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Raiders Release Russell !!

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  • kamac19 kamac19K One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    kamac19K kamac19 wrote on last edited by
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    Well no shock here then he has been probably one of the worst QB of late

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    • next2nothing next2nothingN Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      next2nothingN next2nothing wrote on last edited by
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      BIGGER bust then Ryan Leaf.

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        BIGGER bust then Ryan Leaf.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        BIGGER bust then Ryan Leaf.

        At this point, yea. But he does have time to redeem himself. It was thought that Jim Plunkett was a flat out bust a couple or three years after he was drafted by the Pats....but we know he went on to be the starting QB in 2 Super Bowl Championship teams. Time will tell.

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          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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          The guy came out of College with "questionable work ethic" as a concern.

          My opinion is that if a player's work ethic or intensity is questioned when they are playing to GET to the NFL, you don't waste a draft pick on them. I don't care how much talent they have. Those 2 missing ingredients will tear a team apart. I considered him a "do not touch" before the draft. There are too many high quality young men with SOLID work ethics out there to waste time & money on a Jamarcus Russell. He had BUST written all over him, as did Leaf. I don't think he'll ever come around.

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            We should bring him to camp. Check him out, see if he's willing to put in the work now. If he wants to keep eating we could always make him a tackle. LOL why not.

            The real question is how long before he's a Bengal?

            1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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              cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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              In all fairness the Raiders overvalued him from the begining, sorta like they do with everyother pick. Russell had a terrible time getting in shape after that huge ass payday he got. I think the Raiders were hoping he would be a Culpepper type. I still think he will find a team to play for. Also, when a team releases a guy, does the player get the rest of the contract money?

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                S Spunkonmyback DPOY wrote on last edited by
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                I think he will go to Jacksonville....I heard they are short on hotdog venders.

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                  In all fairness the Raiders overvalued him from the begining, sorta like they do with everyother pick. Russell had a terrible time getting in shape after that huge ass payday he got. I think the Raiders were hoping he would be a Culpepper type. I still think he will find a team to play for. Also, when a team releases a guy, does the player get the rest of the contract money?

                  ballpeen ballpeenB Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  @cambridgeho said:

                  In all fairness the Raiders overvalued him from the begining, sorta like they do with everyother pick. Russell had a terrible time getting in shape after that huge ass payday he got. I think the Raiders were hoping he would be a Culpepper type. I still think he will find a team to play for. Also, when a team releases a guy, does the player get the rest of the contract money?

                  In a nutshell no. The signing bonus is paid up front, but the yearly portion of the deal is a pay for play type deal.

                  The raiders did this now because there was probably some other bonus looming they didn't want to pay.

                  I say good for the Raiders and good for Russell.

                  Too often teams feel they have to dick around with a player way to long because he was a top pick.

                  Good for Russell because it was clear he wasn't going to get it done there with all of the heavy expectations on his shoulders.

                  Now he can clear his mind and latch on somewhere else and possibly build his career.

                  I personally think Russell is a pretty darn good qb....if he gets his mind right. Somewhere new may do the trick.

                  I don't think Russell is as big a bust as Leaf. First, as Gipper said, he still has a shot at redemption.

                  Second, Leaf was just a nut case which Russell isn't.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    Well no shock here then he has been probably one of the worst QB of late

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                    B Buck The Frowns wrote on last edited by
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                    @kamac19 said:

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                    Well no shock here then he has been probably one of the worst QB of late

                    Didn't Davis fire the coach at the time when he thought Russell should not have been drafted? Bet he is laughing now.

                    I'd like to own the cable rights to a Big Mac eating contest between Russell and Casey Hampton. Just don't get your fingers anywhere near the table.

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                      sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by
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                      like Ballpeen said good move for both. taking the first pick of the draft ain't all it's cracked up to be for sure. they went BPA in a position of need but the position had too many intangibles for a 1sr overall imo so they shoulda gone straight BPA cuz J Russell wasn't a super safe pick. good to cut ties before the 1st overall status costs them a fortune but bad they missed out on their 1st pick and a potential starter.

                      what's more shocking to me than all of this is that the Raiders are rolling with our old buddy, the infamous bed-sheet-sharpie-autographing-Gradkowski. a shame Mangini has a Rat fetish, the guy mighta been worth holding on to. then again he may not meet several core characteristics, in which case good riddance.

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                        like Ballpeen said good move for both. taking the first pick of the draft ain't all it's cracked up to be for sure. they went BPA in a position of need but the position had too many intangibles for a 1sr overall imo so they shoulda gone straight BPA cuz J Russell wasn't a super safe pick. good to cut ties before the 1st overall status costs them a fortune but bad they missed out on their 1st pick and a potential starter.

                        what's more shocking to me than all of this is that the Raiders are rolling with our old buddy, the infamous bed-sheet-sharpie-autographing-Gradkowski. a shame Mangini has a Rat fetish, the guy mighta been worth holding on to. then again he may not meet several core characteristics, in which case good riddance.

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                        C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                        @sisky-fringo said:

                        what's more shocking to me than all of this is that the Raiders are rolling with our old buddy, the infamous bed-sheet-sharpie-autographing-Gradkowski. a shame Mangini has a Rat fetish, the guy mighta been worth holding on to. then again he may not meet several core characteristics, in which case good riddance.

                        I think Jason Cambell will be there starter.

                        1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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