Tom Izzo to Coach the Cavs?
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Izzo intrigues me more than any other available NBA coach. His teams always overachieve with lesser talent
nmills said:
Izzo intrigues me more than any other available NBA coach. His teams always overachieve with lesser talentHe is NOT an NBA coach, that is the point. Yea his teams overachieve with COLLEGE players. Not a good hire.
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nmills said:
Izzo intrigues me more than any other available NBA coach. His teams always overachieve with lesser talentHe is NOT an NBA coach, that is the point. Yea his teams overachieve with COLLEGE players. Not a good hire.
He is NOT an NBA coach, that is the point. Yea his teams overachieve with COLLEGE players. Not a good hire.
I dont get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?
If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldnt transfer to the NBA
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
He is NOT an NBA coach, that is the point. Yea his teams overachieve with COLLEGE players. Not a good hire.
I dont get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?
If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldnt transfer to the NBA
nmills said:
I don't get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldn't transfer to the NBA
Not saying it couldn't but it usually doesn't. That direction has produced a lot more flops than successes.
Who's better that might be available? Jeff Van Gundy and Byron Scott for starters. Brian Shaw- an assistant for the Lakers is getting props from both Phil Jackson and Shaquile O Neal.
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nmills said:
I don't get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldn't transfer to the NBA
Not saying it couldn't but it usually doesn't. That direction has produced a lot more flops than successes.
Who's better that might be available? Jeff Van Gundy and Byron Scott for starters. Brian Shaw- an assistant for the Lakers is getting props from both Phil Jackson and Shaquile O Neal.
Not saying it couldn't but it usually doesn't. That direction has produced a lot more flops than successes.
Who's better that might be available? Jeff Van Gundy and Byron Scott for starters. Brian Shaw- an assistant for the Lakers is getting props from both Phil Jackson and Shaquile O Neal.
Hell no to Van Gundy, good commentator bad coach. Byron Scott I could live with, he's proven he can turn franchises into winners. Brian Shaw is a bigger reach than Izzo IMO, If hes that coveted wouldnt the Lakers tell him he's there coach of the future and have him be an assistant for another year or two?
I understand alot of coaches have failed trying to make the transition to the NBA game but almost every time there getting hired onto a bad team.
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He is NOT an NBA coach, that is the point. Yea his teams overachieve with COLLEGE players. Not a good hire.
I dont get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?
If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldnt transfer to the NBA
nmills said:
I dont get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldnt transfer to the NBA
What stars have been through Michigan State? 2 maybe 3, Zack Randolph (lol) off the top of my head. Coach is king in college, the player is king in the NBA.
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nmills said:
I dont get what your tying to say, are you saying because he's a college coach its a bad hire? Or do you just not like his coaching style?If its just because he's a college coach Id say who out there thats available intrigues you more that has NBA experience thats realistic.
Izzo wins with great coaching, and his players love him and he's very loyal. He's not a Callipari, or Thad Matta that win with recruiting, Izzo's a great coach. I don't see why that couldnt transfer to the NBA
What stars have been through Michigan State? 2 maybe 3, Zack Randolph (lol) off the top of my head. Coach is king in college, the player is king in the NBA.
What stars have been through Michigan State?
Thats my point, without having stars he ranks third in winning percentage in the NCAA tournament behind only Duke and North Carolina. He gets it done when It matters without bigtime recruits.
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=29584
Breaking News: Tom Izzo Informs Michigan State Players He Plans To Take Cavaliers Head Coaching Position
Sources close to WFNY have informed us that Tom Izzo has told his players at Michigan State that he plans on taking the Cavaliers job. Our sources have heard directly from players on the MSU team that Izzo informed them this week that he is planning on making the move up to the NBA level under the ownership of MSU grad Dan Gilbert. We have also heard from a separate source that Izzo is holding off on announcing this until the end of the week, when his kids finish up school in the Lansing area. While Izzo could always change his mind, we are comfortable reporting that he has in fact informed his players at Michigan State that he will be taking the Cavaliers job.
More details as we get them.
Update from Rick: We have three separate confirmations. Nobody at WFNY expects Izzo to announce a press conference immediately in response to this. He has his timing. We will stand by the story and wait it out.
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What stars have been through Michigan State?
Thats my point, without having stars he ranks third in winning percentage in the NCAA tournament behind only Duke and North Carolina. He gets it done when It matters without bigtime recruits.
nmills said:
Thats my point, without having stars he ranks third in winning percentage in the NCAA tournament behind only Duke and North Carolina. He gets it done when It matters without bigtime recruits.Way different ball game. Why is Izzo exempt from the college to NBA failure scenario? And how does coming in coaching the best team in the NBA match your explanation of not having "big time recruits". You are comparing apples and oranges. He doesn't know how to handle a team of stars, that is the point. I wish him well and wish he succeeds because I am a die hard Cavs fans, but he will not. I hope I am wrong.
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nmills said:
Thats my point, without having stars he ranks third in winning percentage in the NCAA tournament behind only Duke and North Carolina. He gets it done when It matters without bigtime recruits.Way different ball game. Why is Izzo exempt from the college to NBA failure scenario? And how does coming in coaching the best team in the NBA match your explanation of not having "big time recruits". You are comparing apples and oranges. He doesn't know how to handle a team of stars, that is the point. I wish him well and wish he succeeds because I am a die hard Cavs fans, but he will not. I hope I am wrong.
Way different ball game. Why is Izzo exempt from the college to NBA failure scenario? And how does coming in coaching the best team in the NBA match not having "big time recruits". You are comparing apples and oranges. He doesn't know how to handle a team of stars, at least from your explanation. I wish him well and wish he succeeds because I am a die hard Cavs fans, but he will not. I hope I am wrong.
Im not saying he's exempt, Im saying he's better equipped and will have better talent than those before him.
I said he has won in college without big time recruits which tells you he can coach'em up and present a winning gameplan.
Where in my explanation did I say he cant handle stars? If he can win with 2nd tier players is it crazy to think he can with superstars. As long as the players buy into the
program theres no reason to believe he cant
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Way different ball game. Why is Izzo exempt from the college to NBA failure scenario? And how does coming in coaching the best team in the NBA match not having "big time recruits". You are comparing apples and oranges. He doesn't know how to handle a team of stars, at least from your explanation. I wish him well and wish he succeeds because I am a die hard Cavs fans, but he will not. I hope I am wrong.
Im not saying he's exempt, Im saying he's better equipped and will have better talent than those before him.
I said he has won in college without big time recruits which tells you he can coach'em up and present a winning gameplan.
Where in my explanation did I say he cant handle stars? If he can win with 2nd tier players is it crazy to think he can with superstars. As long as the players buy into the
program theres no reason to believe he cant
nmills said:
Im not saying he's exempt, Im saying he's better equipped and will have better talent than those before him.I said he has won in college without big time recruits which tells you he can coach'em up and present a winning gameplan.
Where in my explanation did I say he cant handle stars? If he can win with 2nd tier players is it crazy to think he can with superstars. As long as the players buy into the
program theres no reason to believe he cant
It's about dealing with egos in the NBA, and LeBron's is approaching the size of his poster hanging on the side of Tower City. If it's Izzo, impossible not to believe that LBJ didn't sign off on it. You really don't "coach up" players in the NBA- that's a job for your assistants to correct minor flaws.
Mike Brown flopped in the playoffs because he couldn't make in game adjustments. That's where you earn your money coaching in the NBA.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5271586
That source discussed Izzo's future with a close confidant of Izzo's who is coaching in the NBA. The source told Katz that Izzo, who talked to his team earlier this week about his interest in the Cavaliers, is leaning toward taking the job if it is offered.
"Three weeks ago that wasn't the case, but it has changed,'' the source said.
A source within the Cavaliers organization told The Associated Press that Izzo will be in Cleveland to meet with the Cavs and tour their facilities. He arrived at Burke Lakefront Airport Thursday afternoon.
Izzo did not give any indication of whether he would take the job, but a source told Katz that Izzo told the team he has a lot of thinking to do.
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nmills said:
Im not saying he's exempt, Im saying he's better equipped and will have better talent than those before him.I said he has won in college without big time recruits which tells you he can coach'em up and present a winning gameplan.
Where in my explanation did I say he cant handle stars? If he can win with 2nd tier players is it crazy to think he can with superstars. As long as the players buy into the
program theres no reason to believe he cant
It's about dealing with egos in the NBA, and LeBron's is approaching the size of his poster hanging on the side of Tower City. If it's Izzo, impossible not to believe that LBJ didn't sign off on it. You really don't "coach up" players in the NBA- that's a job for your assistants to correct minor flaws.
Mike Brown flopped in the playoffs because he couldn't make in game adjustments. That's where you earn your money coaching in the NBA.
It's about dealing with egos in the NBA, and LeBron's is approaching the size of his poster hanging on the side of Tower City. If it's Izzo, impossible not to believe that LBJ didn't sign off on it. You really don't "coach up" players in the NBA- that's a job for your assistants to correct minor flaws.
Mike Brown flopped in the playoffs because he couldn't make in game adjustments. That's where you earn your money coaching in the NBA.
Exactly.
Phil Jackson is a perfect example.
He has his rotations down pat and is the best coach ever in the last 4 minutes of the game.
Coaching in the NBA is a 4 minute skill set. I think Izzo understands the final 4 minutes of the game.
The only hitch in all of this is it might be hard to get a coach until they know James is going to be here and James may want to know who is here before he returns.
It looks like a agreement will have to be reached pretty much at the same time.
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Agreed. I will be surprised if a Coach is named until after July 1, but I have surely been wrong before.
Bottom line....."We'll see."
Mike
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Associated Press
EAST LANSING, Mich. -- Tom Izzo is staying at Michigan State, turning down a chance to coach the Cleveland Cavaliers and perhaps LeBron James.
In a statement released by the school on Tuesday Izzo says: "I'm pleased to say I am here for life at Michigan State."
For the past nine days, Izzo has been trying to decide whether to leave the place that has been his home since 1983 and jump to the NBA to perhaps make $6 million -- doubling his salary -- and possibly coaching one of the best basketball players in the world.
The Spartans have scheduled an 8:30 p.m. ET press conference with Izzo, school president Lou Anna Simon and athletic director Mark Hollis.
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Associated Press
EAST LANSING, Mich. -- Tom Izzo is staying at Michigan State, turning down a chance to coach the Cleveland Cavaliers and perhaps LeBron James.
In a statement released by the school on Tuesday Izzo says: "I'm pleased to say I am here for life at Michigan State."
For the past nine days, Izzo has been trying to decide whether to leave the place that has been his home since 1983 and jump to the NBA to perhaps make $6 million -- doubling his salary -- and possibly coaching one of the best basketball players in the world.
The Spartans have scheduled an 8:30 p.m. ET press conference with Izzo, school president Lou Anna Simon and athletic director Mark Hollis.
nmills said:
Associated PressEAST LANSING, Mich. -- Tom Izzo is staying at Michigan State, turning down a chance to coach the Cleveland Cavaliers and perhaps LeBron James.
In a statement released by the school on Tuesday Izzo says: "I'm pleased to say I am here for life at Michigan State."
For the past nine days, Izzo has been trying to decide whether to leave the place that has been his home since 1983 and jump to the NBA to perhaps make $6 million -- doubling his salary -- and possibly coaching one of the best basketball players in the world.
The Spartans have scheduled an 8:30 p.m. ET press conference with Izzo, school president Lou Anna Simon and athletic director Mark Hollis.
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