Supreme Court Extends 2nd Amendment.
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I don't have an argument against polygamy. I don't have a problem with it if all parties involved are okay with the situation. Kids have been raised under worse circumstances with monogamous, straight couples. The only people harping about it being immoral are the religious.
And as for age restrictions, I'd argue that there needs to be a number on it. Same thing with drinking age, maybe. I mean, there's no set age in which everyone becomes mature enough to be considered a responsible adult, there are just a bunch of life experiences that lead to it. As a society we've labeled it 18 for marriage and 21 for drinking. Are 18 year olds mature enough for marriage? Rarely, but could you logically raise or lower that age to a another arbitrary number? I don't think so. Do you?
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I don't have an argument against polygamy. I don't have a problem with it if all parties involved are okay with the situation. Kids have been raised under worse circumstances with monogamous, straight couples. The only people harping about it being immoral are the religious.
And as for age restrictions, I'd argue that there needs to be a number on it. Same thing with drinking age, maybe. I mean, there's no set age in which everyone becomes mature enough to be considered a responsible adult, there are just a bunch of life experiences that lead to it. As a society we've labeled it 18 for marriage and 21 for drinking. Are 18 year olds mature enough for marriage? Rarely, but could you logically raise or lower that age to a another arbitrary number? I don't think so. Do you?
I don't have an argument against polygamy. I don't have a problem with it if all parties involved are okay with the situation. Kids have been raised under worse circumstances with monogamous, straight couples. The only people harping about it being immoral are the religious.
And as for age restrictions, I'd argue that there needs to be a number on it. Same thing with drinking age, maybe. I mean, there's no set age in which everyone becomes mature enough to be considered a responsible adult, there are just a bunch of life experiences that lead to it. As a society we've labeled it 18 for marriage and 21 for drinking. Are 18 year olds mature enough for marriage? Rarely, but could you logically raise or lower that age to a another arbitrary number? I don't think so. Do you?
So the reason is that only those with a particular maturity level be allowed to wed?
Anyone you know over 18 that might not be stable?
WSS
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Well yeah, Steve, that's the idea. I mean, the law is in place to keep people from preying on young people that can't think for themselves and to prevent those pre-arranged marriages that people might end up hating.
Yeah, I know some people over 18 aren't mature, and I even said that, but the problem with raising age of consent, is that some people that ARE 18 are mature enough to marry. So as you raise it, you piss people off because some are mature enough to make life decisions. If you lower it, then you start to accept that pubescent teens are mature enough. Either way you piss someone off, but there probably should be an age threshold somewhere.
If there's no age of consent, then it'd be okay for someone to marry a four year old. If it's too high, then you piss off everyone. That age of consent needs to be there, and it's obviously arbitrary because no two people are alike, would you agree?
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"Vapor is an age bigot, Vapor is an age bigot"
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And you think it's okay to discriminate people based on how they were born.
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I don't know how they are born, but it is a perverse anamoly, to me.
You just want to upset the apple cart.
Read what I said. I said it was understandable that some folks are NOT allowed to join
a college group, then that group loses funding.
I'm saying it's just a political ploy. I can't wait for some gay women to join
the local college Islamic men's club.
It's a political ploy - to upset the apple cart. the gays who join the Christian college
group?
Are only there, imho, to challenge the group's beliefs, and if the group won't change their beliefs, then the "hate speech" slurs will come about.
Until they can destroy the group.
Goes back to what I said before.
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I don't know how they are born, but it is a perverse anamoly, to me.
You just want to upset the apple cart.
Yes, we liberals are doing this just to ruffle your feathers.
Read what I said. I said it was understandable that some folks are allowed to join
a college group, then that group loses funding.
They lost funding because they weren't allowed positions of authority in those groups based on who they're attracted to, which is bullshit.
I'm saying it's just a political ploy. I can't wait for some gay women to join
the local college Islamic men's club.
So would you be okay with your tax dollars funding Ohio State's Islamic Clubs? If you're okay with your tax money going to Christian clubs, then you've gotta be okay with the money going to Islamic and Anti-Semite and Black Panthers as well.
It's a political ploy - to upset the apple cart. the gays who join the Christian college group?
lol.
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You can't parse out my words, then refute them incorrectly, then get my understanding.
That is where Heck always lost his battles.
When I talk about upsetting the apple cart, this is an example:
Google will pay gays more than straights who are married.
Any excuse is a good excuse for reverse discrimination, to upset the apple cart.
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Google to Pay Tax for Gay Employee Benefits
Company making up for fed taxes on domestic partner benefits By JESSICA GREENE Updated 8:50 AM PDT, Thu, Jul 1, 2010
A Silicon Valley company famous, in part, for offering outrageously good benefits is straightening out a disparity among their employees.Starting Thursday, Google will adjust paychecks for its gay and lesbian employees who opt for domestic partner benefits to cover for a tax those employees have to pay, the New York Times reports.
As it is now, Mountain View-based Google offers benefits to the spouses or partners of both straight and gay employees. However, the married straight employees don't get taxed on those extra benefits -- but the gay employees do as part of the federal laws.
The pay raise will be retroactive to the beginning of 2010 and will apply only to employees in the U.S. Heterosexual employees with long-term partners won't see the pay adjustment, because they could marry and therefore get the tax break if they wished.
Google is not the first company to make such a move on behalf of their gay employees, the Times points out, but experts say it could inspire other Silicon Valley firms to follow suit.
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Whatever dude, there's nothing to parse out about you being okay with discriminating against people for something they can't help. That is where you fall each and every time this comes up.
Also, great example, cal. Seems fair to me. Gays missed out on a tax break because they can't get legally married while straights always had the option. Therefore money gets given retroactively to the gays. If gay marriage were legal, this wouldn't be an issue. It's not going to upset the balance of life, the only thing that will happen is that they will be able to get the same benefits as straights, then there wouldn't even be bickering about this issue. Why don't they deserve the same (strictly legal, not religious) rights as straight people?
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Because God created Adam and EVE.
Not Adam and Edgar.
Go forth and read yer Bible.
I'm not allowed to enter my Honda 400cc four wheeler in a Nascar race.
Therefore, I can't win a hundred thousand bucks, so I deserve a raise.
Yep, every time I try to think like a liberal I get cross eyed.
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