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  • Harrison is going to be okay by virtue of his last four games. Hardesty will be okay (at least for this year) because of his draft situation. Hillis has a four or five game history in 2008 with Denver. His best running game (more than 100 yards with an average of more than 5 yards) came against Mangini's Jets, and I don't think it was an accident that he got "thrown in" when Mangini got the chance to get him in the Quinn deal.

    Davis will sure have his work cut out. If Mangini doesn't want to keep them all, maybe the one he picks can be traded for somebody helpful. I'm not even going to get into which one that might be.

  • When looking at a trade, you have to consider Hardesty won't be traded, Davis can't really be traded for anything. Hillis might have some value, but not much.

    The only RBs that have any trade value are Harrison and Vickers.

    My guess is if Hillis shows he can be a good lead blocker to go along with his ability to run and catch, Vickers is the one who would be put on the block.

    Vickers would also bring the most in return, be it a player or a future draft pick.

    Yeah....keep an eye on how well Hillis blocks.

    Otherwise, Davis probably gets cut as the odd man out.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • I think harrison is the odd man out....he's the only one dimensional back on the roster.

    ballpeenB miktoxicM 2 Replies
  • chocoC choco

    I think harrison is the odd man out....he's the only one dimensional back on the roster.

    @choco said:

    I think harrison is the odd man out....he's the only one dimensional back on the roster.

    It would take Davis to emerge,,,,but it could be that as well.

    He would hold some trade value as said earlier.

    I am just a bit concerned that Davis won't get much of a shot with all of the additions.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • I dig all three of those guys. I think Moore is actually one of our huge X factors between a 6-10 season and a 9-7 season. I love the idea of treating him more like a Dallas Clark type, putting him in the slot and creating big mismatches. I loved what I saw from him last year.

    And Rubin... I actually wouldn't even have him on this list. I already have big expectations of him.

  • I agree on Rubin and Moore.

    I really like Moore...I think he can become as good or better than Joe J in his prime.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Agreed, 'Peen. I've been comparing him to Joe J. a lot. He's something of a hybrid guy, as much big WR as small TE. If you think of him that way, you get over that pesky blocking issue.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply
  • chocoC choco

    I think harrison is the odd man out....he's the only one dimensional back on the roster.

    @choco said:

    I think harrison is the odd man out....he's the only one dimensional back on the roster.

    if he hadn't led the league in rushing the last 4 weeks of the season i would agree with you. i just don't think you can let a guy go who showed you what he did. alot of people say that running backs are a dime a dozen and you can find one on any corner in america.............bullshit.

  • S shepwrite

    Agreed, 'Peen. I've been comparing him to Joe J. a lot. He's something of a hybrid guy, as much big WR as small TE. If you think of him that way, you get over that pesky blocking issue.

    @shepwrite said:

    Agreed, 'Peen. I've been comparing him to Joe J. a lot. He's something of a hybrid guy, as much big WR as small TE. If you think of him that way, you get over that pesky blocking issue.

    I agree.

    My attitude on that is if you want blocking, just stick a back-up tackle out there. St. Claire can probably catch passes as well as some of the stiff TE's we lined up because they could block.

    If the position is a position where running the ball, catching the ball, and scoring points is a realistic possibility, I want the ability to run and catch to supersede any blocking ability as much as I don't give a shit if Joe Thomas can catch passes or spin move his way out of a defenders grasp.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • mikeyP72 said:

    St Claire has better hands than Robert "Stone Hands" Royal. We cut his ass yet?

    That's my point. If they can't catch, might as well put a better blocker on the line....or....forget blocking and put a real receiver in there.

    Ozzie wasn't a good blocker....he got in the way when he wasn't the first or second option on darn near every passing play.

    Moore can catch and is athletic...he was Mr Football and basketball in Cal. as a prep.

    I couldn't care less if he can block, but push come to shove, I bet he can get in the way well enough.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    When looking at a trade, you have to consider Hardesty won't be traded, Davis can't really be traded for anything. Hillis might have some value, but not much.

    The only RBs that have any trade value are Harrison and Vickers.

    My guess is if Hillis shows he can be a good lead blocker to go along with his ability to run and catch, Vickers is the one who would be put on the block.

    Vickers would also bring the most in return, be it a player or a future draft pick.

    Yeah....keep an eye on how well Hillis blocks.

    Otherwise, Davis probably gets cut as the odd man out.

    @ballpeen said:

    When looking at a trade, you have to consider Hardesty won't be traded, Davis can't really be traded for anything. Hillis might have some value, but not much.

    The only RBs that have any trade value are Harrison and Vickers.

    My guess is if Hillis shows he can be a good lead blocker to go along with his ability to run and catch, Vickers is the one who would be put on the block.

    Vickers would also bring the most in return, be it a player or a future draft pick.

    Yeah....keep an eye on how well Hillis blocks.

    Otherwise, Davis probably gets cut as the odd man out.

    I don't see why you would necessarily have to trade or cut any of them. If you keep Vickers and Hillis as FBs, and Harrison, Hardesty, and Davis at RB that represents your 5 man RB corps. The odd man out may be Jennings. He would have to beat out one of the others to maintain a roster spot. ....OR would the Browns keep 6 players at the RB/FB positions?

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