McCoy: Let's Just Get This Out There (!)
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Not sure I agree with you either, and I will be taking the wait-n-see approached. I'm not really eager to see what we have in him and on the same token I hope that we aren't ever in the position again to draft high enough to take the first overall, so it is a double-edged sword.
Good stuff on the 3rd round picks not leading franchises though, that creates some thought. If you feed me these reports everyday I may start calling McCoy a homo by the second preseason game, but I'd rather prefer to focus on the revamped defensive backfield and eager to see us pound the rock on offense, while ignoring our junior high WR corps.
I didn't want to draft Quinn, but thought it was kind of cool that we jumped back into the first round to catch his free fall. I sort of luke-warm-liked Colt, but would have rather had his target, Shipley. I kind of liked that we caught him in his own free fall too, or at least understood the pick was needed for cosmetic draft grades to keep fan interest. I can live with the pick though and look forward to seeing him make that attempt to be a third round franchise QB someday (did I just type that?). What am I talking about, I hate QB's ... go back to Barking Retard with this koolaid shit!
Cool, we have a line drawn in the sand though and a real Wild Wild West show-down brewing in Colt McCoy ... from Texas. Bring it on, message boards are for opinions and I love someone taking a stance.
I hope you are wrong.
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Oh, I hope I'm wrong, too. I really, really do. I just don't feel like McCoy is our guy for the next 10 years.
I'm with Kiper. I still think Clausen was one of the top 10 prospects.
I'm pretty excited about practically everything else.
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i agree with the reports that alot of scouts and 'draftologists' had out on mccoy before the draft. hey, i know he's a 'good' kid and all but he wasn't my fave prospect going into the draft. BUT i do think that our dynamic duo of holmgren and mangini can sniff out a winner now and again. not saying that every move these guys have made in the past have panned out but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt (for the time being).
clausen will probably turn out to be a great quarterback. i think we all here as browns fans though couldn't see us taking him because of the bad taste that quinn left us. hey he might be alright one day but for us: he sucked.
pike was the guy i was hoping we would take. more of the physical specimen that gms and coaches are looking for these days. big and tall with a strong arm.
but like you i'm excited about everything else and can't wait to see these guys take the field!
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Also adding to my angst: Nothing but cheery reports about Clausen in Carolina (my youngest son's team, he was born there)... both as far as talent and attitude. I felt the same way when we didn't get Aaron Rodgers. I just think we missed on this one.
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Also adding to my angst: Nothing but cheery reports about Clausen in Carolina (my youngest son's team, he was born there)... both as far as talent and attitude. I felt the same way when we didn't get Aaron Rodgers. I just think we missed on this one.
Also adding to my angst: Nothing but cheery reports about Clausen in Carolina (my youngest son's team, he was born there)... both as far as talent and attitude. I felt the same way when we didn't get Aaron Rodgers. I just think we missed on this one.
No worries mate. My prediction is that McCoy will end up being far better than Clausen.
Call it a gut feeling....and by god my gut is ample enough that you need to listen to it when it has feelings.
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Also adding to my angst: Nothing but cheery reports about Clausen in Carolina (my youngest son's team, he was born there)... both as far as talent and attitude. I felt the same way when we didn't get Aaron Rodgers. I just think we missed on this one.
No worries mate. My prediction is that McCoy will end up being far better than Clausen.
Call it a gut feeling....and by god my gut is ample enough that you need to listen to it when it has feelings.
No worries mate. My prediction is that McCoy will end up being far better than Clausen.
Call it a gut feeling....and by god my gut is ample enough that you need to listen to it when it has feelings
.Clausen looks like a penis, 'nuff said. I don't think either will be great in the NFL, but I like Colts attitude and hope to see him get a shot. I was extremely relieved that we did not take a QB in the first two rounds. We just are/were not ready for a high round QB until we can run the ball with force and play crushing D. Can't wait for Sept!
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No worries mate. My prediction is that McCoy will end up being far better than Clausen.
Call it a gut feeling....and by god my gut is ample enough that you need to listen to it when it has feelings
.Clausen looks like a penis, 'nuff said. I don't think either will be great in the NFL, but I like Colts attitude and hope to see him get a shot. I was extremely relieved that we did not take a QB in the first two rounds. We just are/were not ready for a high round QB until we can run the ball with force and play crushing D. Can't wait for Sept!
Clausen looks like a penis, 'nuff said. I don't think either will be great in the NFL, but I like Colts attitude and hope to see him get a shot. I was extremely relieved that we did not take a QB in the first two rounds. We just are/were not ready for a high round QB until we can run the ball with force and play crushing D. Can't wait for Sept!
I agree. It is crucial that we establish the makes of a true force run game this season. I'm a bit worried about the QB position only from the stance that the WR position scares the shit out of me which may make establishing the run just that much harder. Then we are back to which comes first again, the chicken or the egg.
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Like Holmgren said when he took over, the league has changed. It's a passing league and you really have to do it at a high level to win, now. He was referring to the Browns getting away with running the ball a ton late in the year.
I agree, Ate: Another reason that's true is that you can't get away with being an obvious run-first team. Unless you can also pass, it gets tough to run.
Teams that run well and don't pass well (Rams and Bucs last year) don't win much.
We really need to show off a pretty good passing game to make the running game work. Otherwise, they'll just stack the box.
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the good thing is we at least don't have a controversy, and everyone's not screaming for colt to start. 1 step at a time
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the good thing is we at least don't have a controversy, and everyone's not screaming for colt to start. 1 step at a time
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Clausen would have been a terrible pick for us. I kinda remember the Browns drafting a QB from Notre Dame a few years ago and we all know how that turned out. Also let me add that that "other" qb was more successful at ND than Clausen...
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I don't feel like one quarterback from a college has anything to do with another. I wouldn't draft Tee Martin 'cuz Peyton Manning's good. I wouldn't avoid Ponder because his predecessors all sucked.
I'm telling you: Clausen will be good. I hope McCoy is, too.
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Hey! I wasn't much of a Carr or Grossman fan... although I liked Grossman more than Orton. But I wasn't much of a draftnick then.
My biggest QB crush was Aaron Rodgers, but I liked Smith, too. Still do. Did NOT like Frye, as you know.
My misses were Harrington and Quinn (I guess).
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Zombo said:
If we were in Vegas based on those past predictions we would have some serious odds against Shep being correct! I for one think that McCoy has everything he needs to win despite the lack of arm strength, the system, and the height disadvantage. He is mobile, he is smart, he is a leader, and he is a serious competitor. He reminds me a little of a young Montana. We can only hope he will be that good. But I love the pick. And as I said before the draft I like Tebow's chances too. And I hate the Gators and could care less that he is religous..
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I really don't think pickle or mccoy will amount to much....jmo, but mccoy has a better shot to succeed. He doesn't have rip messing up his groove.....with fox likely gone, pickle will not be getting the quality attention he needs to develop his game.....and it surely needs a lot.
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What does his game need? He played in a pro style and had an amazing year. He's pretty polished.
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What does his game need? He played in a pro style and had an amazing year. He's pretty polished.
What does his game need? He played in a pro style and had an amazing year. He's pretty polished.
Now didn't we hear that about his predecessor at Notre Dame too? That's what scared me off the Clausen train- given the same amount of talent, Quinn beats Clausen in about every category. And going to the ND well after you just dumped a Golden Domer would have sat really poorly with a bunch of Browns fans- myself included.
You remember your "success" predictor? McCoy stacks up really well.
McCoy's a great "value" pick in my estimation- better completion percentage. Time will tell about the "weak arm" haven't seen him play enough to form an opinion.
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