Big Gay Ben Suspended for 4-6 Games.

[daddybull1]

Seems Big Gay Ben has an alcohol problem....

Being a former bar owner here in pennsylvania, I can't understand how no one is being held responsible for buying and serving alcohol to an under aged person... Also if it's true that Big Gay Ben exposed himself, wouldn't that be a contributing or a diorderly conduct offense...

As I said previously, I hope the prosecutor is enjoying his new SUV....

Peace

T.Dawg

[Speedyd900rr]

I cant wait for the Browns to make them look like a high school team again.

[BrownIndian]

@thepixburghkid said:

Below .500??? Are you serious??? We still have DD and Leftwich who are 2 good QB's....just keep hoping u xxxxs would actually finish above us in the division

I hope u guys start these 2 QB's for the rest of ur life.

[The Gipper]

@thepixburghkid said:

Below .500??? Are you serious??? We still have DD and Leftwich who are 2 good QB's....just keep hoping u xxxxs would actually finish above us in the division

I agree with this much: Until about mid-2008 very little of the success or failure of the Steelers had to do with BR's performance. In the last year and a half however the Steelers became a QB dependent team. And the two guys you mention are not QBs to really be relied on for a QB dependent team. It is you who are dreaming if you think that. (Plus, as mentioned they have lost their best receiver...even when BR comes back). For the Steelers to be successful again, they have to revert to the sort of team they in BR's rookie and second year. They have to be a run/defense oriented team.

Let's face it though, their running game is nothing like it was when they had a combination of Jerome Bettis/Willie Parker. You can sing the praises of Warner Mendenhall all you want, but he is not proven to be anything on the order of Bettis/Parker.

The defense might show that same strenghth that they had. The operative word being "might". They still have LeBeau running things on defense, and that is everything to them. Yes, that defense will have to carry the Steelers if they want any chance to be a playoff team.

[The Gipper]

@dawgpound3 said:

Dixon and Leftwich are good QBs? I want what to know what you're smoking seriously...

Leftwich's statistics in Tampa:

Completion Percentage: 54%

Passer Rating: 71.2

Dixon's statistics:

Completion Percentage: 46%

Passer Rating: 60.8

Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson would be better.

[dawgpound3]

@the-gipper said:

Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson would be better.

I agree.

[Speedyd900rr]

I wonder how many trolls will disappear when the squeelers come in last place this year. I bet once we start to own the division mid season we will get a surge of people signing up to the Browns Board claiming to be fans all along.

[Vagitron]

@cribbs-is-the-man said:

I bet the suspension gets reduced and he plays in the game against us..

Um the report already states that it's a conditional suspension. If he goes through a behavioral evaluation and maintains a certain demeanor through the first 4 game suspension it will only be a 4 game suspension. The kicker is he's held out of OTA's until this psyche evaluation is complete which is total B.S. I just hope that evaluation is done much sooner than later.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ame-suspension/

I knew that 4 games would be the penalty the second I saw the Steeler's schedule. The NFL has no balls and was terrified to put the Steelers in a prime time game without Ben. It's a four game suspension, followed by a bye week and then the Browns. This is such bull crap. Way to favor certain teams over others Goodell.

lol. A 6 game suspension is MORE than harsh. A 4 game suspension is still a little rough so I don't see how anyone is getting preferential treatment for a player that wasn't even charged. You're just pissed you're still going to lose that game. Hell you'd lose that game with DD behind center.

[dawgpound3]

Rorbotron said:

Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.

Well xxxxing Tampa as you describe, had some recievers in 2009. Had Kellen Winslow, Marcus Stovall, Antonio Bryant(was hurt most of time but went to cinci), and Straughter. Why is that Freeman did better than him? Not stat-wise, but on game film? Cuz Leftwich sucks nut. END OF STORY. YOU FAIL.

[KYBrown]

Rorbotron said:

Since when do people base Leftwich's ability on what he did in f.ucking tampa? Oh let me answer that, absolutely no one.

What has he done to prove he is a QB capable of carrying what has become a pass first team?

One playoff berth? Losing the starting job in two different cities?

Edit: He attempted fifty one passes as a Steeler.

Double Edit: Scratch that, it was only thirty six.

[Vagitron]

@dawgpound3 said:

Well xxxxing Tampa as you describe, had some recievers in 2009. Had Kellen Winslow, Marcus Stovall, Antonio Bryant(was hurt most of time but went to cinci), and Straughter. Why is that Freeman did better than him? Not stat-wise, but on game film? Cuz Leftwich sucks nut. END OF STORY. YOU FAIL.

He did well when he started for us and he certainly played well for the Jags. His only detriment is his slow release. All this coming from a guy whose starting QB is Jake Delhomme lol.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

lol. A 6 game suspension is MORE than harsh. A 4 game suspension is still a little rough so I don't see how anyone is getting preferential treatment for a player that wasn't even charged. You're just pissed you're still going to lose that game. Hell you'd lose that game with DD behind center.

i'm not pissed about the suspension. he's getting that he deserves. i am pissed that the nfl didn't have the balls to put the steelers in a prime time game without ben.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

i'm not pissed about the suspension. he's getting that he deserves. i am pissed that the nfl didn't have the balls to put the steelers in a prime time game without ben.

If he gets the full 6 it does and why would the league? They know those prime time games make money. The Steelers without Big Ben draws less of a crowd. I'm sure you wouldn't give a sh.it if the Browns weren't slated to play the Steelers week six.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

If he gets the full 6 it does and why would the league? They know those prime time games make money. The Steelers without Big Ben draws less of a crowd. I'm sure you wouldn't give a sh.it if the Browns weren't slated to play the Steelers week six.

actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.

[choco]

then by your logic...jake will be fine. Defining future success on past performance

[Vagitron]

@choco said:

then by your logic...jake will be fine. Defining future success on past performance

Leftwich played well when he had to start for the Steelers. He hardly had a opportunity in Tampa Bay because the team was flat out bad. They put in Freeman so he could get experience under center because their seasons was clearly on the down turn. Jake Delhomme on the other hand hasn't played well for a while. Bryon has within the last 2 years.

[Vagitron]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

actually, i really don't care. we beat them last year with ben and we can do it again. also, go away.

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

[SJ_Browns]

here are some interesting bits of info from goodell and a portion of the letter he sent to ben.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...ethlisberger-/1

From Goodell's letter to Ben: "You are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans," Goodell told Roethlisberger.

Roethlisberger will not be allowed to participate in the Steelers' offseason workouts until his behavior is evaluated by medical professionals. The evaluators will confer with Goodell later this summer, and if Roethlisberger is progressing he will be allowed to participate in training camp and the preseason.

Goodell noted that Roethlisberger was charged with no crime. But he said the fact that the QB provided alcohol to underage people was a factor in his decision. "There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk," he told Roethlisberger.

Goodell spoke with Georgia DA Fred Bright, who decided not to charge Roethlisberger, as he considered the punishment. He told the QB to consider the ban not only a punishment but a second chance to reform his decision-making.

"In your six years in the NFL, you have first thrilled and now disappointed a great many people," he told Roethlisberger. "I urge you to take full advantage of this opportunity to get your life and career back on track."

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Rorbotron said:

No Aaron Smith, Polamalu...either of those guys are back and you get murdered. Yes the Steeler defense strictly hinges on both.

news flash genius: we didn't beat you with offense. you could have everyone at full strength on defense and it still would have helped you guys stop cribbs on special teams or your line from stopping our defense from sacking ben 8 times. troy and smith wouldn't have helped.