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Browns talked with Rams about No. 1 pick

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  • nobuo N
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    N nobuo wrote on last edited by
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    To me, this sounds like it's just due diligence. I'd be very very surprised if we moved up to #1, but it can't hurt to discuss it with the Rams, see what they want, see what we have available and evaluate whether we want to do or it not. I appreciate their openness about it also. I think they revealed that information for the fans to say "Hey, we're doing everything we can, exploring every avenue". More props to our front office.

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    • ruban2 R
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      R ruban2 wrote on last edited by
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      Can that dude (bradford) stand up to the pounding in the nfl? I'd stay away.

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      • ATENEARS ATENEARSA Founder In Memoriam
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        ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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        I don't really want to see us take such a big chance (given our recent history of draft failure), but I can't help referring to Holmgrens decision. I have to believe if Holmgren thinks Bradford is 'the one' then who are any of us to question? He's about as expert as one can get.

        I'd rather see us win with Defense. Offense is gay.

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        • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

          I don't really want to see us take such a big chance (given our recent history of draft failure), but I can't help referring to Holmgrens decision. I have to believe if Holmgren thinks Bradford is 'the one' then who are any of us to question? He's about as expert as one can get.

          I'd rather see us win with Defense. Offense is gay.

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          kamac19K kamac19 wrote on last edited by
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          @atenears said:

          I don't really want to see us take such a big chance (given our recent history of draft failure), but I can't help referring to Holmgrens decision. I have to believe if Holmgren thinks Bradford is 'the one' then who are any of us to question? He's about as expert as one can get.

          I'd rather see us win with Defense. Offense is gay.

          Well, if Holmgren were to take a couple of QB's in the lower rounds am sure no one is going to question those decisions and just expect him to produce a quality starter out of them, So if in this crazy world of Browns football he decides it is worth trading up to take Bradford, then that is what is best for the team. as you have got to think we are going to have a reasonable year next year so our draft position hopefully wont be that high as to be as able to trade up for that franchise QB as is the chance at the moment.

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          • next2nothingN next2nothing

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            It would be one thing if the Rams had their QB and weren't really interested in Bradford. Since there is a good chance they will take him, why would they trade out for less than a super rich premium??

            I am fine if we do it, buy boy it better work out or it sets us behind by 6 years.

            I think I would rather stay where we are and take Tebow in the 2nd if he is there..

            Same. I like having more picks that allows us to get more guys into camp and trading up to #1 would cost too much for a chance at landing a franchise QB.

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            Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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            @next2nothing said:

            Same. I like having more picks that allows us to get more guys into camp and trading up to #1 would cost too much for a chance at landing a franchise QB.

            Yep! The key word you used is "chance". That is exactly what the young man is....he is no guarantee & I relish having all the picks we now have. I still expect us to garner at least 1 more pick before this thing is over.

            Mike

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            • Bag O'Browns B
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              B Bag O'Browns wrote on last edited by
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              *IF* the Browns were to do this, it would be imperative for them to NAIL the remainder of their picks, especially in terms of adding depth to the secondary. I'm not for this move BUT if we were to do it, you've got to trust Holmgren and Heckerts judgement about doing so. If this is "their guy" go out and get him, i guess?

              In order to appreciate the top you have to spend some time at the bottom.
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                E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                I would be upset if he WASN'T inquiring with the Rams.

                I don't think we're drafting ten guys. Seriously, there aren't ten veterans on this team that are going to lose their job legitimately (I am talking about the 53 man roster not the practice squad) to rookies. I think we're drafting six or seven guys. If that's the case then three or four picks would be used to move up. Even if we packaged our first, second and third picks this year, we can't even come close to the draft value chart's 3000 points for the #1 overall pick....so I doubt we're doing it. Furthermore, is there anything about Sam Bradford that says to you that he's the guy to move up for? It's bad enough to have the #1 pick and have to make that decision which could set you back years. It's another thing to package the multiple picks it would require to move in and do the same. Remember how the Falcons traded up for Mike Vick? I don't want to be that guy. Sam will probably be a good QB if he can stay healthy but he isn't a once-in-a-generation QB that you have to go "all in" to get.

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                • Gips GipsG
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                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                  We dont need to give away our whole draft for this kid and i seriously doubt we will...however discussing the possibility with the rams was a good sound move from more than one aspect and if the price was right perhaps then we would trade but i think the rams have the hots for this fugly goofy grinned kid and the price would be insane and considering we have holmy to grab a 2nd or 3rd rounder and help mangini groom him up makes it pretty unlikely..

                  We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                  • Mark O Mark OM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                    I would actually think that Holmgren and the Browns aren't doing their job if they didn't at least inquire as to what it would take to get the #1 overall pick.

                    All part of covering all the bases.

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                      Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                      I wouldn't mind seeing Bradford wearing the Brown & Orange, but it seems to me that we have several holes to fill. Savage's trades and the days of having Butch Davis blowing his wad over one player should be a thing of the past. I can only hope.

                      Head or Gut?
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                        C clebron wrote on last edited by
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                        I love Bradford's accuracy, his arm strength and ability to get through progressions

                        I am (as I'm sure most browns fans would be) deathly afraid of his injury issues

                        I'd rather stay put and hope Berry falls to 7

                        2nd round could adress QB

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                          C Cle_4_Lyfe wrote on last edited by Cle_4_Lyfe
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                          I'll be ***** if they take a quarterback. We already got 2 already. We need a defensive back. It would be great if they talked them into getting the #1 pick so we are guaranteed to get Haden or Berry 🙂

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                            I'll be ***** if they take a quarterback. We already got 2 already. We need a defensive back. It would be great if they talked them into getting the #1 pick so we are guaranteed to get Haden or Berry 🙂

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                            @cle_4_lyfe said:

                            I'll be ***** if they take a quarterback. We already got 2 already. We need a defensive back. It would be great if they talked them into getting the #1 pick so we are guaranteed to get Haden or Berry 🙂

                            There is no way we trade up to #1 for a safety. If we make that trade it's for Bradford all the way.

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                            • Earl34 E
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                              E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                              I think the price to trade up to #1 is steeper than most people think. You're looking at the #7 PLUS your second and third at a minimum. They probably want next year's first as well. I don't think you'd pay that for a guy who isn't going to start....unless Holmgren thinks Sam is the QB to end all QBs.

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