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  • CLEVELandMILIDH C
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    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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    Adam_Schefter

    Paul Silas, Lebron's first NBA coach, told the "Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000, he believs his former player will be leaving Cleveland

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      Paul Silas, Lebron's first NBA coach, told the "Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000, he believs his former player will be leaving Cleveland

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      nmills said:

      Adam_Schefter

      Paul Silas, Lebron's first NBA coach, told the "Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000, he believs his former player will be leaving Cleveland

      Wasn't he let go? Thats like asking your x what she thinks of you.

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        Adam_Schefter

        Paul Silas, Lebron's first NBA coach, told the "Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000, he believs his former player will be leaving Cleveland

        Wasn't he let go? Thats like asking your x what she thinks of you.

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        @speedyd900rr said:

        Wasn't he let go? Thats like asking your x what she thinks of you.

        seriously, who gives a crap what paul silas says??? all of a sudden, everybody is an "expert" on this situation and they all want to give their 2 cents about something they know nothing about.

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          S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by
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          if lebron leaves, then so be it, but it won't be because know it alls like silas and charles oakley said so.

          i too believe that dan gilbert is dedicated to making the cavs a winner. listen to his end of the season presser. he's dedicated to building a winner and if lebron leavess, that still won't stop his plan of bringing a winner to c-town.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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            Didn't Jordan play for a lot less money so the Bulls could go out and get or keep Rodman and Pippin??

            Anyway, it doesn't matter. If he stays....great....if he leaves, it shows the guy isn't as true as we would hope.

            If he leaves, his first game back I would hope everybody dumps their James Jersey's on the court and then walk out....that or buy a ticket to support the team, then don't show up....I think it would be cool if there wasn't a person in the stands.

            That would be a message.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              if lebron leaves, then so be it, but it won't be because know it alls like silas and charles oakley said so.

              i too believe that dan gilbert is dedicated to making the cavs a winner. listen to his end of the season presser. he's dedicated to building a winner and if lebron leavess, that still won't stop his plan of bringing a winner to c-town.

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              BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by BrownB499
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              @sj_browns said:

              if lebron leaves, then so be it, but it won't be because know it alls like silas and charles oakley said so.

              i too believe that dan gilbert is dedicated to making the cavs a winner. listen to his end of the season presser. he's dedicated to building a winner and if lebron leavess, that still won't stop his plan of bringing a winner to c-town.

              I agree ,but the first thing that has to happen is fire Mike Brown...but then what? The big names aren't coming unless LeBron stays,

              and he's gonna drag this out well into late summer...cause he can, meantime Gilberts got to hire a coach that may or may not

              need to meet Lebron's approval...talk about being held hostage.

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                Not sure why LeBron's being held to a higher standard than any other former Cleveland stars

                Colavito,Wilkins,Chambliss,Nettles,Sipe,Harper,Price,Thome,Ramirez,Sabathia,Lee.

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                all came...lost..left

                Is it their fault? I don't think so...So why should LeBron be any different ? because he's from Akron ?

                because he said he would win ? He tried.. it didn't work...now he moves on...It's Cleveland..everybody leaves!

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                @brownb499 said:

                Not sure why LeBron's being held to a higher standard than any other former Cleveland stars

                Colavito,Wilkins,Chambliss,Nettles,Sipe,Harper,Price,Thome,Ramirez,Sabathia,Lee.

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                all came...lost..left

                Is it their fault? I don't think so...So why should LeBron be any different ? because he's from Akron ?

                because he said he would win ? He tried.. it didn't work...now he moves on...It's Cleveland..everybody leaves!

                Most of the guys you mentioned got traded, and didn't walk out via FA. Yeah, being hometown does make it different, and makes it worse, at least in my book. And it wouldn't be for the money either, should he leave. The Knicks can't offer LeBron a Sabathia deal like the Yankees did to get him in NYC.

                LeBron's being held to a higher standard because he's essentially jerking the Cavs around big time, to his own benefit- in a way no other player on the team could come close to doing. It's starting to get real old, real fast. Was clearly pointed out in the PD by Windhorst. Just a couple of examples- Mike Brown's obviously a goner, LeBron stays, the Cavs can get any coach on the market, and might even have a shot at Phil Jackson. If we have to wait until August while LeBron does his glory tour having every team with cap space suck up to him, the big name coaches will already have other jobs or have no interest in a rebuild project if he leaves. The draft is also before the FA period, and it sure as hell would be nice to know if James is staying or taking a powder. Might just affect what we do just a tad, no?

                I used to really like LeBron a lot more- thought he was pretty grounded, but the guy's rapidly developing a major case of fatheaditis.

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                  cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                  He must feel entitled or something. If he dont leave for the money, then I comend him. To mnay times in sports the Athlete disregards the failing franchises record and only cares about the money. Lebron is already loaded and he knows it, "he is filthy rich". He wants to win a title for sure, but that shit dont come easy to anyone. I have loved what he has done for the city of Cleveland, but we have had our hearts broken before. He will pretty much not be welcomed anywhere in OHIO if he leaves, but we really dont know if he is leaving for sure either. I just hope the actual GM doesnt wait to add play ers in FA, and then LBJ leaves anyhow. I wish we could get Evan Turner this year. He is going to be really good.

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                    nmills said:

                    Adam_Schefter

                    Paul Silas, Lebron's first NBA coach, told the "Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000, he believs his former player will be leaving Cleveland

                    Wasn't he let go? Thats like asking your x what she thinks of you.

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                    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                    @speedyd900rr said:

                    Wasn't he let go? Thats like asking your x what she thinks of you.

                    theres probably alot of truth in what ur x thinks of u,who would no u better, maybe some people are just to thick headed or not willing to admit the truth

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                      C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                      Browns Legend Jim Brown Thinks LeBron James Will Leave Cleveland

                      AUTHOR: Steve DiMatteo | IN: Browns | COMMENTS: 1 Comment

                      Even Jim Brown, the best player in Browns history and arguably the greatest running back in NFL history, has a say when it comes to what LeBron James will do this summer. Brown is of the belief that James will leave town, but it doesn’t stop there. According to Brown, the Cleveland fans and media are the ones driving James away.

                      He brings up the idea that expectations were too high and for us to analyze and “say humiliating things” about him, despite what he has done for the franchise, is, as Brown puts it, “an atrocity.”

                      The people of Cleveland have never been hard on LeBron during his time here – until this past postseason, Cleveland fans would have happily jumped off a cliff if he so desired. The reason everyone is analyzing Lebron James is within reason; James essentially gave up on the team during the series against the Boston Celtics.

                      To lose by 32 points at home is inexcusable, and LeBron didn’t seem all that upset about it. It is this nonchalant attitude that Cleveland fans can never accept and will rightfully call a player out on. The backlash on LeBron has been deserving, and if he can’t handle a little criticism, that’s too bad.

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                        Browns Legend Jim Brown Thinks LeBron James Will Leave Cleveland

                        AUTHOR: Steve DiMatteo | IN: Browns | COMMENTS: 1 Comment

                        Even Jim Brown, the best player in Browns history and arguably the greatest running back in NFL history, has a say when it comes to what LeBron James will do this summer. Brown is of the belief that James will leave town, but it doesn’t stop there. According to Brown, the Cleveland fans and media are the ones driving James away.

                        He brings up the idea that expectations were too high and for us to analyze and “say humiliating things” about him, despite what he has done for the franchise, is, as Brown puts it, “an atrocity.”

                        The people of Cleveland have never been hard on LeBron during his time here – until this past postseason, Cleveland fans would have happily jumped off a cliff if he so desired. The reason everyone is analyzing Lebron James is within reason; James essentially gave up on the team during the series against the Boston Celtics.

                        To lose by 32 points at home is inexcusable, and LeBron didn’t seem all that upset about it. It is this nonchalant attitude that Cleveland fans can never accept and will rightfully call a player out on. The backlash on LeBron has been deserving, and if he can’t handle a little criticism, that’s too bad.

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                        nmills said:

                        Browns Legend Jim Brown Thinks LeBron James Will Leave Cleveland

                        AUTHOR: Steve DiMatteo | IN: Browns | COMMENTS: 1 Comment

                        Even Jim Brown, the best player in Browns history and arguably the greatest running back in NFL history, has a say when it comes to what LeBron James will do this summer. Brown is of the belief that James will leave town, but it doesn’t stop there. According to Brown, the Cleveland fans and media are the ones driving James away.

                        He brings up the idea that expectations were too high and for us to analyze and “say humiliating things” about him, despite what he has done for the franchise, is, as Brown puts it, “an atrocity.”

                        The people of Cleveland have never been hard on LeBron during his time here – until this past postseason, Cleveland fans would have happily jumped off a cliff if he so desired. The reason everyone is analyzing Lebron James is within reason; James essentially gave up on the team during the series against the Boston Celtics.

                        To lose by 32 points at home is inexcusable, and LeBron didn’t seem all that upset about it. It is this nonchalant attitude that Cleveland fans can never accept and will rightfully call a player out on. The backlash on LeBron has been deserving, and if he can’t handle a little criticism, that’s too bad.

                        The fallacy in Brown's thinking is, as you stated- he's positing that LeBron is above criticism. Jordan would have been breathing hellfire in the interview room if one of his Bulls teams had laid a stinker like that at home in the playoffs.

                        BTW, the best critique of LeBron's play (where he really has to improve upon- it's what Kobe still has the edge on him) came from a guy on ESPN, and I have to agree with him- is LeBron's a fraction of a second slow reading the play, and knowing when to get rid of the ball. How many times in the Boston series did we see him drive into double and triple teams, and either make a bad pass, or turn the ball over? So would you rather work on that this summer LBJ, or go out and make movies, have owners suck up to you, and hang with your buddies JZ and Buffett? Nope, you're not Jordan yet LeBron- and if you don't ramp up the intensity, you're destined to be another Karl Malone.

                        One of the reasons Mike Brown is going to be gone is he couldn't stop LeBron from running the show on the court. Way, way too much of LeBron playing one on five letting the shot clock drain down to a couple of seconds, and hoisting up a three while the other guys just stood around and watched.

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                          nmills said:

                          Browns Legend Jim Brown Thinks LeBron James Will Leave Cleveland

                          AUTHOR: Steve DiMatteo | IN: Browns | COMMENTS: 1 Comment

                          Even Jim Brown, the best player in Browns history and arguably the greatest running back in NFL history, has a say when it comes to what LeBron James will do this summer. Brown is of the belief that James will leave town, but it doesn’t stop there. According to Brown, the Cleveland fans and media are the ones driving James away.

                          He brings up the idea that expectations were too high and for us to analyze and “say humiliating things” about him, despite what he has done for the franchise, is, as Brown puts it, “an atrocity.”

                          The people of Cleveland have never been hard on LeBron during his time here – until this past postseason, Cleveland fans would have happily jumped off a cliff if he so desired. The reason everyone is analyzing Lebron James is within reason; James essentially gave up on the team during the series against the Boston Celtics.

                          To lose by 32 points at home is inexcusable, and LeBron didn’t seem all that upset about it. It is this nonchalant attitude that Cleveland fans can never accept and will rightfully call a player out on. The backlash on LeBron has been deserving, and if he can’t handle a little criticism, that’s too bad.

                          The fallacy in Brown's thinking is, as you stated- he's positing that LeBron is above criticism. Jordan would have been breathing hellfire in the interview room if one of his Bulls teams had laid a stinker like that at home in the playoffs.

                          BTW, the best critique of LeBron's play (where he really has to improve upon- it's what Kobe still has the edge on him) came from a guy on ESPN, and I have to agree with him- is LeBron's a fraction of a second slow reading the play, and knowing when to get rid of the ball. How many times in the Boston series did we see him drive into double and triple teams, and either make a bad pass, or turn the ball over? So would you rather work on that this summer LBJ, or go out and make movies, have owners suck up to you, and hang with your buddies JZ and Buffett? Nope, you're not Jordan yet LeBron- and if you don't ramp up the intensity, you're destined to be another Karl Malone.

                          One of the reasons Mike Brown is going to be gone is he couldn't stop LeBron from running the show on the court. Way, way too much of LeBron playing one on five letting the shot clock drain down to a couple of seconds, and hoisting up a three while the other guys just stood around and watched.

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                          BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by BrownB499
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                          One of the reasons Mike Brown is going to be gone is he couldn't stop LeBron from running the show on the court. Way, way too much of LeBron playing one on five letting the shot clock drain down to a couple of seconds, and hoisting up a three while the other guys just stood around and watched.

                          I read somewhere that Phil Jackson's success with Michael and Kobe comes from his ability to get production from the rest

                          of the team.

                          He knows what he's getting from Kobe every night,he can count on Kobe...getting the rest of the team to contribute while Kobe

                          does his thing is the key.

                          I'm not sure if there's anyone out there right now,other than PJ that can convince LeBron that his super stardom has to be

                          structured in order for "HIS" team to be champions.

                          And if I remember right Phil struggled trying to sell this concept to Kobe the first couple of years.

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                            I thought that I would bump this thread for those who can't see the recipe needed to win a Championship before LeBron ever does.

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