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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

    1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

    2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

    3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

    4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

    5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

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    TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

    1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

    B+

    2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

    Somewhat agree. Talent is influenced, but not controlled.

    3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

    Vancouver!!!

    4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

    I hope so. But I think our offense will rely on our running game this year. So it will be hard to tell.

    5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

    Atlanta Hawks or Utah Jazz

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      S Speedyd900rr wrote on last edited by Speedyd900rr
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      Hey Lebrent, This is what you said.

      I disagree. Phil Jackson doesn't make game-winning shots. Basketball, above any other team sport, is a players game.

      Then you said this

      But basically, if the Cavs don't win it will be devastating. They are so deep they can beat anyone with any style. Small, big, fast, shooting, you name it. If we don't win this year I'm blaming the coach.

      Why is Basketball a players game until they lose then it's the coaches fault? Im just curious to see the reasoning behind this because it doesn't make sense.

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        Hey Lebrent, This is what you said.

        I disagree. Phil Jackson doesn't make game-winning shots. Basketball, above any other team sport, is a players game.

        Then you said this

        But basically, if the Cavs don't win it will be devastating. They are so deep they can beat anyone with any style. Small, big, fast, shooting, you name it. If we don't win this year I'm blaming the coach.

        Why is Basketball a players game until they lose then it's the coaches fault? Im just curious to see the reasoning behind this because it doesn't make sense.

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        @speedyd900rr said:

        Hey Lebrent, This is what you said.

        I disagree. Phil Jackson doesn't make game-winning shots. Basketball, above any other team sport, is a players game.

        Then you said this

        But basically, if the Cavs don't win it will be devastating. They are so deep they can beat anyone with any style. Small, big, fast, shooting, you name it. If we don't win this year I'm blaming the coach.

        Why is Basketball a players game until they lose then it's the coaches fault? Im just curious to see the reasoning behind this because it doesn't make sense.

        First off I think Mike Brown is a good coach and the first thing he did when he got here was establish an identity.

        If he has a weakness, though, it's in game adjustments. Sometimes he is stubborn. For instance, in the Boston game #1 I think it took him too long to put in Hickson and Varejao. We need to run on Boston. Shaq is good to put in there and pick up some fouls on Boston's big guys but he slows us down.

        We have so much depth that we can play any style. Against Boston that style needs to be athletic and fast. That's why Atlanta gives Boston so much trouble.

        It's up to the coach to play the right players in the right situations. Phil Jackson is very good at this obviously, but it's not a tough decision to play MJ and Scottie or Shaq and Kobe.

        Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

        I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

          1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

          2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

          3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

          4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

          5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

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          B Browns57 wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

          1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

          C+

          2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

          Agree. Thats why the Cavs haven't won. Mike Brown sucks

          3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

          Do they still play hockey? Really?

          4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

          He has never been as good as Warner so no.

          5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

          Utah Jazz. But come on?

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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

            1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

            2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

            3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

            4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

            5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

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            Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by Bob806
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            @the-gipper said:

            Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

            1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

            B....I wanted a mean-ass pass rush, but will trust the front office.

            2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

            Disagree- let's see Phil Jackson coach a team without a superstar. He never has.

            3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

            Vancouver Canucks

            4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

            No, highly unlikely.

            5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

            Utah Jazz

            In regards to Phil Jackson, I will give him some credit with the Bulls, mainly because they never had a dominant center (Bill Cartwright). Could he coach a team like today's Minnesota TWolves and rise them up from the dead? I doubt it.

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            • L LeBrent

              @speedyd900rr said:

              Hey Lebrent, This is what you said.

              I disagree. Phil Jackson doesn't make game-winning shots. Basketball, above any other team sport, is a players game.

              Then you said this

              But basically, if the Cavs don't win it will be devastating. They are so deep they can beat anyone with any style. Small, big, fast, shooting, you name it. If we don't win this year I'm blaming the coach.

              Why is Basketball a players game until they lose then it's the coaches fault? Im just curious to see the reasoning behind this because it doesn't make sense.

              First off I think Mike Brown is a good coach and the first thing he did when he got here was establish an identity.

              If he has a weakness, though, it's in game adjustments. Sometimes he is stubborn. For instance, in the Boston game #1 I think it took him too long to put in Hickson and Varejao. We need to run on Boston. Shaq is good to put in there and pick up some fouls on Boston's big guys but he slows us down.

              We have so much depth that we can play any style. Against Boston that style needs to be athletic and fast. That's why Atlanta gives Boston so much trouble.

              It's up to the coach to play the right players in the right situations. Phil Jackson is very good at this obviously, but it's not a tough decision to play MJ and Scottie or Shaq and Kobe.

              Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

              I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

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              @lebrent said:

              Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

              I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

              I think the point is that they needed each other to win the championships. being a great individual player does not help that much toward winning a championship

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

                1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

                2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

                3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

                4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

                5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                @the-gipper said:

                Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

                1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

                Never grade a draft this soon, especially with a couple of injury risks in it.

                2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

                Nope, absolutely not. MJ would still have been MJ, LeBron would still be LeBron. Now you could argue about the # of championships they might win. ๐Ÿ™‚

                3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

                Red Wings, I'll admit it I'm a fan and biased.

                4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

                Extremely doubtful.

                5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

                Spurs, I'd root for the Jazz if traitor Boozer weren't playing for them. Atlanta would be fine but I only give them a snowball's chance in hell of upsetting the Magic.

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                • L LeBrent

                  @speedyd900rr said:

                  Hey Lebrent, This is what you said.

                  I disagree. Phil Jackson doesn't make game-winning shots. Basketball, above any other team sport, is a players game.

                  Then you said this

                  But basically, if the Cavs don't win it will be devastating. They are so deep they can beat anyone with any style. Small, big, fast, shooting, you name it. If we don't win this year I'm blaming the coach.

                  Why is Basketball a players game until they lose then it's the coaches fault? Im just curious to see the reasoning behind this because it doesn't make sense.

                  First off I think Mike Brown is a good coach and the first thing he did when he got here was establish an identity.

                  If he has a weakness, though, it's in game adjustments. Sometimes he is stubborn. For instance, in the Boston game #1 I think it took him too long to put in Hickson and Varejao. We need to run on Boston. Shaq is good to put in there and pick up some fouls on Boston's big guys but he slows us down.

                  We have so much depth that we can play any style. Against Boston that style needs to be athletic and fast. That's why Atlanta gives Boston so much trouble.

                  It's up to the coach to play the right players in the right situations. Phil Jackson is very good at this obviously, but it's not a tough decision to play MJ and Scottie or Shaq and Kobe.

                  Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

                  I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

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                  S Speedyd900rr wrote on last edited by Speedyd900rr
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                  @lebrent said:

                  First off I think Mike Brown is a good coach and the first thing he did when he got here was establish an identity.

                  If he has a weakness, though, it's in game adjustments. Sometimes he is stubborn. For instance, in the Boston game #1 I think it took him too long to put in Hickson and Varejao. We need to run on Boston. Shaq is good to put in there and pick up some fouls on Boston's big guys but he slows us down.

                  We have so much depth that we can play any style. Against Boston that style needs to be athletic and fast. That's why Atlanta gives Boston so much trouble.

                  It's up to the coach to play the right players in the right situations. Phil Jackson is very good at this obviously, but it's not a tough decision to play MJ and Scottie or Shaq and Kobe.

                  Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

                  I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

                  I think Brown should of been gone a long time ago. I always get this feeling that no matter they do they're still missing that one piece that will allow them to win it all and I hate to say it but that one piece is the coach. It just seem's like he always chokes during the playoff's and screwes it all up.

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                    @lebrent said:

                    First off I think Mike Brown is a good coach and the first thing he did when he got here was establish an identity.

                    If he has a weakness, though, it's in game adjustments. Sometimes he is stubborn. For instance, in the Boston game #1 I think it took him too long to put in Hickson and Varejao. We need to run on Boston. Shaq is good to put in there and pick up some fouls on Boston's big guys but he slows us down.

                    We have so much depth that we can play any style. Against Boston that style needs to be athletic and fast. That's why Atlanta gives Boston so much trouble.

                    It's up to the coach to play the right players in the right situations. Phil Jackson is very good at this obviously, but it's not a tough decision to play MJ and Scottie or Shaq and Kobe.

                    Do I think Phil Jackson is a good coach, of course. Do I give him some of the credit for his championships, yes. But could he have won 10 championships had he coached poor players, absolutely not.

                    I agree with you that some coaches don't get the credit they deserve but I think Gipper is giving Jackson too much credit.

                    I think Brown should of been gone a long time ago. I always get this feeling that no matter they do they're still missing that one piece that will allow them to win it all and I hate to say it but that one piece is the coach. It just seem's like he always chokes during the playoff's and screwes it all up.

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                    @speedyd900rr said:

                    I think Brown should of been gone a long time ago. I always get this feeling that no matter they do they're still missing that one piece that will allow them to win it all and I hate to say it but that one piece is the coach. It just seem's like he always chokes during the playoff's and screwes it all up.

                    Last night was evidense of that. It wasn't all Brown's fault but WHY AREN'T WE RUNNING? How come we don't start running until we get down by 10? It is so frusterating!

                    Brown needs to get us going. He is horrible at in-game adjustments. For some reason he has this belief that you can't run in the playoffs. We were down 25 last night, finally got aggressive, and scored 15 unnanswered.

                    We are clearly the better team and I still think we can win the next three games but we can't play Boston's game.

                    Last night sucked ๐Ÿ˜  .

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                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                      Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

                      1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

                      2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

                      3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

                      4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

                      5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

                      1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

                      Fundamentally, I like what they did in the draft. With all drafts, however, I have to give it an, "Incomplete".

                      2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

                      Here's the way I look at it: Without Michael Jordan or without O'Neill and Bryant, Phil Jackson would be George Karl - a decent, if not spectacular NBA HC.

                      3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

                      What is the Stanley Cup?

                      4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

                      No. Too old. Warner was something special. He is a welcomed addition to the team despite most pundits questioning why Holmgren gave him so much guaranteed money.

                      I simply hope he becomes another Gary Danielson.

                      5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

                      I want the Celtics to win but I'm biased in the same way yous guys are.

                      "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Here is this week's survey. Give your opinions:

                        1. OK, after a couple of week's to let it sink in, what grade would you give the Browns draft?

                        B....I wanted a mean-ass pass rush, but will trust the front office.

                        2. Here is a theory of mine: Without Coach Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan would have been, say, Clyde Drexler. With Phil Jackson, Clyde Drexler would have been Michael Jordan. Without Coach Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant would be say, Allen Iverson. With Coach Phil Jackson, Allen Iverson would have been say, Kobe Bryant. When MJ and Kobe did not have Phil as their coach, they didn't win anything. They only won with him as their coach. The key component to both the Bulls and Lakers success was the coach, not the players. Agree or not?

                        Disagree- let's see Phil Jackson coach a team without a superstar. He never has.

                        3. The following teams are left in the NHL playoffs: Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Redwings, Chicago Blackhawks, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks. Who would you prefer to win the Stanley Cup?

                        Vancouver Canucks

                        4. Will Jake Delhomme resurrect his career say, in the order that Kurt Warner did?

                        No, highly unlikely.

                        5. The following teams are left in the NBA playoffs: Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Atlanta Hawks, LA Lakers, Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Utah Jazz. Let's assume everyone here, for the most part want the Cavs to win. However, if the Cavs were not to win, who besides them would you prefer to win the title?

                        Utah Jazz

                        In regards to Phil Jackson, I will give him some credit with the Bulls, mainly because they never had a dominant center (Bill Cartwright). Could he coach a team like today's Minnesota TWolves and rise them up from the dead? I doubt it.

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                        @bob806 said:

                        In regards to Phil Jackson, I will give him some credit with the Bulls, mainly because they never had a dominant center (Bill Cartwright). Could he coach a team like today's Minnesota TWolves and rise them up from the dead? I doubt it.

                        I will say this: Phil Jackson has had more success without Jordan and Bryant than they have had without him. He made several NBA or conference finals without either of those players. They never made it without him, to my knowledge.

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