Schefter Reports Steelers trying to trade benny now
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Previous speculation had the Rams interested. Personally, I think if the Steelers were to do a deal with the Rams for #1 overall, they would have to sweeten the pot. Rams could say, give us BR and your #1
In fact, I think any team that is in the top 10 would ask for that.
What do you think: Browns trade their #7 to Peetown for BR and for the Steelers #18 overall pick. Fair deal? Would you do it? Then BR would be our PR nightmare
.You're also outta your damn mind. You seriously believe the above? Seriously? If he's shipped off it better be for a first this year, a first next year and a player to contribute immediately this year or it's not worth it. The Rooney's are scaring Ben straight and the suspension is also conditional. 6 games with the possibility of 4. Still a pretty harsh penalty for no conviction but if QB's being the posters boys of the league and Rooney with such a prominent role a example was made. My vote is no way in hell he's traded and I question your overall football wherewithal by making a Retarded comment like Big Ben plus the Steelers first for a top 10 pick. Actually think about that for a second and then punch yourself in the face.
Rorbotron said:
You're also outta your damn mind. You seriously believe the above? Seriously? If he's shipped off it better be for a first this year, a first next year and a player to contribute immediately this year or it's not worth it. The Rooney's are scaring Ben straight and the suspension is also conditional. 6 games with the possibility of 4. Still a pretty harsh penalty for no conviction but if QB's being the posters boys of the league and Rooney with such a prominent role a example was made. My vote is no way in hell he's traded and I question your overall football wherewithal by making a Retarded comment like Big Ben plus the Steelers first for a top 10 pick. Actually think about that for a second and then punch yourself in the face.Am I out of my damn mind? Absolutely not. That is why I would not ask for anything less than BR plus the Steelers #18 pick for our #7. And I bet you that all other teams would be thinking the same way. It is you who are delusional if you think BR would return what you claim in a trade. You are looking at this with Urine colored glasses.
I agree that I doubt that he is traded, but if he is, I would wager it would be along the lines of what I suggest and no where near what you think. The Dude is now a liability and the owner may be willing to take whatever bargain basement price he can get. And if he asks for more, the other owners/GMs in the NFL will be trying to cut his throat on a deal. Earth to Rorbotron!
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Rorbotron said:
You're also outta your damn mind. You seriously believe the above? Seriously? If he's shipped off it better be for a first this year, a first next year and a player to contribute immediately this year or it's not worth it. The Rooney's are scaring Ben straight and the suspension is also conditional. 6 games with the possibility of 4. Still a pretty harsh penalty for no conviction but if QB's being the posters boys of the league and Rooney with such a prominent role a example was made. My vote is no way in hell he's traded and I question your overall football wherewithal by making a Retarded comment like Big Ben plus the Steelers first for a top 10 pick. Actually think about that for a second and then punch yourself in the face.Am I out of my damn mind? Absolutely not. That is why I would not ask for anything less than BR plus the Steelers #18 pick for our #7. And I bet you that all other teams would be thinking the same way. It is you who are delusional if you think BR would return what you claim in a trade. You are looking at this with Urine colored glasses.
I agree that I doubt that he is traded, but if he is, I would wager it would be along the lines of what I suggest and no where near what you think. The Dude is now a liability and the owner may be willing to take whatever bargain basement price he can get. And if he asks for more, the other owners/GMs in the NFL will be trying to cut his throat on a deal. Earth to Rorbotron!
Am I out of my damn mind? Absolutely not. That is why I would not ask for anything less than BR plus the Steelers #18 pick for our #7. And I bet you that all other teams would be thinking the same way. It is you who are delusional if you think BR would return what you claim in a trade. You are looking at this with Urine colored glasses.
I agree that I doubt that he is traded, but if he is, I would wager it would be along the lines of what I suggest and no where near what you think.
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
2 firsts and a starter? That's funny...now who is overvaluing....
I suppose you think holmes was worth a first.
You don't seem to understand how devalued problem players are.
2 firsts and a starter? That's funny...now who is overvaluing....
I suppose you think holmes was worth a first.
You don't seem to understand how devalued problem players are.
Umm the Steelers were going to cut Holmes so the Steelers organization devalued Holmes all on their own. Plenty of people on this message board labeled it "the biggest rip off ever" so who the hell are you trying to fool? 4 Franchise QB's in the league and Ben is one of them. If he's traded for anything less it's highway robbery.
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We would be worse than those apes if we took BR.
How ? Viewing with an unbiased eye some of the positives about Ben are
* Ability to keep plays alive by buying more time
* good height and arms with a nice vision + not easy to bring down
* not so prone to mistakes
* still young
* able to handle pressure in big games
And if we are interested, he is an Ohio native.
Right now he seems a bad guy cos of his character getting a bad rep with the things he did , but he is not that bad. I would not feel bad if we took BR. I would be kinda relieved that we have an answer for QB position.
How ? Viewing with an unbiased eye some of the positives about Ben are
* Ability to keep plays alive by buying more time
* good height and arms with a nice vision + not easy to bring down
* not so prone to mistakes
* still young
* able to handle pressure in big games
And if we are interested, he is an Ohio native.
Right now he seems a bad guy cos of his character getting a bad rep with the things he did , but he is not that bad. I would not feel bad if we took BR. I would be kinda relieved that we have an answer for QB position.
i remember ben saying (during his rookie season) that even though he's an ohio native, he always hated the browns. f*ck him, i hope his serial sexual offending @ss gets traded to oakland.
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2 firsts and a starter? That's funny...now who is overvaluing....
I suppose you think holmes was worth a first.
You don't seem to understand how devalued problem players are.
Umm the Steelers were going to cut Holmes so the Steelers organization devalued Holmes all on their own. Plenty of people on this message board labeled it "the biggest rip off ever" so who the hell are you trying to fool? 4 Franchise QB's in the league and Ben is one of them. If he's traded for anything less it's highway robbery.
Rorbotron said:
Umm the Steelers were going to cut Holmes so the Steelers organization devalued Holmes all on their own. Plenty of people on this message board labeled it "the biggest rip off ever" so who the hell are you trying to fool? 4 Franchise QB's in the league and Ben is one of them. If he's traded for anything less it's highway robbery.First there are more franchise quarterbacks in this league then just 4. You are kidding yourself. Look, to quote you you are "football Retarded" if you believe that. There are more than 4 in the afc alone. Second its all the other teams in the nfl that set the value for what benjamin is worth not the steelers. He has become damaged goods now that the dreaded charactar issues have piled up on him. No team in the NFL, (acception the raiders) will have him valued as being worth two first rounders and a current starting player. Now if i were a steeler fan and we were looking to shop our franchise quarterback i would want everything that i possibly could in return and would probably over value him too. But this is reality not what you would wish to have. Thats why from what schefter is reporting the steelers would want to trade him for a top ten pick and thats all in pretty much a heart beat. They realize what the realistic value is of him now. Now before everything then yes he would have been worth possibly 2 first rounders but now his value has decreased dramatically. A team that would take him on now would be taking a big chance.
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Rorbotron said:
Umm the Steelers were going to cut Holmes so the Steelers organization devalued Holmes all on their own. Plenty of people on this message board labeled it "the biggest rip off ever" so who the hell are you trying to fool? 4 Franchise QB's in the league and Ben is one of them. If he's traded for anything less it's highway robbery.First there are more franchise quarterbacks in this league then just 4. You are kidding yourself. Look, to quote you you are "football Retarded" if you believe that. There are more than 4 in the afc alone. Second its all the other teams in the nfl that set the value for what benjamin is worth not the steelers. He has become damaged goods now that the dreaded charactar issues have piled up on him. No team in the NFL, (acception the raiders) will have him valued as being worth two first rounders and a current starting player. Now if i were a steeler fan and we were looking to shop our franchise quarterback i would want everything that i possibly could in return and would probably over value him too. But this is reality not what you would wish to have. Thats why from what schefter is reporting the steelers would want to trade him for a top ten pick and thats all in pretty much a heart beat. They realize what the realistic value is of him now. Now before everything then yes he would have been worth possibly 2 first rounders but now his value has decreased dramatically. A team that would take him on now would be taking a big chance.
First there are more franchise quarterbacks in this league then just 4. You are kidding yourself. Look, to quote you you are "football Retarded" if you believe that. There are more than 4 in the afc alone. Second its all the other teams in the nfl that set the value for what benjamin is worth not the steelers. He has become damaged goods now that the dreaded charactar issues have piled up on him. No team in the NFL, (acception the raiders) will have him valued as being worth two first rounders and a current starting player. Now if i were a steeler fan and we were looking to shop our franchise quarterback i would want everything that i possibly could in return and would probably over value him too. But this is reality not what you would wish to have. Thats why from what schefter is reporting the steelers would want to trade him for a top ten pick and thats all in pretty much a heart beat. They realize what the realistic value is of him now. Now before everything then yes he would have been worth possibly 2 first rounders but now his value has decreased dramatically. A team that would take him on now would be taking a big chance.
I should alter my terminology or at least my proposed definition of Franchise QB. Franchise QB's that have proven they can win the big game when the game is placed squarely on their shoulders. Yes I would consider Flacco a franchise QB, Palmer even though he can't muster a win when it matters most. You then have Matt Ryan, Rodgers etc. Yes I agree but there are only 4 QB's in the league currently with the hardware and the undeniable ability to win football games. As far as his value is considered no team in the NFL would be "taking a chance" by trading for Big Ben. He's not Pacman Jones or Micheal Vick. He can't keep his dick in his pants, all of which should all be corrected at this point considered the no doubt unexpected backlash. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers. The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Am I out of my damn mind? Absolutely not. That is why I would not ask for anything less than BR plus the Steelers #18 pick for our #7. And I bet you that all other teams would be thinking the same way. It is you who are delusional if you think BR would return what you claim in a trade. You are looking at this with Urine colored glasses.
I agree that I doubt that he is traded, but if he is, I would wager it would be along the lines of what I suggest and no where near what you think.
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.
Rorbotron said:
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.What's so funny? It doesn't seem out of the question. I am tired and sick hearing of Roethlisberger's name plastered over the headlines I wish the Steelers do trade him.
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Rorbotron said:
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.What's so funny? It doesn't seem out of the question. I am tired and sick hearing of Roethlisberger's name plastered over the headlines I wish the Steelers do trade him.
What's so funny? It doesn't seem out of the question. I am tired and sick hearing of Roethlisberger's name plastered over the headlines I wish the Steelers do trade him.
Of course it's out of the question. The Steelers AREN'T going to trade Big Ben and the 18th pick to move up in to the top 10. It won't be with the Rams, they've already said they aren't interested which takes Bradford off the table. I wouldn't be happy with Bradford under center which then leaves guys like Clausen who I also want no part of...If the Steelers trade Ben they will retain the 18th selection in the draft, to imply otherwise is absolutely ridiculous and only something that would exist the mouth of someone from Cleveland.
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You say we're drinkin the koolaide?
You lost the little bit of respect I had for you. You inability to remain objective is why you're defending a rapist
You say we're drinkin the koolaide?
You lost the little bit of respect I had for you. You inability to remain objective is why you're defending a rapist
Who is this directed towards? The message board is all jacked up for me, for whatever reason. I can see the OP post and then every post made after I have to physically click on to read.
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What's so funny? It doesn't seem out of the question. I am tired and sick hearing of Roethlisberger's name plastered over the headlines I wish the Steelers do trade him.
Of course it's out of the question. The Steelers AREN'T going to trade Big Ben and the 18th pick to move up in to the top 10. It won't be with the Rams, they've already said they aren't interested which takes Bradford off the table. I wouldn't be happy with Bradford under center which then leaves guys like Clausen who I also want no part of...If the Steelers trade Ben they will retain the 18th selection in the draft, to imply otherwise is absolutely ridiculous and only something that would exist the mouth of someone from Cleveland.
Rorbotron said:
Of course it's out of the question. The Steelers AREN'T going to trade Big Ben and the 18th pick to move up in to the top 10. It won't be with the Rams, they've already said they aren't interested which takes Bradford off the table. I wouldn't be happy with Bradford under center which then leaves guys like Clausen who I also want no part of...If the Steelers trade Ben they will retain the 18th selection in the draft, to imply otherwise is absolutely ridiculous and only something that would exist the mouth of someone from Cleveland.You're ridiculous. You are telling you wouldn't take a first rounder for roethlisberger? Wow,what a f.uckin homo.
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Am I out of my damn mind? Absolutely not. That is why I would not ask for anything less than BR plus the Steelers #18 pick for our #7. And I bet you that all other teams would be thinking the same way. It is you who are delusional if you think BR would return what you claim in a trade. You are looking at this with Urine colored glasses.
I agree that I doubt that he is traded, but if he is, I would wager it would be along the lines of what I suggest and no where near what you think.
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.
Rorbotron said:
Amusing. You are absolutely out of your mind or at the very least football Retarded. Absolutely NO WAY the Steelers trade the 18th pick and Big Ben to move up in to the top 10. The fact that you're even suggesting it really brings in to question how you evaluate anything whether it be football or every day dealings. Big Ben plus our 18th lmao.In a normal situation, you would be right. If BR did not have 2 rape accusations against him, didn't have a 4--6-more game suspension over his head, if he wasn't ordered to undergo a barrage of psychological evaluations, if he hadn't become the pariah that he has become...if he were a choir boy, an Eagle Scout....you would be right.
But all those things ARE happening to him. He is a pariah....even in the city he plays in.
He is a commodity, just like the housing market. And just like the housing market, BRs value has crash landed. He is being threatened with foreclosure and condemnation. He has become a ghetto unto himself.
Ain't nobody nowhere nohow gonna give what you think they should give for him.
And, if you believe what you say, I have a deal for you: See, there is this bridge.....
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First there are more franchise quarterbacks in this league then just 4. You are kidding yourself. Look, to quote you you are "football Retarded" if you believe that. There are more than 4 in the afc alone. Second its all the other teams in the nfl that set the value for what benjamin is worth not the steelers. He has become damaged goods now that the dreaded charactar issues have piled up on him. No team in the NFL, (acception the raiders) will have him valued as being worth two first rounders and a current starting player. Now if i were a steeler fan and we were looking to shop our franchise quarterback i would want everything that i possibly could in return and would probably over value him too. But this is reality not what you would wish to have. Thats why from what schefter is reporting the steelers would want to trade him for a top ten pick and thats all in pretty much a heart beat. They realize what the realistic value is of him now. Now before everything then yes he would have been worth possibly 2 first rounders but now his value has decreased dramatically. A team that would take him on now would be taking a big chance.
I should alter my terminology or at least my proposed definition of Franchise QB. Franchise QB's that have proven they can win the big game when the game is placed squarely on their shoulders. Yes I would consider Flacco a franchise QB, Palmer even though he can't muster a win when it matters most. You then have Matt Ryan, Rodgers etc. Yes I agree but there are only 4 QB's in the league currently with the hardware and the undeniable ability to win football games. As far as his value is considered no team in the NFL would be "taking a chance" by trading for Big Ben. He's not Pacman Jones or Micheal Vick. He can't keep his dick in his pants, all of which should all be corrected at this point considered the no doubt unexpected backlash. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers. The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.
Rorbotron said:
I should alter my terminology or at least my proposed definition of Franchise QB. Franchise QB's that have proven they can win the big game when the game is placed squarely on their shoulders. Yes I would consider Flacco a franchise QB, Palmer even though he can't muster a win when it matters most. You then have Matt Ryan, Rodgers etc. Yes I agree but there are only 4 QB's in the league currently with the hardware and the undeniable ability to win football games. As far as his value is considered no team in the NFL would be "taking a chance" by trading for Big Ben. He's not Pacman Jones or Micheal Vick. He can't keep his dick in his pants, all of which should all be corrected at this point considered the no doubt unexpected backlash. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers. The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.Im somewhat with you on the franchise qb deal now. Ben is definately a top qb in the league but i dont think there is a drastic difference between him and rodgers and other guys kind of in that same class that arent named brees, manning, and brady. I think the talent around him is what has helped him win those big games not that hes anymore valuable than the rest of the quality franchise tag QB's. He would be a chance. Obviously not by his physical attributes and what he does on the field but by his poor decisions and issues off the field he is a chance. If it was just one bad decision it would be one thing but now we are starting to see a history of bad decisions which means he hasnt learned from his mistakes yet. If you give up a lot for him then he gets caught again in another bad situation hes looking at big time trouble with mr. goodell.
I too find it hard to see him in another uniform but it sounds more and more like there is more than just smoke to these trade talks. They are actively shopping him and they arent asking for the farm from what reports are. Just a pick in the top 10 will do from what is being confirmed. Now if they can get two teams in a bidding war then maybe but that is unlikely going to happen for a guy who is skating on very thin ice.
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First there are more franchise quarterbacks in this league then just 4. You are kidding yourself. Look, to quote you you are "football Retarded" if you believe that. There are more than 4 in the afc alone. Second its all the other teams in the nfl that set the value for what benjamin is worth not the steelers. He has become damaged goods now that the dreaded charactar issues have piled up on him. No team in the NFL, (acception the raiders) will have him valued as being worth two first rounders and a current starting player. Now if i were a steeler fan and we were looking to shop our franchise quarterback i would want everything that i possibly could in return and would probably over value him too. But this is reality not what you would wish to have. Thats why from what schefter is reporting the steelers would want to trade him for a top ten pick and thats all in pretty much a heart beat. They realize what the realistic value is of him now. Now before everything then yes he would have been worth possibly 2 first rounders but now his value has decreased dramatically. A team that would take him on now would be taking a big chance.
I should alter my terminology or at least my proposed definition of Franchise QB. Franchise QB's that have proven they can win the big game when the game is placed squarely on their shoulders. Yes I would consider Flacco a franchise QB, Palmer even though he can't muster a win when it matters most. You then have Matt Ryan, Rodgers etc. Yes I agree but there are only 4 QB's in the league currently with the hardware and the undeniable ability to win football games. As far as his value is considered no team in the NFL would be "taking a chance" by trading for Big Ben. He's not Pacman Jones or Micheal Vick. He can't keep his dick in his pants, all of which should all be corrected at this point considered the no doubt unexpected backlash. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers. The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.
Rorbotron said:
. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers.Bingo!! HALLELUJAH. Pass the Tylenol. Now you are starting to get it. Exactly, there are 31 other teams that would want to phuck and rob the steelers.
The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.
Maybe you are right. Maybe the Rooney's may want to try to dump their garbage and get gold in return. Can't blame them for trying.
However, "worth" is a Fair Market Value matter. You are wanting Beverly Hills price for Compton quality. The rest of the people around the league are not as dumb as you think. (i.e. they are not "Steeler Fan Stupid")
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Rorbotron said:
I should alter my terminology or at least my proposed definition of Franchise QB. Franchise QB's that have proven they can win the big game when the game is placed squarely on their shoulders. Yes I would consider Flacco a franchise QB, Palmer even though he can't muster a win when it matters most. You then have Matt Ryan, Rodgers etc. Yes I agree but there are only 4 QB's in the league currently with the hardware and the undeniable ability to win football games. As far as his value is considered no team in the NFL would be "taking a chance" by trading for Big Ben. He's not Pacman Jones or Micheal Vick. He can't keep his dick in his pants, all of which should all be corrected at this point considered the no doubt unexpected backlash. Teams want to say his value has decreased dramatically so they can rob him from the Steelers. The fact of the matter is this, the Rooney's aren't going to unload him for just a top 10 pick this year. They are fully aware that he's worth much more and a already went on the record in saying that he deserves a second chance and he's going to work to prove he deserves that chance. It was said in both Art Sr. and Art Jr's press conferences. He's not going anywhere. The Steelers are just putting the feelers out for a Hershel Walker esque trade, one that likely won't arrive. The end.Im somewhat with you on the franchise qb deal now. Ben is definately a top qb in the league but i dont think there is a drastic difference between him and rodgers and other guys kind of in that same class that arent named brees, manning, and brady. I think the talent around him is what has helped him win those big games not that hes anymore valuable than the rest of the quality franchise tag QB's. He would be a chance. Obviously not by his physical attributes and what he does on the field but by his poor decisions and issues off the field he is a chance. If it was just one bad decision it would be one thing but now we are starting to see a history of bad decisions which means he hasnt learned from his mistakes yet. If you give up a lot for him then he gets caught again in another bad situation hes looking at big time trouble with mr. goodell.
I too find it hard to see him in another uniform but it sounds more and more like there is more than just smoke to these trade talks. They are actively shopping him and they arent asking for the farm from what reports are. Just a pick in the top 10 will do from what is being confirmed. Now if they can get two teams in a bidding war then maybe but that is unlikely going to happen for a guy who is skating on very thin ice.
Im somewhat with you on the franchise qb deal now. Ben is definately a top qb in the league but i dont think there is a drastic difference between him and rodgers and other guys kind of in that same class that arent named brees, manning, and brady. I think the talent around him is what has helped him win those big games not that hes anymore valuable than the rest of the quality franchise tag QB's. He would be a chance. Obviously not by his physical attributes and what he does on the field but by his poor decisions and issues off the field he is a chance. If it was just one bad decision it would be one thing but now we are starting to see a history of bad decisions which means he hasnt learned from his mistakes yet. If you give up a lot for him then he gets caught again in another bad situation hes looking at big time trouble with mr. goodell.
I too find it hard to see him in another uniform but it sounds more and more like there is more than just smoke to these trade talks. They are actively shopping him and they arent asking for the farm from what reports are. Just a pick in the top 10 will do from what is being confirmed. Now if they can get two teams in a bidding war then maybe but that is unlikely going to happen for a guy who is skating on very thin ice.
I don't disagree. He's one issue away from completely tanking but this scenario is a scared straight situation. He'll be walking the line the rest of his career and if for some reason he doesn't you can be rest assured he and Santonio will have shared a similar fate. As far as the other "franchise QB's are concerned I do believe he's a cut above. Aaron Rodgers is the closest to the group of "elite" because he too extends plays and wins games. I'd also place a good bit of credence on the "smoke screen" approach because that's all it is...they are putting the feelers out and accepting calls. I'm still not sure why schefter is reporting the Steelers are contacting teams because Ed Bouchette claims he was Steeler HQ and it was the other teams contacting the Steelers. The man isn't going anywhere. He'll serve his 4 and hopefully come back a better QB and person. He's losing something close to 3 million dollars. Someone on my Steelers board posted a quick breakdown just to put it in to perspective for people and just how some take complete advantage of the blessings they are given.
If you make 50k a year it would take you 86 years to make 3 million dollars. If you make 400k it would take you 7.5 to make that much..i'm assuming taxes etc is involved. Big Ben is going to lose that much in a month and a half. Pretty crazy.
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Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
Alright so on my primary board someone posted something from someone that used to be a regular on the old Tribune review message board. The regular in question has close ties to the higher ups in the front office and plays golf with both players and coaches. I was unaware of all of this until now, I guess he used to play for the Steelers and the Bears in the 80's as a offensive lineman. Anyway SUPPOSEDLY there are a few offers on the table for Ben and they are substantial. Once again all RUMORS but still from a league insider.
The Cardinals have offered their 1st, 2nd, 3rd this year and a first next year
The Seahawks have offered their 2 firsts this year and their first next year.
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO NOT READ, RUMORS but also Rumors from a league insider. A guy that has provided SOLID, SPOT ON info in the past. I guess in my limited time on that board I didn't realize he was so connected. The Trib closed down the board because the traffic was through the roof and it was slowing down their entire site. My current board is the off-shoot.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
AND I still think making either trade if there is some truth would still set the Steelers back 3 or 4 seasons.
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Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
Alright so on my primary board someone posted something from someone that used to be a regular on the old Tribune review message board. The regular in question has close ties to the higher ups in the front office and plays golf with both players and coaches. I was unaware of all of this until now, I guess he used to play for the Steelers and the Bears in the 80's as a offensive lineman. Anyway SUPPOSEDLY there are a few offers on the table for Ben and they are substantial. Once again all RUMORS but still from a league insider.
The Cardinals have offered their 1st, 2nd, 3rd this year and a first next year
The Seahawks have offered their 2 firsts this year and their first next year.
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO NOT READ, RUMORS but also Rumors from a league insider. A guy that has provided SOLID, SPOT ON info in the past. I guess in my limited time on that board I didn't realize he was so connected. The Trib closed down the board because the traffic was through the roof and it was slowing down their entire site. My current board is the off-shoot.
Rorbotron said:
Alright so on my primary board someone posted something from someone that used to be a regular on the old Tribune review message board. The regular in question has close ties to the higher ups in the front office and plays golf with both players and coaches. I was unaware of all of this until now, I guess he used to play for the Steelers and the Bears in the 80's as a offensive lineman. Anyway SUPPOSEDLY there are a few offers on the table for Ben and they are substantial. Once again all RUMORS but still from a league insider.The Cardinals have offered their 1st, 2nd, 3rd this year and a first next year
The Seahawks have offered their 2 firsts this year and their first next year.
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO NOT READ, RUMORS but also Rumors from a league insider. A guy that has provided SOLID, SPOT ON info in the past. I guess in my limited time on that board I didn't realize he was so connected. The Trib closed down the board because the traffic was through the roof and it was slowing down their entire site. My current board is the off-shoot.
If they can get that deal the Steelers should jump on it like BR on a coed.
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Schefter reports on Espn that Pittsburgh is trying to trade benny boy for a top 10 first round pick now. Says that if they can get a top ten pick he will more than likely be shipped out. Very very interesting.
AND I still think making either trade if there is some truth would still set the Steelers back 3 or 4 seasons.
Rorbotron said:
AND I still think making either trade if there is some truth would still set the Steelers back 3 or 4 seasons.True, but at least they can build up the defense back up.
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