Top 2nd round picks according to Nationalfootballpost.com
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Nice post.
These guys might not have been the big names, but coming from established roles at big time schools will be a plus. I still don't get the Veikune pick from last year....seems like Mangini learned his lesson though and drafted some real players. Save the projects for later on.
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Unfortunately it sounds like the Steelers got a real stud for pass-rushing, as if they needed that a ton...
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I think what I like the most about the article is that the fella talks about Ward's 'instinct' when all we've been hearing is how the kid can hit. Now I'm no Phil Savage but isn't instinct and hard hitting what makes Poulamalu so damn good? You can't go wrong with those two attributes. Oh, and the fact that he only highlited 6 players and two of them were ours, that makes me feel pretty damn good!
PS. F**K Pittsburgh!
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I think what I like the most about the article is that the fella talks about Ward's 'instinct' when all we've been hearing is how the kid can hit. Now I'm no Phil Savage but isn't instinct and hard hitting what makes Poulamalu so damn good? You can't go wrong with those two attributes. Oh, and the fact that he only highlited 6 players and two of them were ours, that makes me feel pretty damn good!
PS. F**K Pittsburgh!
I think what I like the most about the article is that the fella talks about Ward's 'instinct' when all we've been hearing is how the kid can hit. Now I'm no Phil Savage but isn't instinct and hard hitting what makes Poulamalu so damn good? You can't go wrong with those two attributes. Oh, and the fact that he only highlited 6 players and two of them were ours, that makes me feel pretty damn good!
PS. F**K Pittsburgh!
Troy Polamalu is a hell of a lot more than instinct and hard hitting. If it were that easy there would already be 10 Troy Polamalu's in the league.
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I think what I like the most about the article is that the fella talks about Ward's 'instinct' when all we've been hearing is how the kid can hit. Now I'm no Phil Savage but isn't instinct and hard hitting what makes Poulamalu so damn good? You can't go wrong with those two attributes. Oh, and the fact that he only highlited 6 players and two of them were ours, that makes me feel pretty damn good!
PS. F**K Pittsburgh!
Troy Polamalu is a hell of a lot more than instinct and hard hitting. If it were that easy there would already be 10 Troy Polamalu's in the league.
Rorbotron said:
Troy Polamalu is a hell of a lot more than instinct and hard hitting. If it were that easy there would already be 10 Troy Polamalu's in the league.I'm sure there is more to him like smarts, heart, and effort; but I'm making a generalization. Getting a hard hitter with instinct isn't as easy as it sounds. The only ones left that I can think of are
Sharper
Reed
Troy
Bob Sanders
If there are more go ahead and add them but my point is, Ward seems like he has all the basic, god-given abilities to be a great Safety. Much like Troy who despite my hatred of the Steelers, may be the best safety I have ever seen play when he's 100%. Jon Lynch changed the position once, and Troy has done it again. Ward along with Eric Berry might be the first generation of that new evolution. I sure hope so.
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Excellent thread! Didn't many have Hardesty and Ward going in the 3rd round simply because of injury concerns? If they stay healthy, these players should easily have strong 2nd round value, I would think. I mean, if Holmgren, Heckert, and Mangini like them that much (giving up picks in Hardesty's case), I'm sure they've got amazing potential.
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Rorbotron said:
Troy Polamalu is a hell of a lot more than instinct and hard hitting. If it were that easy there would already be 10 Troy Polamalu's in the league.I'm sure there is more to him like smarts, heart, and effort; but I'm making a generalization. Getting a hard hitter with instinct isn't as easy as it sounds. The only ones left that I can think of are
Sharper
Reed
Troy
Bob Sanders
If there are more go ahead and add them but my point is, Ward seems like he has all the basic, god-given abilities to be a great Safety. Much like Troy who despite my hatred of the Steelers, may be the best safety I have ever seen play when he's 100%. Jon Lynch changed the position once, and Troy has done it again. Ward along with Eric Berry might be the first generation of that new evolution. I sure hope so.
I'm sure there is more to him like smarts, heart, and effort; but I'm making a generalization. Getting a hard hitter with instinct isn't as easy as it sounds. The only ones left that I can think of are
Sharper
Reed
Troy
Bob Sanders
If there are more go ahead and add them but my point is, Ward seems like he has all the basic, god-given abilities to be a great Safety. Much like Troy who despite my hatred of the Steelers, may be the best safety I have ever seen play when he's 100%. Jon Lynch changed the position once, and Troy has done it again. Ward along with Eric Berry might be the first generation of that new evolution. I sure hope so.
And freakish athletic ability but I do agree with your post. I just think that Troy Steeler or not is on a entirely different wave length when healthy. He makes and has made some absolutely absurd plays over the years. He's a RARE, RARE breed.
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It doesn't matter what people say about these guys, pro or con. It only matters what they do on the field.
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Rorbotron said:
Troy Polamalu is a hell of a lot more than instinct and hard hitting. If it were that easy there would already be 10 Troy Polamalu's in the league.I'm sure there is more to him like smarts, heart, and effort; but I'm making a generalization. Getting a hard hitter with instinct isn't as easy as it sounds. The only ones left that I can think of are
Sharper
Reed
Troy
Bob Sanders
If there are more go ahead and add them but my point is, Ward seems like he has all the basic, god-given abilities to be a great Safety. Much like Troy who despite my hatred of the Steelers, may be the best safety I have ever seen play when he's 100%. Jon Lynch changed the position once, and Troy has done it again. Ward along with Eric Berry might be the first generation of that new evolution. I sure hope so.
I'm sure there is more to him like smarts, heart, and effort; but I'm making a generalization. Getting a hard hitter with instinct isn't as easy as it sounds. The only ones left that I can think of are
Sharper
Reed
Troy
Bob Sanders
If there are more go ahead and add them but my point is, Ward seems like he has all the basic, god-given abilities to be a great Safety. Much like Troy who despite my hatred of the Steelers, may be the best safety I have ever seen play when he's 100%. Jon Lynch changed the position once, and Troy has done it again. Ward along with Eric Berry might be the first generation of that new evolution. I sure hope so.
I think of Sharper more of a ball hawk then a hard hitting safety but thats just me.
Also its nice that this website gave some praise to the Browns but its a no frills website. For all you know the guy who wrote the article and/or runs this website (nationalfootballpost.com) is a Browns homer. It would be a lot cooler and credible if it were coming from ESPN, TSN, SI, or a site with some credibity. Personally I hope Ward pans out, but I think he was a huge stretch where he was selected and I won't be suprised if he is a bust.
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After years and years of 2nd round guys that haven't contributed much (Thompson, Pool, Veikune, Jones) it will be refreshing to see TWO guys come in and contribute if Hardesty and Ward can live up to this guy's expectations.
I'll admit that I wasn't exactly thrilled with these two picks at the time. I wanted Golden Tate when we grabbed Ward and I was surprised to see the Browns trade away 3 picks to get Hardesty.
But then I went to the videotape. And I read the articles. And I listened to the Trinity's words about these guys.
Folks, we have some football players on our hands with Ward and Hardesty. Ward will be a presence in the run game and will be a headhunter over the middle as well. We haven't had a run-stopping safety for a loooong time and the last headhunter we had was probably Brian Russell who certainly was no Ed Reed. And Hardesty, holy crap is his highlight reel impressive. I've been telling my buddies who are Browns and Buckeyes fans that Hardesty is Beanie Wells without the fumbling. The running style is eerily similar to that of Wells: Downhill, ability to make guys miss in the open field, gets stronger as the game wears on.
I said before the draft that the second day would make or break the future of this team and regime. There was no question we were going to get an impact player at #7 with our needs (Berry or Haden or Thomas), but where we went from there was extremely important. Well, on Day 2 we got a starter at safety, a big cold-weather RB, a versatile offensive lineman who'll eventually start, and a QB that won about 45 games and completed over 70% of his passes in college. Not bad. Not bad at all.
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