Massaquoi must step up!
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I agree Choco....I think Delomme is good enough to lob it up in a place where MoMass has a shot at catching it.
I don't think receiver is going to be a big negative on this team.
It may not be a positive, but i don't think it is going to hurt us.
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not gonna happen....signing a vet, that is.
I think it works opposite. Teams will stack the box, we'll go over the top. They'll back off eventually. Now that we have a qb that can actually throw.
not gonna happen....signing a vet, that is.
I think it works opposite. Teams will stack the box, we'll go over the top. They'll back off eventually. Now that we have a qb that can actually throw.
Coming from a team that had two good backs and Steve Smith who is always at least double covered, Delhomme had a terrible season. The only thing that is better on this offense is the line. Now I know that the line is very important. But if we are going to be successful on offense we need at least two receiving threats. And here is why I say that.
First we only won 5 games last year.
and in 8 games we ran for over 100 yards, and in 5 games we ran for over 150. Only 2 two of these defenses were ranked in the top 10 against the run. Pittsburgh (but we did this when they were tanking at the end of the season) and Cincinnati.
The others were:
Jags 19th
Raiders 29th
Chiefs 31st
Chargers 20th
Detroit 25th
Bills 30th
So when you look closely you see that in the 5 games that we won we ran for over 150 yards in each one. We lost every game in which we failed to reach 150 yards rushing.
Every team will realize this and they will indeed stack the box. So if you assume that delhomme will be accurate and not throwing picks, who will he be throwing to? We better hope that cribbs learns how to run routes, or that Massoqiu(sp) learns how to catch. Or our draft pick is the next Percy Harvin. Because without the receiving threats the box will remained stacked and we will again only win when we play weak rushing defenses and go for over 150 yards.
Don't take this the wrong way I want the Browns to win every game. But I see this as a big problem that wasn't fixed in the off season when the Browns failed to land any good FA WR, or trade for one.
And please don't any of you Buckeye homers even try to tell me that Robiske will somehow be great this year. He completely sucked last year.
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There were a crap load of drops last year, the Buffalo game was the worst I think. I think our WR's will surprise this year. Robo will come around, Im sure he got an earful from his dad this past offseason. The wr from South Fl is going to be a great addition to this core, he is tall and strong and can fly, he has great football speed. Also the good thing this year we have some better TE's that can catch. We will be a lot better than last year. The only thing that really sucks is that Cincy and Baltimore got really good at WR and TE, so if the D dont hold up to well we will have to score 30 a game like in 2007-2008
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Receiver was a huge problem last year. As much as I was happy to see Edwards go, it sure made it rough for Mass having to become the #1 his rookie year. He'll be better, but I bet he'll still struggle at times, especially if the offense is changing as much as we suspect. I look at receiver to be a 2-3 year work in progress.
I agree that bringing in an established vet would be a good idea, if it doesn't happen they're be days that people here are shaking their heads at the receiver play.
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its slim pickins out there folks, hence my comments. We've shown no interest in any of them. None...
Age has hampered every single one. Let's say for arguments sake that we bring in the vet....no a single one out tjere is a burner...so we're only getting a posession receiver wr ar best. I have flashbacks of donte..
either injuries would creep up or production will be no better than 40 catches.
So what does that buy us? Anyone think defensesfear those dinosaurs still available? On the year when wr's start to come into their own, we're advocating taking away experience...catches...which will only delay our young receiving corps devrlopment.
We've always done thus...feeling young guys can't get it done. And we've been gettingvour asses handed to us the past ten years. Many of you severely overrate the need of vets at every single position on the field. Its not necessary. Let momass, biske, and Mitchell get on the field, take their lumps, and gain the tome they need to become the threat uou tjink we'll get from the highly coveted vet.
This is why we suck every year....even when we make a decent pick, coaches as well as fans have no patience to develope the young guys. Good teams in this league win by drafting and developing those picks....advocating this win now move is even dumber since we're not really a contender. If anyone thinks we're a wr away from winning, get your head checked. Mangini is gonna develop our youth...not waste time and money on players that should've retired 2 years ago.
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Not to mention the #1 doesn't have to be a wide out....it can be a TE.
Both Watson and Moore have the ability to work the seam and occupy a safety.
Teams may be able to stack the box some, but the TE's will be able to keep them honest by working routes 20 years down field.
Some around here are acting like the safeties will be able to play run only and not worry about covering players....add in the fact we have backs that can catch the ball and do something with it and we will be able to move the ball in the air.
By seasons end, Delomme will have around 3000 passing yards.
Does it really matter who is catching the ball???
I say no, it doesn't.
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Currently IMHO there is no free agent WRs worth their price vs skill, We have momass and robo who should both turn it up this year we have stuckey plus cribbs if needed and now mitchell not to mention 6 TEs so im quite comfortable with what we have its more a matter of if they develop and flourish under dabolls plan, In my mind daboll and his playbook will be the determining factor in the equation more than the starting QB and WRs..
Mangini has all the moving parts he thinks he needs to truly get the ball moving forward so lets watch it all unfold and while i dont yet fully know what dabolls battleplan is..i tend to believe we are going to be a real force on the ground and will pass the ball fairly successfully when needed because of it,regardless of who starts at QB or catches the ball as long as they catch it...
I believe MH will play a larger part than most fans would be able to comprehend in developing both mangini and daboll these guys seem to have a real trust and patience problem with developing/trrusting certain positions/players and that could be detrimental to the club if not corrected and MH should be an incredible asset to them both in resolving/enhancing many of their coaching abilities and improving their shortcomings to make the whole club better for it ...
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Currently IMHO there is no free agent WRs worth their price vs skill, We have momass and robo who should both turn it up this year we have stuckey plus cribbs if needed and now mitchell not to mention 6 TEs so im quite comfortable with what we have its more a matter of if they develop and flourish under dabolls plan, In my mind daboll and his playbook will be the determining factor in the equation more than the starting QB and WRs..
Mangini has all the moving parts he thinks he needs to truly get the ball moving forward so lets watch it all unfold and while i dont yet fully know what dabolls battleplan is..i tend to believe we are going to be a real force on the ground and will pass the ball fairly successfully when needed because of it,regardless of who starts at QB or catches the ball as long as they catch it...
I believe MH will play a larger part than most fans would be able to comprehend in developing both mangini and daboll these guys seem to have a real trust and patience problem with developing/trrusting certain positions/players and that could be detrimental to the club if not corrected and MH should be an incredible asset to them both in resolving/enhancing many of their coaching abilities and improving their shortcomings to make the whole club better for it ...
Currently IMHO there is no free agent WRs worth their price vs skill, We have momass and robo who should both turn it up this year we have stuckey plus cribbs if needed and now mitchell not to mention 6 TEs so im quite comfortable with what we have its more a matter of if they develop and flourish under dabolls plan, In my mind daboll and his playbook will be the determining factor in the equation more than the starting QB and WRs..
Mangini has all the moving parts he thinks he needs to truly get the ball moving forward so lets watch it all unfold and while i dont yet fully know what dabolls battleplan is..i tend to believe we are going to be a real force on the ground and will pass the ball fairly successfully when needed because of it,regardless of who starts at QB or catches the ball as long as they catch it...
Daboll is certainly another question mark. Let's hope that his second season is better than his first with us. But the fact remains that we do not have one proven receiver. Even Watson was shipped out of New England because he didn't live up to expectations. Although he is certainly the best receiver that we have right now. I still say that if last years stats are an indicater then we better plan on putting at least 150 yards rushing up every week if we are going to win games. And Massoqoui needs to step up to a number one threat, and better than he was a season ago.
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I think we will be able to churn out 150 yards most weeks.
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If we were one player away from the Super Bowl, I'd be all for going out and over paying TO (Andre Rison comes to mind)...
However, good receivers come in all rounds of the draft and in undrafted free agents...
I'm sure our receiving staff will be upgraded from last year but in all honesty thats the unit I worry about the most....
Hopefully MoMas and Robo will grow into their roles and someone will come upon the scene to help us out...
Peace
T.Dawg
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I agree that we should stand pat with our current WRs. There's nobody worth signing in the current market and it'll give us a chance to let our young guys get another year under their belts.
Another reason why we may stand still is because of the loaded WR class coming out next year. There's atleast 4 guys that have #1 WR potential that could come out next season and HMH may be hoping to snag one of those guys. I dunno about you, but I would be very happy with AJ Green, Michael Floyd, Julio Jones or Johnathan Baldwin as our #1
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