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WILL OBAMA RETURN $994,795 IN GOLDMAN SACHS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS?

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  • H heckofajobbrownie

    No, why should he? Not every employee of Goldman Sachs was involved in illegal behavior. Not even a lot of them.

    Give me a break.

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    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    No, why should he? Not every employee of Goldman Sachs was involved in illegal behavior. Not even a lot of them.

    Give me a break.

    This is off topic, Heck, but what is your feeling about - let's say - Blackwater. Do you believe every employee is/was a criminal? A lot of them?

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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      @heckofajobbrownie said:

      No, why should he? Not every employee of Goldman Sachs was involved in illegal behavior. Not even a lot of them.

      Give me a break.

      This is off topic, Heck, but what is your feeling about - let's say - Blackwater. Do you believe every employee is/was a criminal? A lot of them?

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      @chicopee-john said:

      This is off topic, Heck, but what is your feeling about - let's say - Blackwater. Do you believe every employee is/was a criminal? A lot of them?

      Or (God forbid) HALIBURTON???????

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      • C Chicopee John

        @heckofajobbrownie said:

        No, why should he? Not every employee of Goldman Sachs was involved in illegal behavior. Not even a lot of them.

        Give me a break.

        This is off topic, Heck, but what is your feeling about - let's say - Blackwater. Do you believe every employee is/was a criminal? A lot of them?

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        @chicopee-john said:

        This is off topic, Heck, but what is your feeling about - let's say - Blackwater. Do you believe every employee is/was a criminal? A lot of them?

        No. Who thinks every employee of Blackwater is/was a criminal? That's not really where the debate about Blackwater/military contractors is, is it? Or the Halliburton debate, for that matter.

        Someone in our family was a former Marine and Blackwater employee who was killed in Iraq protecting a government official. (The official lived.)

        Again, have the debate with the cartoon Cindy Sheehan version in your head if you must, but at some point you have to take that head out of your ass.

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          Sorry for your loss, Heck.

          "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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          • heckofajobbrownie H
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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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            I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

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            • H heckofajobbrownie

              I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

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              @heckofajobbrownie said:

              I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

              Of course that's limited to nitpicking the opposition.

              We don't often see you calling out your own bedfellows.

              😉

              WSS

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              • H heckofajobbrownie

                I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

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                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

                You didn't play any card, Heck. Not even a whiff of that perceived by me, any way.

                PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

                "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                • H heckofajobbrownie

                  I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

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                  @heckofajobbrownie said:

                  I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

                  And 99% of the time we are correcting your talking points. with facts and not opinion.

                  Head or Gut?
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                    Heck's bogus 75% corrections is 75% trying to diminish any differing viewpoint or fact that doesn't

                    fit with his bigoted politicism.

                    Of course, part of that is accusing others of bigoted politicism.

                    Kinda Soviet Unionish in the old days, to me.

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                    • C Chicopee John

                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                      I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

                      You didn't play any card, Heck. Not even a whiff of that perceived by me, any way.

                      PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

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                      @chicopee-john said:

                      You didn't play any card, Heck. Not even a whiff of that perceived by me, any way.

                      PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

                      I know. But personal experience shouldn't be the only barometer here. If you can't imagine or don't think about what other people go through without having someone you know personally involved, you're always going to have your head up your ass.

                      The book is great. You'll blow through it, don't worry.

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                      • Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                        I don't know if I asked this before.

                        Where do say for instance, Ron Paul's money go when he doesn't win? I mean that dude made a shit load of money and didn't spend much at all.

                        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          He'll keep it. Kept it last time.

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                          • H heckofajobbrownie

                            He'll keep it. Kept it last time.

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                            @heckofajobbrownie said:

                            He'll keep it. Kept it last time.

                            Sort of bullshit if you ask me. At the least he should throw a huge bash at Cleveland Stadium.

                            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              The flip side is that people get upset when they give you money, then you turn around and give it to someone else, someone who they potentially don't support.

                              This way, Ron Paul uses it for Ron Paul's campaign, and then the ones after that as well.

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                              • C Chicopee John

                                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                I'm not trying to pull that card on you, John. I'm just saying - these discussions aren't very enlightening. I spend 75% of the time correcting misinformation and the other 25% in some mostly irrelevant fringe discussion that is a long way from being important.

                                You didn't play any card, Heck. Not even a whiff of that perceived by me, any way.

                                PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

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                                @chicopee-john said:

                                PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

                                It's available at Audible.com.

                                I just bought it.

                                It had better not suck.

                                😎

                                WSS

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                                  @chicopee-john said:

                                  PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

                                  It's available at Audible.com.

                                  I just bought it.

                                  It had better not suck.

                                  😎

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  It's available at Audible.com.

                                  I just bought it.

                                  It had better not suck.

                                  😎

                                  WSS

                                  I will try to crack it open tonight.

                                  "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                                    @chicopee-john said:

                                    PS After going to Barnes Nobel and just happening to be in Raven Bookstore in Northampton, MA Sunday night, I finally found a copy of 'Common Ground' in no other place than our public library. Hefty book. Looks like a hefty content, too.

                                    It's available at Audible.com.

                                    I just bought it.

                                    It had better not suck.

                                    😎

                                    WSS

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    It's available at Audible.com.

                                    I just bought it.

                                    It had better not suck.

                                    😎

                                    WSS

                                    So can you download it to a smart phone or any mp3 device?

                                    Head or Gut?
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      It's available at Audible.com.

                                      I just bought it.

                                      It had better not suck.

                                      😎

                                      WSS

                                      So can you download it to a smart phone or any mp3 device?

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                                      @mr.-t said:

                                      So can you download it to a smart phone or any mp3 device?

                                      Yes.

                                      I go through a shitload of audiobooks and Audible is great.

                                      iPod or any MP3 player, or smartphone will work.

                                      They have a list of devices on the site.

                                      The books are like 9 or so bucks each if you buy one of the memberships.

                                      That just means you pre pay for a number of books.

                                      Mine gives you 24 a year.

                                      www.audible.com

                                      Tell 'em westsidesteve sent you.

                                      WSS

                                      www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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                                        @mr.-t said:

                                        So can you download it to a smart phone or any mp3 device?

                                        Yes.

                                        I go through a shitload of audiobooks and Audible is great.

                                        iPod or any MP3 player, or smartphone will work.

                                        They have a list of devices on the site.

                                        The books are like 9 or so bucks each if you buy one of the memberships.

                                        That just means you pre pay for a number of books.

                                        Mine gives you 24 a year.

                                        www.audible.com

                                        Tell 'em westsidesteve sent you.

                                        WSS

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Yes.

                                        I go through a shitload of audiobooks and Audible is great.

                                        iPod or any MP3 player, or smartphone will work.

                                        They have a list of devices on the site.

                                        The books are like 9 or so bucks each if you buy one of the memberships.

                                        That just means you pre pay for a number of books.

                                        Mine gives you 24 a year.

                                        www.audible.com

                                        Tell 'em westsidesteve sent you.

                                        WSS

                                        I will, this sounds great. By the time I get home at night I am useally tired from reading all day as it is. I do work in the printing industry. Between reading online plus everything else my eyes are tired.

                                        Head or Gut?
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                                          And Heck still believes he isn't making any progress way with this group!!

                                          "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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