McCoy: Let's Just Get This Out There (!)
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I gotta agree with Shep about the QB threads.
Like the Lewinski coverage everybody bitched but that's what got ratings.
WSS
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Well, we don't have Clausen and I personally am glad. In my opinion, he is vastly overrated. I think he will go the way of recent ND qb's. Yes, he came from a pro-style offense, but he was not a winner with it. He MAY have an accurate arm. but he wasn't #1. Why wouldn't you want #1?
We all know that long passes may be thrown just a yard and the receiver takes it 95 yards. The qb gets credit for a 96 yard pass. So who has the most long throws? We'll just have to go with the stats.
There may have been problems with the ND defense, but they had good receivers -- when Clausen got them the ball.
Well, we don't have Clausen and I personally am glad. In my opinion, he is vastly overrated. I think he will go the way of recent ND qb's. Yes, he came from a pro-style offense, but he was not a winner with it. He MAY have an accurate arm. but he wasn't #1. Why wouldn't you want #1?
We all know that long passes may be thrown just a yard and the receiver takes it 95 yards. The qb gets credit for a 96 yard pass. So who has the most long throws? We'll just have to go with the stats.
There may have been problems with the ND defense, but they had good receivers -- when Clausen got them the ball.
Quarterbacks make the WRs, with VERY few exceptions. Given that Tate had route running issues and isn't a burner, I'm betting Clausen did more for him than the other way around.
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BTW, Adam Caplan's Scout.com chat included a blurb that basically said: McCoy has a shot to start in the future IF the Browns go to a full WCO. He simply doesn't have the arm to "drive the ball downfield."
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Well, we don't have Clausen and I personally am glad. In my opinion, he is vastly overrated. I think he will go the way of recent ND qb's. Yes, he came from a pro-style offense, but he was not a winner with it. He MAY have an accurate arm. but he wasn't #1. Why wouldn't you want #1?
We all know that long passes may be thrown just a yard and the receiver takes it 95 yards. The qb gets credit for a 96 yard pass. So who has the most long throws? We'll just have to go with the stats.
There may have been problems with the ND defense, but they had good receivers -- when Clausen got them the ball.
Quarterbacks make the WRs, with VERY few exceptions. Given that Tate had route running issues and isn't a burner, I'm betting Clausen did more for him than the other way around.
Quarterbacks make the WRs, with VERY few exceptions. Given that Tate had route running issues and isn't a burner, I'm betting Clausen did more for him than the other way around.
No more than 50 50 says I.
If that.
A couple drive killing drops hurt you nearly as much as ints.
If not for Stallworth Swan etc pulling in Bradshaws bombs who knows//////
WSS
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Watching a replay of the 2009 Big 12 Champ game on ESPN Classic, and it's by far the most I've ever seen Colt play..........He looks like he should have gone in the draft right where he did. I'm not impressed at all.
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Watching a replay of the 2009 Big 12 Champ game on ESPN Classic, and it's by far the most I've ever seen Colt play..........He looks like he should have gone in the draft right where he did. I'm not impressed at all.
Watching a replay of the 2009 Big 12 Champ game on ESPN Classic, and it's by far the most I've ever seen Colt play..........He looks like he should have gone in the draft right where he did. I'm not impressed at all.
I don't understand that comment at all. I'm of an opinion, if someone doesn't impress you at all, you don't draft them anywhere, let alone in the 3rd round.
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Watching a replay of the 2009 Big 12 Champ game on ESPN Classic, and it's by far the most I've ever seen Colt play..........He looks like he should have gone in the draft right where he did. I'm not impressed at all.
Watching a replay of the 2009 Big 12 Champ game on ESPN Classic, and it's by far the most I've ever seen Colt play..........He looks like he should have gone in the draft right where he did. I'm not impressed at all.
um so we got value????
your a dumb xxxx..........
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I agree, Alo. He had some games against some less than stellar opponents -- and then there was Nebraska. Everybody thinks McCoy had everything a quarterback could want in 2009. The truth is that he had a poor offensive line, a running game that was practically non-existant if he didn't run it himself. And he had only one outstanding receiver. The defense was good, but the offense with which McCoy had to work was not the best support he could have had. This is where his leadership came in. That's how Texas won. And that is how he became the winningest qb in NCAA history.
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Even tom brady wouldn't have looked real good being tossed around like a rag doll by suh
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I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
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Well, you've been very forthright about your disdain for McCoy. Sorry you feel that way, but he is a Brown now -- and probably for several years to come. I still firmly believe that he will be a success.
And Clausen? The length of his initial contract as a jouirneyman.
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Well, you've been very forthright about your disdain for McCoy. Sorry you feel that way, but he is a Brown now -- and probably for several years to come. I still firmly believe that he will be a success.
And Clausen? The length of his initial contract as a jouirneyman.
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Well, you've been very forthright about your disdain for McCoy. Sorry you feel that way, but he is a Brown now -- and probably for several years to come. I still firmly believe that he will be a success.
And Clausen? The length of his initial contract as a jouirneyman.
Well, you've been very forthright about your disdain for McCoy. Sorry you feel that way, but he is a Brown now -- and probably for several years to come. I still firmly believe that he will be a success.
And Clausen? The length of his initial contract as a jouirneyman.
I don't hold him in disdain. He seems like a nice kid and has a dry sense of humor that showed up during draft season. I just have never thought he'd end up a good pro. Just my feeling.
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I haven't seen him play enough to have a strong opinion. When people said Drew Breese couldn't make it I strongly disagreed because I had watched him rip OSU to shreds during his college career. Colt has the intelligence to make it. When everyone loved brady I disagreed because I had watched him fall apart in some big games.
Colt's height and arm strength could hurt his chances and then you really need to find out just how a guy handles the pressures.
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It can be debated until we are blue in the face.
Until the guy goes out and determines his fate, we are simply guessing as to whether or not he will have a solid pro career.
I liked Tebow better than any of the others, but that may be my heart overriding my brain.
The point isn't to drum up more debate. It simply shows all of the QBs this year had some good things and some negative things. I don't think any of them, including Bradford, were guys you looked at and could put a "can't miss" label on their back.
So it simply comes down to what each of us like and what each of us considers most important in a qb.
As for our guy... Pre draft I wouldn't have selected Colt. But then again I wasn't thinking he would be around in round 3 either. I think for the draft position he is solid value because he does have positive skills. How those skills translate to the NFL game, time will tell.
It is a positive that Holmgrem put his foot down at that pick. If he sees some things that makes him feel that McCoy can be a good football player, it's hard for me to argue with that.
In terms of Colt being compared with browns players of the past, he stacks up pretty closely with Brian Sipe...they seem pretty similar in size and ability as far as measurables. He also looks a bit like Paul McDonald excepting McDonald was left handed. I didn't say Frye because Colt played at a much higher level in college as did McDonald.
Is Colt going to be like Paul, or like Brian??
That's the $25,000 question.
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I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
Well, now this is a comment I can back up, in-so-much as it makes sense based on your feelings. You don't like his skills and attributes as a player, so you wouldn't have drafted him.
But why would the guy above say, that he was not impressed at all by him, therefore figured he was a 3rd round value. I don't get that. If he didn't impress you, why would you consider drafted him at all.
On the other hand, McCoy has impressed me, and I am excited to see what the years to come will bring with him.
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I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
That's nice, but you're not an expert, and Mike Holmgren is, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
I wouldn't have drafted him at all. I don't have a good vibe on his odds of being special in the NFL.
Turn the battery on your dildo off! OK, now that you have done that, what do you think? (You know, you gotta hit the g spot with those things)
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um so we got value????
your a dumb xxxx..........
Try a reading comprehension class at your local JC. I'll try again, and type slower. Since I work on Saturdays, that game was the most I have ever seen Colt play. The only other footage of him that I have seen, was the pre-draft montages. So, in the only complete game that I have ever seen him in, he looked terrible. I know that he set some lofty numbers throughout his career, so that's why I said he was drafted where he belonged............Since team, after team, after team, after team passed on him on draft day, I guess they tend to agree with me, and not you.
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