it won't create the industry--the industry is already there. the one's that would try it due to it's reformed legality that wouldn't have tried it otherwise has got to be negligible.
there isn't going to be some crazy free-for-all that will take place. it simply begins to regulate a black market that already exists. plain and simple, some people like to feel fukcered up and others don't...and those people would be smoking pot whether this proposal went through or not.
soooo many pros besides the enormous revenue stream it brings with it as the #1 cash crop. notably it effectively takes the Mexican cartel's MJ profits and transfers those profits into tangible resources the people can directly utilize.
it impacts public safety in a positive way as users don't have to cop weed from potentially shady strangers in the hood. it preserves public resources as cops focus on violence and other more serious offenses rather than wasting time citing otherwise good folks for petty and ridiculous charges, also preserving the court's time and Cali tax dollars.
and hemp? oil, bio fuels, sustainable building materials, textiles, and a multitude of other products that haven't even been thought of yet loom on the horizon.
seems to me Ron Paul's been saying this for over 30 years. marijuana prohibition CULTIVATES criminal behavior and violence, not the other way around. leave it to crisis to finally get people to open up their minds.
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Henry Ford use to make cars made out of hemp and ran on hemp oil. Hell the Decleration of Independece was writtin on Hemp paper.
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from 25% to 95% efficiency? WOW. i didn't know that.
not to mention Ford was getting about 23 mpg too...100 years ago.
don't you just love federal interference in the free market?
based upon this past week we haven't learned a damn thing either, whether seduced by the possibility of what could be or if we were just fooling ourselves thinking we could have prevented anything anyway. but i digress.
the "experts" say if all our light trucks in the US ran on diesel we could be completely free of our foreign oil dependency...and that's just light trucks. no cars, vans, bikes etc.
if we simply adapted our auto engines to hemp oil, i wonder how many American lives we could have saved in the Middle East over the past 25+ years...or how many we could still preserve now. and how many trillions of dollars we could have saved in the process.
allowance of hemp growth would create an agricultural opportunity that we can actually produce ourselves here domestically, not only adding some jobs but also bolstering our ailing economy in the process.
to think that federal law was the only thing preventing all of this from taking place...its almost criminal.
government create jobs? not likely. more like get the fuk out of the way so American ingenuity can once again pull our country up by its bootstraps...just like we've always done.
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WHAT?!? have the dopers fund the education, public health and public safety??? how novel! do i need to pinch myself?!?
No formal campaign opposition has emerged, but opponents can be expected to argue that legalizing marijuana would result in greater consumption, exposure to second-hand smoke, increased automobile and industrial accidents and reduced academic achievement.
this type of propaganda cracks me up.
it won't create the industry--the industry is already there. the one's that would try it due to it's reformed legality that wouldn't have tried it otherwise has got to be negligible.
there isn't going to be some crazy free-for-all that will take place. it simply begins to regulate a black market that already exists. plain and simple, some people like to feel fukcered up and others don't...and those people would be smoking pot whether this proposal went through or not.
soooo many pros besides the enormous revenue stream it brings with it as the #1 cash crop. notably it effectively takes the Mexican cartel's MJ profits and transfers those profits into tangible resources the people can directly utilize.
it impacts public safety in a positive way as users don't have to cop weed from potentially shady strangers in the hood. it preserves public resources as cops focus on violence and other more serious offenses rather than wasting time citing otherwise good folks for petty and ridiculous charges, also preserving the court's time and Cali tax dollars.
and hemp? oil, bio fuels, sustainable building materials, textiles, and a multitude of other products that haven't even been thought of yet loom on the horizon.
seems to me Ron Paul's been saying this for over 30 years. marijuana prohibition CULTIVATES criminal behavior and violence, not the other way around. leave it to crisis to finally get people to open up their minds.
WHAT?!? have the dopers fund the education, public health and public safety??? how novel! do i need to pinch myself?!?
this type of propaganda cracks me up.
it won't create the industry--the industry is already there. the one's that would try it due to it's reformed legality that wouldn't have tried it otherwise has got to be negligible.
there isn't going to be some crazy free-for-all that will take place. it simply begins to regulate a black market that already exists. plain and simple, some people like to feel fukcered up and others don't...and those people would be smoking pot whether this proposal went through or not.
soooo many pros besides the enormous revenue stream it brings with it as the #1 cash crop. notably it effectively takes the Mexican cartel's MJ profits and transfers those profits into tangible resources the people can directly utilize.
it impacts public safety in a positive way as users don't have to cop weed from potentially shady strangers in the hood. it preserves public resources as cops focus on violence and other more serious offenses rather than wasting time citing otherwise good folks for petty and ridiculous charges, also preserving the court's time and Cali tax dollars.
and hemp? oil, bio fuels, sustainable building materials, textiles, and a multitude of other products that haven't even been thought of yet loom on the horizon.
seems to me Ron Paul's been saying this for over 30 years. marijuana prohibition CULTIVATES criminal behavior and violence, not the other way around. leave it to crisis to finally get people to open up their minds.
If marijuana is legal the government gets the tax money as opposed violent dealers, Mexican gun cartels and other violent street gangs......On second thought, maybe it would be better if marijuana stayed on the black market.
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