Bernie Kosar reacts to LeBron James deserting Cleveland Fans
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Some people want to be King and others prefer to be the power behind the throne. It sounds as though LeBron wants the title without the responsibility.
Some people want to be King and others prefer to be the power behind the throne. It sounds as though LeBron wants the title without the responsibility.
good thing he's not using the #23 any more. he definitely aint jordan!
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Exaclty. If the Cavs brought in Bosh and Wade no one here would be saying LeBron's accomplishments mean less becuase he is playing with good players for the first time in 7 years. Why his LeBron being criticized (more accurately crucified) becuase he is following his childhood dream of an NBA title. If he was in it for money, for what other people wanted and a place where his ego would likely never be overshadowed by team success then he would have stayed in cleveland. He has been in the league 7 years and it was up to him to win the Cavs a championship. Basketball is a team sport and LeBron understands that.What people don't understand about LeBron is that he really is an insecure individual. Yes, LBJ does want to win a title and yes he is a "team" player....to the point that he really is significantly uncomfortable with being the team leader. As I said before I have a smidgen of insight into this because my nephew went to school with him from 7th grade on. Alone, he is in fact a shy, deferential person. But he has a "herd" mentality. His inner needs if you will are satisfied through supplication to his "posse" or "gang". He feeds off that and draws from it, but if you are not a part of that "posse" you are not important to his world. In HS it was Drew Joyce and Willie McGee and Romeo Travis on his team plus a few other close friends like Maverick Carter that he clung to. LBJ was by no means the leader of that group. On court it was Joyce, off court it was Carter. He just wants to be a part of "the gang", not the leader of the pack. He is now trying to replicate that here with his association with Bosh and Wade. Wade is the leader of that pack. To LeBron, yes, the common goal of the pack certainly is winning titles. But more important to his ego is now his ability to sublimate himself to the leadership of someone else in pursuit of that goal.
What people don't understand about LeBron is that he really is an insecure individual. Yes, LBJ does want to win a title and yes he is a "team" player....to the point that he really is significantly uncomfortable with being the team leader. As I said before I have a smidgen of insight into this because my nephew went to school with him from 7th grade on. Alone, he is in fact a shy, deferential person. But he has a "herd" mentality. His inner needs if you will are satisfied through supplication to his "posse" or "gang". He feeds off that and draws from it, but if you are not a part of that "posse" you are not important to his world. In HS it was Drew Joyce and Willie McGee and Romeo Travis on his team plus a few other close friends like Maverick Carter that he clung to. LBJ was by no means the leader of that group. On court it was Joyce, off court it was Carter. He just wants to be a part of "the gang", not the leader of the pack. He is now trying to replicate that here with his association with Bosh and Wade. Wade is the leader of that pack. To LeBron, yes, the common goal of the pack certainly is winning titles. But more important to his ego is now his ability to sublimate himself to the leadership of someone else in pursuit of that goal.
Thanks for the inside dope Gips- and courtesy of a link on cleveland.com, here's a tremendous (and unbiased) account of what James has unleashed.
Shore 'enuf, LeQuit is officially LePippin to Wade's Jordan- and maybe he's happy about it. Hard to believe LeBron's world doesn't extend beyond his Posse- but can the guy be so isolated from reality that he had no clue he was going to get the full Modell treatment when he left? "He has no idea how much backlash he is about to get." Per the article. Yeah I hoped not- but you may as well sell the manse LeBron, before some crazy tries to torch it.
He should consider himself lucky if his only damage is getting a beer or two tossed in his direction when he revisits the Q in the fall. Gilbert- put a "Quitness" t-shirt on every seat before that game.
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What people don't understand about LeBron is that he really is an insecure individual. Yes, LBJ does want to win a title and yes he is a "team" player....to the point that he really is significantly uncomfortable with being the team leader. As I said before I have a smidgen of insight into this because my nephew went to school with him from 7th grade on. Alone, he is in fact a shy, deferential person. But he has a "herd" mentality. His inner needs if you will are satisfied through supplication to his "posse" or "gang". He feeds off that and draws from it, but if you are not a part of that "posse" you are not important to his world. In HS it was Drew Joyce and Willie McGee and Romeo Travis on his team plus a few other close friends like Maverick Carter that he clung to. LBJ was by no means the leader of that group. On court it was Joyce, off court it was Carter. He just wants to be a part of "the gang", not the leader of the pack. He is now trying to replicate that here with his association with Bosh and Wade. Wade is the leader of that pack. To LeBron, yes, the common goal of the pack certainly is winning titles. But more important to his ego is now his ability to sublimate himself to the leadership of someone else in pursuit of that goal.
Thanks for the inside dope Gips- and courtesy of a link on cleveland.com, here's a tremendous (and unbiased) account of what James has unleashed.
Shore 'enuf, LeQuit is officially LePippin to Wade's Jordan- and maybe he's happy about it. Hard to believe LeBron's world doesn't extend beyond his Posse- but can the guy be so isolated from reality that he had no clue he was going to get the full Modell treatment when he left? "He has no idea how much backlash he is about to get." Per the article. Yeah I hoped not- but you may as well sell the manse LeBron, before some crazy tries to torch it.
He should consider himself lucky if his only damage is getting a beer or two tossed in his direction when he revisits the Q in the fall. Gilbert- put a "Quitness" t-shirt on every seat before that game.
Thanks for the inside dope Gips- and courtesy of a link on cleveland.com, here's a tremendous (and unbiased) account of what James has unleashed.
Shore 'enuf, LeQuit is officially LePippin to Wade's Jordan- and maybe he's happy about it. Hard to believe LeBron's world doesn't extend beyond his Posse- but can the guy be so isolated from reality that he had no clue he was going to get the full Modell treatment when he left? "He has no idea how much backlash he is about to get." Per the article. Yeah I hoped not- but you may as well sell the manse LeBron, before some crazy tries to torch it.
He should consider himself lucky if his only damage is getting a beer or two tossed in his direction when he revisits the Q in the fall. Gilbert- put a "Quitness" t-shirt on every seat before that game.
The SI survey on the debacle asks:
The Heat need a game-winning shot in a big playoff game. Who gets the ball?
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/bask...l#ixzz0teYXpklf
Maybe they'll be so busy passing off the ball to avoid the "pressure" that nobody will take the shot.
The Bulls showed LeBron James a pair of Air Jordans and asked him if he could fill those shoes. His answer was a loud, and embarrassing, "no."
The most stunning remark by James was his statement that he and Dwayne Wade would no longer have the pressure of having to score 30 points a night. That's the voice of a talented basketball player but not of a champion. Not even if he wins his title(s).
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Thanks for the inside dope Gips- and courtesy of a link on cleveland.com, here's a tremendous (and unbiased) account of what James has unleashed.
Shore 'enuf, LeQuit is officially LePippin to Wade's Jordan- and maybe he's happy about it. Hard to believe LeBron's world doesn't extend beyond his Posse- but can the guy be so isolated from reality that he had no clue he was going to get the full Modell treatment when he left? "He has no idea how much backlash he is about to get." Per the article. Yeah I hoped not- but you may as well sell the manse LeBron, before some crazy tries to torch it.
He should consider himself lucky if his only damage is getting a beer or two tossed in his direction when he revisits the Q in the fall. Gilbert- put a "Quitness" t-shirt on every seat before that game.
The SI survey on the debacle asks:
The Heat need a game-winning shot in a big playoff game. Who gets the ball?
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/bask...l#ixzz0teYXpklf
Maybe they'll be so busy passing off the ball to avoid the "pressure" that nobody will take the shot.
The Bulls showed LeBron James a pair of Air Jordans and asked him if he could fill those shoes. His answer was a loud, and embarrassing, "no."
The most stunning remark by James was his statement that he and Dwayne Wade would no longer have the pressure of having to score 30 points a night. That's the voice of a talented basketball player but not of a champion. Not even if he wins his title(s).
The SI survey on the debacle asks:
The Heat need a game-winning shot in a big playoff game. Who gets the ball?
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/bask...l#ixzz0teYXpklf
Maybe they'll be so busy passing off the ball to avoid the "pressure" that nobody will take the shot.
The Bulls showed LeBron James a pair of Air Jordans and asked him if he could fill those shoes. His answer was a loud, and embarrassing, "no."
The most stunning remark by James was his statement that he and Dwayne Wade would no longer have the pressure of having to score 30 points a night. That's the voice of a talented basketball player but not of a champion. Not even if he wins his title(s).
wow! good stuff from si. the results of that survey say alot. lebron doesn't realize what he's done yet, but he will real soon. he's made himself a hated man (especially) in cleveland/ne ohio, but also in chicago, nj, ny, la (clipper fans) and nba fans (in other cities) who were turned off by what he did.
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The SI survey on the debacle asks:
The Heat need a game-winning shot in a big playoff game. Who gets the ball?
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/bask...l#ixzz0teYXpklf
Maybe they'll be so busy passing off the ball to avoid the "pressure" that nobody will take the shot.
The Bulls showed LeBron James a pair of Air Jordans and asked him if he could fill those shoes. His answer was a loud, and embarrassing, "no."
The most stunning remark by James was his statement that he and Dwayne Wade would no longer have the pressure of having to score 30 points a night. That's the voice of a talented basketball player but not of a champion. Not even if he wins his title(s).
wow! good stuff from si. the results of that survey say alot. lebron doesn't realize what he's done yet, but he will real soon. he's made himself a hated man (especially) in cleveland/ne ohio, but also in chicago, nj, ny, la (clipper fans) and nba fans (in other cities) who were turned off by what he did.
wow! good stuff from si. the results of that survey say alot. lebron doesn't realize what he's done yet, but he will real soon. he's made himself a hated man (especially) in cleveland/ne ohio, but also in chicago, nj, ny, la (clipper fans) and nba fans (in other cities) who were turned off by what he did.
I've been a little surprised by the general reaction of fans not even associated with any of the cities in the running for LeBron James.
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wow! good stuff from si. the results of that survey say alot. lebron doesn't realize what he's done yet, but he will real soon. he's made himself a hated man (especially) in cleveland/ne ohio, but also in chicago, nj, ny, la (clipper fans) and nba fans (in other cities) who were turned off by what he did.
I've been a little surprised by the general reaction of fans not even associated with any of the cities in the running for LeBron James.
I've been a little surprised by the general reaction of fans not even associated with any of the cities in the running for LeBron James.
i think other people were just as disgusted as cavs fans were by lebrons selfishness and his egotistical display on espn that he made those who once loved and respected him, hate him with a passion.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
dont really want your squad to suck ...just vs. The Steelers...lol. HOWEVER... a couple yrs of Success and Ya ... I will want your guys to suck. Because you all will be Unbearable. hmmmm.... perhaps that is how you feel about us.Boy ain't that the truth!
Not all of you. We also hope that this rivalry will rev up again! It's good for our division, and it's good for the NFL!Boy ain't that the truth!
Not all of you. We also hope that this rivalry will rev up again! It's good for our division, and it's good for the NFL!its coming...
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Formerly Stone said:
Maybe you hit on something Gip! You see Steeler fans are as proud and loyal as any fan in the world, the difference is we realize there is a universe of difference between pride in a country/nation and pride in a game conducted by a morally bankrupt organization. This is why the people of Pittsburgh are down right embarrassed by the buffoon sitting in the white house right now!Actually, I don't think you guys have much in he way of pride AT ALL.
You just admitted you had no pride in your nation.
You apparently have no pride in your city.
If any of such characterics exist, it is only fair weathered pride. You basically just admitted that you cut and run when times get tough...be that with your sports team or your nation.
So, now we know what you are all about.
Nothing more need be said.
Actually, I don't think you guys have much in he way of pride AT ALL.
You just admitted you had no pride in your nation.
You apparently have no pride in your city.
If any of such characterics exist, it is only fair weathered pride. You basically just admitted that you cut and run when times get tough...be that with your sports team or your nation.
So, now we know what you are all about.
Nothing more need be said.
blaa blaa..Gipp , just throw us ALL Under the same Bus. Let the Bitterness show through.
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Actually, I don't think you guys have much in he way of pride AT ALL.
You just admitted you had no pride in your nation.
You apparently have no pride in your city.
If any of such characterics exist, it is only fair weathered pride. You basically just admitted that you cut and run when times get tough...be that with your sports team or your nation.
So, now we know what you are all about.
Nothing more need be said.
blaa blaa..Gipp , just throw us ALL Under the same Bus. Let the Bitterness show through.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
blaa blaa..Gipp , just throw us ALL Under the same Bus. Let the Bitterness show through.The bitterness is being exhibited all on your part.
You are here spewing hate and venom toward the Browns, the city, their fans.
And you are then surprised when we respond to defend the Browns, the city, the fans?
More fool you. You reap what you sow.
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This is some funny stuff for those of you who didnt watch the ESPY'S
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This is some funny stuff for those of you who didnt watch the ESPY'S
nmills said:
This is some funny stuff for those of you who didnt watch the ESPY'Si heard some sound clips (on wknr) of the espys when the guy was cracking on lebron. pretty funny.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
blaa blaa..Gipp , just throw us ALL Under the same Bus. Let the Bitterness show through.The bitterness is being exhibited all on your part.
You are here spewing hate and venom toward the Browns, the city, their fans.
And you are then surprised when we respond to defend the Browns, the city, the fans?
More fool you. You reap what you sow.
The bitterness is being exhibited all on your part.
You are here spewing hate and venom toward the Browns, the city, their fans.
And you are then surprised when we respond to defend the Browns, the city, the fans?
More fool you. You reap what you sow.
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.
Climbing the Stairway...To SEVEN !! -
The bitterness is being exhibited all on your part.
You are here spewing hate and venom toward the Browns, the city, their fans.
And you are then surprised when we respond to defend the Browns, the city, the fans?
More fool you. You reap what you sow.
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.my nutz are sweaty
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.my nutz are sweaty
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nmills said:
This is some funny stuff for those of you who didnt watch the ESPY'Si heard some sound clips (on wknr) of the espys when the guy was cracking on lebron. pretty funny.
i heard some sound clips (on wknr) of the espys when the guy was cracking on lebron. pretty funny.
hope lb watches these clips as he comes to terms with his egomanical, misguided self-absorption. heavy is the crown, king boy......It has becomes readily apparent that you had us all fooled.....a true leader brings
out the best in his teammates.......Your insecurity and fear of being exposed creates a communal toxicity that will follow you throughout your life...your shameless self promotion is disgraceful......
...You are but a drop of sweat from the balls of true winners like Larry and Micheal and Wes and Willis....Why don't you read some
biographies of some of the true NBA greats. Read about qualities you sadly will never attain......
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i heard some sound clips (on wknr) of the espys when the guy was cracking on lebron. pretty funny.
hope lb watches these clips as he comes to terms with his egomanical, misguided self-absorption. heavy is the crown, king boy......It has becomes readily apparent that you had us all fooled.....a true leader brings
out the best in his teammates.......Your insecurity and fear of being exposed creates a communal toxicity that will follow you throughout your life...your shameless self promotion is disgraceful......
...You are but a drop of sweat from the balls of true winners like Larry and Micheal and Wes and Willis....Why don't you read some
biographies of some of the true NBA greats. Read about qualities you sadly will never attain......
hope lb watches these clips as he comes to terms with his egomanical, misguided self-absorption. heavy is the crown, king boy......It has becomes readily apparent that you had us all fooled.....a true leader brings
out the best in his teammates.......Your insecurity and fear of being exposed creates a communal toxicity that will follow you throughout your life...your shameless self promotion is disgraceful......
...You are but a drop of sweat from the balls of true winners like Larry and Micheal and Wes and Willis....Why don't you read some
biographies of some of the true NBA greats. Read about qualities you sadly will never attain......
oh, i'm sure lebron knows about the greats and all of their accomplishments. it's just that lebron doesn't want to follow in their footsteps, he wants to take the easy way out.
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and how funny is it that lebron wasn't at the espys and STILL got booed? the mere mention of his name led to boos from alot of sports fans that were present at the event.
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The bitterness is being exhibited all on your part.
You are here spewing hate and venom toward the Browns, the city, their fans.
And you are then surprised when we respond to defend the Browns, the city, the fans?
More fool you. You reap what you sow.
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.Your quote "when I call you out for being petty and bitter".
Yea, you took the high road. Sure.
The Kettle calling the pot black.
Its not laughable, its pathetic.
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and how funny is it that lebron wasn't at the espys and STILL got booed? the mere mention of his name led to boos from alot of sports fans that were present at the event.
and how funny is it that lebron wasn't at the espys and STILL got booed? the mere mention of his name led to boos from alot of sports fans that were present at the event.
Good point. I mean, was the ESPY crowd full of Cleveland fans? I seriously doubt it.
For a guy who tried to polish his image, his "brand" with his act all he accomplished was to tarnish it.
For a guy who tried to show that he was a winner, he showed that he was a loser.
For a guy who tried to show that he was "The Man", all he did was show that he was a boy.
Even if he wins, no one will consider him a winner at this point.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOL Hilarious... Bitter ? About what ? You`re totally delusional , I am pretty sure I defended you guys from stupid comments by some of My Steeler Brethren all through this thread. Then when I call you out for being Petty and bitter You spin some ridiculous BS about Me being bitter to Cleveland fans ?? Come on ... I will take the high road and not bother to point out the obvious reasons why thats laughable.Your quote "when I call you out for being petty and bitter".
Yea, you took the high road. Sure.
The Kettle calling the pot black.
Its not laughable, its pathetic.
Your quote "when I call you out for being petty and bitter".
Yea, you took the high road. Sure.
The Kettle calling the pot black.
Its not laughable, its pathetic
.Pathetic indeed... And anyone not observing this in Orange colored glasses knows your totally full of CRAP...to put it nicely. Go back and read ALL The posts. You pick the one I toss out AFTER you show said bitterness. Blaa blaa is ALL that exits your mouth Gipper. Negative is far too a positive word to describe you. After all THIS is what started the downward spiral :
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QUOTE (The Gipper @ Jul 12 2010, 04:53 PM)
Actually, I don't think you guys have much in he way of pride AT ALL.
You just admitted you had no pride in your nation.
You apparently have no pride in your city.
If any of such characterics exist, it is only fair weathered pride. You basically just admitted that you cut and run when times get tough...be that with your sports team or your nation.
So, now we know what you are all about.
Nothing more need be said.
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by the way the last line... Exactly....I agree NOTHING MORE NEED BE SAID.
but it will be....
Climbing the Stairway...To SEVEN !!
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