Fans Cheer Anderson's Injury?
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I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
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Im sure many of us here have gotten angry at some point in our lives, but how many of us have gotten booed and mocked at in home stadium by 30,000+ fans who also make fun of you when you get badly injured ? How many fan bases are there in any sports that does that ?
The truth is, that it is not just the Browns that suck but the fan base also. And while taking potshots @ Oakland please remember that while the Oakland crowd got upset at the offense with JRussel, they never mocked him. I cannot imagine any quality player coming to Cleveland to play under such circumstances.
I hope it is BQ who goes and DA who stays. I dont want BQ to ever face such crap in his life. Since DA has taken the crap once he can deal with it again.
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I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
Also, doesn't the crowd always golf clap/ cheer when the injured player gets up and helped off the field upon realizing that it's not another Joe Theisman laying on the ground?
I think DA knows he's done in Cleveland , and he's metastasizing any kind of locker-room cancer he can.
Hold on to that Insight Bowl MVP, so it can pay for drinks at the local Scaappppooooose watering hole.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
I'm sure there were probably a few drunk guys who had a few choice words to say to DA as he went into the tunnel, but it bothers me that DA's painting it like the entire stadium erupted into cheers when he hurt his knee.
If you search around on the net, it looks like those actually in attendance at the game are all saying the same thing--they clapped when DA got up and Dorsey went in, but not when DA went down.
I think he's trying to villify us as a fan base, like we're so horrible for calling for Brady after DA's half-season-long miserable performance.
He's throwing himself a pity party, with his childish, cheap shot at Quinn and whining about his mistreatment from us mean ol' Browns fans.
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I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
I was at both yesterdays game and the Tim Couch supposed cheering when he was injured and to be honest, it was hard to tell whether the crowd was cheering the injury, him getting up in one piece, Dorsey/Holcomb trotting onto the field, or all of the above.
The matter should be down played. You shouldn't be such a sissy and get injured and you shouldn't give the home crowd reason to boo your ass anyhow.
Scrap'em off and let's play ball.
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I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
Also, doesn't the crowd always golf clap/ cheer when the injured player gets up and helped off the field upon realizing that it's not another Joe Theisman laying on the ground?
I think DA knows he's done in Cleveland , and he's metastasizing any kind of locker-room cancer he can.
Hold on to that Insight Bowl MVP, so it can pay for drinks at the local Scaappppooooose watering hole.
Also, doesn't the crowd always golf clap/ cheer when the injured player gets up and helped off the field upon realizing that it's not another Joe Theisman laying on the ground?
I think DA knows he's done in Cleveland , and he's metastasizing any kind of locker-room cancer he can.
Hold on to that Insight Bowl MVP, so it can pay for drinks at the local Scaappppooooose watering hole.
That's ALOT better than they've treated our last 3 head coaches before RAC - unless all 3 were lying about death threats called into their families at all hours of the night. That's NOT something that will work in our favor if it continues. I don't think anyone TRIES to be disappointing and the SAD thing is we often SCAPEGOAT the entire thing to just the Head Coach because it eases our mind that it's just 1 simple problem solve. Has it been yet?
How did Policy sneak out of town without an ounce of accountability? Now THAT is talent! To this day, I keep hearing Butch Davis is more responsible for WHERE we are at this point than either Phil Savage or Carmen Policy. If so, why do we STILL have Kellen Winslow, Ryan Pontbriand, Sean Jones, Ryan Tucker, Phil Dawson, and Steve Heiden under contract? Why did Savage give Andra Davis a raise?
While Butch SUCKED at playing GM - he didn't HIRE himself did he? In addition, BEFORE he lost the team with the college rah rah stuff we're suddenly pissed at RAC for not having, Davis reversed the 5-27 topl;ayoffs in his 2nd year. During his FIRST year he problem-solved Candybone Brown with Jamir Miller on the edge playing sic em, sock em and sack em. End result? We led the AFC in INTing opposing QBs. The next logical step was to plan our defense around Jamir Miller's strengths in 2002. One problem: he blew out his achilles tendon and his career ended so more problem solving needed to be done and we made the playoffs where Courtney Brown got called for roughing the passer after an incompletion on 3rd and 15 AND Anthony Henry dropped an INT so I heard Butch Davis couldn't coach up the wazoo. How many Pro Bowl players did we have on our 2002 playoff team? I thought the coaching in 2001 and 2002 was the best it's been since we got our team back. I can't say the same for 2003 or any year after that until 2007. Last year the coaching was good in my opinion. However, 2005, 2006 and 2008 - it's been disappointing. Savage NEEDS credit for some of this.
- Tom F.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
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Didn't catch the game, but I was wondering if it was true the fans cheered when he went down?
As an aside, I feel bad for Anderson getting jeered if that's what happened, but, man, he is unprofessional. Taking credit for the play of the linemen, offering excuses for his own poor play, needling the fans' love of Quinn--and Quinn himself--by pointing out that he 'waxed' Notre Dame once, and then topping it off by saying the press corp is 'smoking crack'. He and Quinn are different as night and day as far as being the professional face of the franchise goes.
Browns QB Anderson heard the jeers after injury
Posted by Mary Kay Cabot/Plain Dealer Reporter November 30, 2008 20:35PM
Tracy Boulian/The Plain Dealer
As Derek Anderson was helped off the field following his knee injury late in the fourth quarter Sunday afternoon, the oft-maligned Browns quarterback said he could hear some fans cheering his misfortune. In what could be an unceremonious ending to his Browns career, Derek Anderson heard Browns fans cheering when the quarterback went down in the fourth quarter with a damaged left knee ligament that will probably end his season.
"They were cheering the fact that I was hurt," said Anderson after the 10-6 loss to the Colts. "They don't like me. That's well known."
The cheering was not lost on his teammates, who were upset by it. One said it was his lowest point in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
"We care about each other and that was very disappointing," said receiver Josh Cribbs, who could serve as the No. 2 quarterback behind Ken Dorsey next week in Tennesee. "We love our fans, but that just wasn't needed. Hopefully Derek isn't hurt too bad and he'll get back and they can cheer for him the next game."
Anderson suffered the injury with 1:07 remaining when end Robert Mathis beat right tackle Kevin Shaffer on a bull rush for a 10-yard sack. Shaffer's momentum knocked his helmet into Anderson's left knee and then Mathis grabbed Anderson's leg and brought him down.
"I don't remember making any contact," said Shaffer. "I just saw him laying there and knew something was up."
Anderson winced and collapsed when he tried to stand up. He had to be helped off the field by two trainers and was checked on the sidelines. Then he made the long, slow trek to the locker room, propped up by the trainers and limping badly.
"I just felt a burn, the pain," said Anderson. "I'm not really sure what happened. I'm disappointed. I think I sprained the [medial collateral ligament]. I'll get it evaluated and see exactly how bad it is. It doesn't feel very good."
Anderson suffered a mild MCL sprain in college, so he knows what one feels like.
"I did it in the bowl game when we waxed [brady Quinn] and Notre Dame," he said with a laugh.
Anderson's injury came in his first start after being benched for three games in favor of fan favorite Quinn, who's now out for the year with a broken finger. It was his chance to prove that he never should've lost his job in the first place. But with the Browns committing to Quinn as their quarterback of the future, it may have been his last game as a Brown.
"I started playing pretty well before the change was made, which is fine," said Anderson, who slipped to 13-14. "It was unfortunate the way I got put back in there, with Brady getting hurt. I was looking at it as five weeks to get guys going again. I think I did. I think I got the linemen, those guys played their tails off."
He said he also hoped to try to help save Romeo Crennel's job.
"Guys aren't going to give up in here," said Anderson. "We love RAC and we're going to play for RAC. That's the biggest thing these last four weeks, knowing the entire situation."
Anderson's frustration with the season and his lack of support by some fans and media was evident when asked about his strip-sack that resulted in the Colts' game-winning TD.
"[Dwight Freeney] hit me when I was throwing it and it comes out," said Anderson. "I'm not trying to drop balls and lose games for us. I know you guys think that sometimes. I'm giving it everything I've got. I'm obviously frustrated, I'm probably going to be sick about it tonight. We had an opportunity to beat the Colts. Peyton Manning is a guy I've watched and admired. It didn't happen."
The season will now most likely be turned over to Dorsey, who went 2-8 in spot duty in San Francisco, with eight touchdowns and 11 interceptions.
"Dorsey will do a good job," said Anderson. "He's with us every single week. Guys will play for him. The guy won a national championship [with Miami] and lost what, two games in college? He's smart and he knows the offense. I'll let you guys cheer for him."
Anderson, who completed his first seven passes, scoffed at someone's suggestion to start Cribbs at quarterback.
"We're not putting Josh in," said Anderson. "You guys are smoking crack. Because we're playing bad doesn't mean we're going to put a receiver at quarterback."
Said Dorsey: "It's unfortunate for anybody to go down like, but Derek especially, because he's worked extremely hard every week. Even when he's not the starter, he works hard. It was good to see him go out there and get in a rhythm."
Anderson was hoping the fans would cheer him in these last few starts, but not like that.
Didn't catch the game, but I was wondering if it was true the fans cheered when he went down?
so why didn't you catch the game? was it because BQ wasn't starting?did you at least tape it?
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Also, doesn't the crowd always golf clap/ cheer when the injured player gets up and helped off the field upon realizing that it's not another Joe Theisman laying on the ground?
I think DA knows he's done in Cleveland , and he's metastasizing any kind of locker-room cancer he can.
Hold on to that Insight Bowl MVP, so it can pay for drinks at the local Scaappppooooose watering hole.
That's ALOT better than they've treated our last 3 head coaches before RAC - unless all 3 were lying about death threats called into their families at all hours of the night. That's NOT something that will work in our favor if it continues. I don't think anyone TRIES to be disappointing and the SAD thing is we often SCAPEGOAT the entire thing to just the Head Coach because it eases our mind that it's just 1 simple problem solve. Has it been yet?
How did Policy sneak out of town without an ounce of accountability? Now THAT is talent! To this day, I keep hearing Butch Davis is more responsible for WHERE we are at this point than either Phil Savage or Carmen Policy. If so, why do we STILL have Kellen Winslow, Ryan Pontbriand, Sean Jones, Ryan Tucker, Phil Dawson, and Steve Heiden under contract? Why did Savage give Andra Davis a raise?
While Butch SUCKED at playing GM - he didn't HIRE himself did he? In addition, BEFORE he lost the team with the college rah rah stuff we're suddenly pissed at RAC for not having, Davis reversed the 5-27 topl;ayoffs in his 2nd year. During his FIRST year he problem-solved Candybone Brown with Jamir Miller on the edge playing sic em, sock em and sack em. End result? We led the AFC in INTing opposing QBs. The next logical step was to plan our defense around Jamir Miller's strengths in 2002. One problem: he blew out his achilles tendon and his career ended so more problem solving needed to be done and we made the playoffs where Courtney Brown got called for roughing the passer after an incompletion on 3rd and 15 AND Anthony Henry dropped an INT so I heard Butch Davis couldn't coach up the wazoo. How many Pro Bowl players did we have on our 2002 playoff team? I thought the coaching in 2001 and 2002 was the best it's been since we got our team back. I can't say the same for 2003 or any year after that until 2007. Last year the coaching was good in my opinion. However, 2005, 2006 and 2008 - it's been disappointing. Savage NEEDS credit for some of this.
- Tom F.
That's ALOT better than they've treated our last 3 head coaches before RAC - unless all 3 are lying about death threats called in to their familis at all hours of the night.
How did Policy sneak out of town without an ounce of accountability? Now THAT is talent! To this day, I keep hearing Butch Davis is more responsible for WHERE we are at this point than either Phil Savage or Carmen Policy.
While Butch SUCKED at playing GM - he didn't hire himself did he? In addition, BEFORE he lost the team with the college rah rah stuff we're suddenly pissed at RAC for not having, Davis reversed the 5-27 topl;ayoffs in his 2nd year. During his FIRST year he problem-solved Candybone Brown with Jamir Miller on the edge playing sic em, sock em and sack em. End result? We led the AFC in INTing opposing QBs. The next logical step was to plan our defense around Jamir Miller's strengths in 2002. One problem: he blew out his achilles tendon and his career ended so more problem solving needed to be done and we made the playoffs where Courtney Brown got called for roughing the passer after an incompletion on 3rd and 15 AND Anthony Henry dropped an INT so I heard Butch Davis couldn't coach up the wazoo. How many Pro Bowl players did we have on our 2002 playoff team? I thought the coaching in 2001 and 2002 was the best it's been since we got our team back. I can't say the same for 2003 or any year after that until 2007. Last year the coaching was good in my opinion. However, 2005, 2006 and 2008 - it's been disappointing. Savage NEEDS credit for some of this.
- Tom F..
With all due respect, Davis screwed us over. His love-affair with Holcomb was a mistake, trading up with the Lions to draft Winslow was a mistake (we neede o-linemen real, real bad), and treating Jeff Garcia like some rookie was another mistake. I also believe he cast off some O-linemen who are still playing & producing today in the NFL.
I'm not saying Savage is a genius, but he came here (and RAC) and they had to spend $$$ to upgrade our O-line, since Butch left it bare.
IMHO, Davis is just a notch below Modell in Browns history for 'f in up our team.
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I'm hearing from people who actually attended the game that no one heard any cheering for DA's injury.
A friend of mine says the stands were quiet when DA went down, and then there was cheering FOR Dorsey when he came on the field. DA was about at the tunnel entrance at that point and the cheering wasn't directed for him getting hurt, it was in support of Dorsey trotting onto the field.
I was at both yesterdays game and the Tim Couch supposed cheering when he was injured and to be honest, it was hard to tell whether the crowd was cheering the injury, him getting up in one piece, Dorsey/Holcomb trotting onto the field, or all of the above.
The matter should be down played. You shouldn't be such a sissy and get injured and you shouldn't give the home crowd reason to boo your ass anyhow.
Scrap'em off and let's play ball.
I was at both yesterdays game and the Tim Couch supposed cheering when he was injured and to be honest, it was hard to tell whether the crowd was cheering the injury, him getting up in one piece, Dorsey/Holcomb trotting onto the field, or all of the above.
The matter should be down played. You shouldn't be such a sissy and get injured and you shouldn't give the home crowd reason to boo your ass anyhow.
Scrap'em off and let's play ball.
ROTFLMAO! He kills me.
Atenears' resume reads after Bottlegate:
"When Lou Merletti Challenged my ass to Court, I ripped off his head and shit down his neck for the best Judge Judy episode anyone has ever seen. And by the way, Perry Mason's gay."
- Tom F.
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they say a lot about the kind of man he is? that's ridiculous to me. put someone under lights and scrutinize him at his lowest moment of frustration.@hiwaygal said:
However, it's obvious DA is bitter and frustrated. If you are a professional there are just things that you DON'T say to the media or people outside of the inner circle...and he crossed that line. The things he said were unprofessional and say a lot about the kind of man he is.But here's hoping for as speedy a recovery as possible...and a future somewhere where he can be happy.
with all due respect HWG judging others says a lot about us. the most those words say about the kind of man he is is that he's a football player>>guys who don't have time for interviews or ties with vests, outdoor and game analysis shows etc because they're focusing on the game of football. interviews are a consession he affords us, a privilege not a right.
that guy was carrrying that crap around with him every day. i'm glad for him he was able to let a little out.
football isn't a game for pussies no pun intended. just let the guy vent a little, he's human.
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Why is it any big deal if the remaining fans cheered an injured Anderson? Can you blame them? At least they stayed around after watching 2 1/2 hours of minimal offense in a cold rain. Then what little chance they have at seeing a rare home win goes right out the door when Anderson fumbles the ball away.
I'm willing to bet that had Romeo keeled over from a heart attack they would have cheered even louder, and if Savage slipped and fell out of his seat they would have cheered louder still.
It's nothing but a sick joke on this town to have an inferior QB stay healthy the entire time when we'd rather see Quinn play. Then as soon as Quinn gets hurt DA goes down? Unbelievable.
I hope someone holds Shaffer accountable for that play, in this life or the next. Allowing a smaller man to bull rush you into your QB is ridiculous.
Why is it any big deal if the remaining fans cheered an injured Anderson? Can you blame them? At least they stayed around after watching 2 1/2 hours of minimal offense in a cold rain. Then what little chance they have at seeing a rare home win goes right out the door when Anderson fumbles the ball away.
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they say a lot about the kind of man he is? that's ridiculous to me. put someone under lights and scrutinize him at his lowest moment of frustration.@hiwaygal said:
However, it's obvious DA is bitter and frustrated. If you are a professional there are just things that you DON'T say to the media or people outside of the inner circle...and he crossed that line. The things he said were unprofessional and say a lot about the kind of man he is.But here's hoping for as speedy a recovery as possible...and a future somewhere where he can be happy.
with all due respect HWG judging others says a lot about us. the most those words say about the kind of man he is is that he's a football player>>guys who don't have time for interviews or ties with vests, outdoor and game analysis shows etc because they're focusing on the game of football. interviews are a consession he affords us, a privilege not a right.
that guy was carrrying that crap around with him every day. i'm glad for him he was able to let a little out.
football isn't a game for pussies no pun intended. just let the guy vent a little, he's human.
they say a lot about the kind of man he is? that's ridiculous to me. put someone under lights and scrutinize him at his lowest moment of frustration.
with all due respect HWG judging others says a lot about us. the most those words say about the kind of man he is is that he's a football player>>guys who don't have time for interviews or ties with vests, outdoor and game analysis shows etc because they're focusing on the game of football. interviews are a consession he affords us, a privilege not a right.
that guy was carrrying that crap around with him every day. i'm glad for him he was able to let a little out.
football isn't a game for pussies no pun intended. just let the guy vent a little, he's human.
Sisky getting a little frisky and coming out of the gate hitting someone today ... I love this shit. We need more ass kicking around here and less faggotry.
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Didn't catch the game, but I was wondering if it was true the fans cheered when he went down?
As an aside, I feel bad for Anderson getting jeered if that's what happened, but, man, he is unprofessional. Taking credit for the play of the linemen, offering excuses for his own poor play, needling the fans' love of Quinn--and Quinn himself--by pointing out that he 'waxed' Notre Dame once, and then topping it off by saying the press corp is 'smoking crack'. He and Quinn are different as night and day as far as being the professional face of the franchise goes.
Browns QB Anderson heard the jeers after injury
Posted by Mary Kay Cabot/Plain Dealer Reporter November 30, 2008 20:35PM
Tracy Boulian/The Plain Dealer
As Derek Anderson was helped off the field following his knee injury late in the fourth quarter Sunday afternoon, the oft-maligned Browns quarterback said he could hear some fans cheering his misfortune. In what could be an unceremonious ending to his Browns career, Derek Anderson heard Browns fans cheering when the quarterback went down in the fourth quarter with a damaged left knee ligament that will probably end his season.
"They were cheering the fact that I was hurt," said Anderson after the 10-6 loss to the Colts. "They don't like me. That's well known."
The cheering was not lost on his teammates, who were upset by it. One said it was his lowest point in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
"We care about each other and that was very disappointing," said receiver Josh Cribbs, who could serve as the No. 2 quarterback behind Ken Dorsey next week in Tennesee. "We love our fans, but that just wasn't needed. Hopefully Derek isn't hurt too bad and he'll get back and they can cheer for him the next game."
Anderson suffered the injury with 1:07 remaining when end Robert Mathis beat right tackle Kevin Shaffer on a bull rush for a 10-yard sack. Shaffer's momentum knocked his helmet into Anderson's left knee and then Mathis grabbed Anderson's leg and brought him down.
"I don't remember making any contact," said Shaffer. "I just saw him laying there and knew something was up."
Anderson winced and collapsed when he tried to stand up. He had to be helped off the field by two trainers and was checked on the sidelines. Then he made the long, slow trek to the locker room, propped up by the trainers and limping badly.
"I just felt a burn, the pain," said Anderson. "I'm not really sure what happened. I'm disappointed. I think I sprained the [medial collateral ligament]. I'll get it evaluated and see exactly how bad it is. It doesn't feel very good."
Anderson suffered a mild MCL sprain in college, so he knows what one feels like.
"I did it in the bowl game when we waxed [brady Quinn] and Notre Dame," he said with a laugh.
Anderson's injury came in his first start after being benched for three games in favor of fan favorite Quinn, who's now out for the year with a broken finger. It was his chance to prove that he never should've lost his job in the first place. But with the Browns committing to Quinn as their quarterback of the future, it may have been his last game as a Brown.
"I started playing pretty well before the change was made, which is fine," said Anderson, who slipped to 13-14. "It was unfortunate the way I got put back in there, with Brady getting hurt. I was looking at it as five weeks to get guys going again. I think I did. I think I got the linemen, those guys played their tails off."
He said he also hoped to try to help save Romeo Crennel's job.
"Guys aren't going to give up in here," said Anderson. "We love RAC and we're going to play for RAC. That's the biggest thing these last four weeks, knowing the entire situation."
Anderson's frustration with the season and his lack of support by some fans and media was evident when asked about his strip-sack that resulted in the Colts' game-winning TD.
"[Dwight Freeney] hit me when I was throwing it and it comes out," said Anderson. "I'm not trying to drop balls and lose games for us. I know you guys think that sometimes. I'm giving it everything I've got. I'm obviously frustrated, I'm probably going to be sick about it tonight. We had an opportunity to beat the Colts. Peyton Manning is a guy I've watched and admired. It didn't happen."
The season will now most likely be turned over to Dorsey, who went 2-8 in spot duty in San Francisco, with eight touchdowns and 11 interceptions.
"Dorsey will do a good job," said Anderson. "He's with us every single week. Guys will play for him. The guy won a national championship [with Miami] and lost what, two games in college? He's smart and he knows the offense. I'll let you guys cheer for him."
Anderson, who completed his first seven passes, scoffed at someone's suggestion to start Cribbs at quarterback.
"We're not putting Josh in," said Anderson. "You guys are smoking crack. Because we're playing bad doesn't mean we're going to put a receiver at quarterback."
Said Dorsey: "It's unfortunate for anybody to go down like, but Derek especially, because he's worked extremely hard every week. Even when he's not the starter, he works hard. It was good to see him go out there and get in a rhythm."
Anderson was hoping the fans would cheer him in these last few starts, but not like that.
Didn't catch the game, but I was wondering if it was true the fans cheered when he went down?
I hope your grandmothers funeral was nice, that the only reason for not "catching the game"
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my take on this entire season comes back to the fan's perception that we were making a run.
we thrust those expectations upon this team but they simply weren't ready for it yet.
last year wasn't a flash in the pan. a mirage? nope.
last year we were a blocked field goal (OAK) and a short field goal (PIT) from 12-4....hell we were an inbounds K2 leg from beating Arizona.....our D was the prototype the giants used for beating the patriots perfect season!!!!!
they just aren't complete. not consistent, not healthy. just good, not great.
i hope i have finally learned not to count my chix b4 they hatch. i told myself i'd stop that YEARS ago.
i finally accept we're rebuilding. we finally have a foundation.
but we're impatient. instead of counting years an administration has had, we count back how many years since a championship! this is (only) year 4, and we're closer than i can remember, but frankly some of our guys playing shouldn't be starting.
if everyone on IR etc comes back healthy that would help next year tremendously. if not, we're probably 10 positions away or more.
all our losses this year are to a who's who of the NFL--we've been in damn near every game.
and that's with no joe jurivicius. no #2 WR! that's nuts. if we had joe J, ryan tucker, robaire smith and a healthy d-line, and both safeties at 100% all year some of those "L's" would certainly be "W's".
anybody else miss Camp Peterson? damn. hindsight is 20/20. still, we're definitely better than '06.
bottom-line is we aren't goin anywhere long-term with these starters.
close but no cigars--kinda like the 80's.
the guys who make the starters into backups will be the ones to take us all the way........and hopefully keep us there for years to come.
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they say a lot about the kind of man he is? that's ridiculous to me. put someone under lights and scrutinize him at his lowest moment of frustration.@hiwaygal said:
However, it's obvious DA is bitter and frustrated. If you are a professional there are just things that you DON'T say to the media or people outside of the inner circle...and he crossed that line. The things he said were unprofessional and say a lot about the kind of man he is.But here's hoping for as speedy a recovery as possible...and a future somewhere where he can be happy.
with all due respect HWG judging others says a lot about us. the most those words say about the kind of man he is is that he's a football player>>guys who don't have time for interviews or ties with vests, outdoor and game analysis shows etc because they're focusing on the game of football. interviews are a consession he affords us, a privilege not a right.
that guy was carrrying that crap around with him every day. i'm glad for him he was able to let a little out.
football isn't a game for pussies no pun intended. just let the guy vent a little, he's human.
>guys who don't have time for interviews or ties with vests, outdoor and game analysis shows etc because they're focusing on the game of football. interviews are a consession he affords us, a privilege not a right.
that guy was carrrying that crap around with him every day. i'm glad for him he was able to let a little out.
football isn't a game for pussies no pun intended. just let the guy vent a little, he's human.
Sure. I'll be sure to remind my customers next time they request a meeting with me that when they happen to be graced with my presence, it's a "privilege, not a right."
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I think it's very sad that America rated the Browns as the worse fans in the NFL. I thought Phillie had that position wrapped up.
Is it possible to sink lower then worse? Maybe behind some of those Futbol teams in Italia?
I am just wondering where the team will move next?
Portland maybe? Toronto? I hear L.A. is looking for a team?
Even the players don't want to play there anymore. How sad, good luck while crying for another team because the CFL doesn't play in America anymore. Oh wait, how bout we start a team in the AFL? The Cleveland Browns...or will Lerner take the team name and colors to the new city?
Advice for all those idiots that either were booing or didn't show up because they are fair weather fans...
If I were the Browns fans I would start showing up for the games and treat the team with respect. Treat each game as if it's an elimination game.
Come to think of it the next game is an elimation game....enjoy.
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You know why the fans are the way they are? Because this freakin' organization hasn't put a contender on the field in 20 years. You change this team, and you will have better fans. The fanbase has changed, but thats in thanks to the organization. The season ticket holders?....they're selling their tickets to any fool they can find to go down and watch the 3 ring circus that we call an NFL team. I don't blame Rogers for being pissed, the defense pulled off a rare miracle in holding manning from a TD...and we still lost.
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You know why the fans are the way they are? Because this freakin' organization hasn't put a contender on the field in 20 years. You change this team, and you will have better fans. The fanbase has changed, but thats in thanks to the organization. The season ticket holders?....they're selling their tickets to any fool they can find to go down and watch the 3 ring circus that we call an NFL team. I don't blame Rogers for being pissed, the defense pulled off a rare miracle in holding manning from a TD...and we still lost.
You know why the fans are the way they are? Because this freakin' organization hasn't put a contender on the field in 20 years. You change this team, and you will have better fans. The fanbase has changed, but thats in thanks to the organization. The season ticket holders?....they're selling their tickets to any fool they can find to go down and watch the 3 ring circus that we call an NFL team. I don't blame Rogers for being pissed, the defense pulled off a rare miracle in holding manning from a TD...and we still lost.
In the NFL, you support your team win or lose. You can let known your displeasures within management without taking it out on the players on the field.
Do you really think they want to be known as the city of losers? I seriously doubt that, but things just haven't gone their way this year and their early season schedule was just brutal....
but either way you support your team win or lose....
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