It's Jake's job to lose
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Part of his problem is his emotions ruin him. It's just like Keanu Reeves said in the Replacements about quicksand. If you don't know what I'm talking about watch the movie. More or less he talks about making one mistake, then in effort to make up for it the whole gets dug deeper and deeper. This is what has happened to Delhomme. If he falls into quicksand the job will be lost. There's the link to a YouTube link to the part I'm talking about.
Did u really just compare jake to footsteps falco? Maybe we should compare him to paul blake. Here is the problem, we have done this song and dance before with jeff garcia and trent dilfer. there have been qbs who have resurected there careers by a change of scenary. Unfortantely I can't remember the last time we were lucky enough to find one.
Did u really just compare jake to footsteps falco? Maybe we should compare him to paul blake. Here is the problem, we have done this song and dance before with jeff garcia and trent dilfer. there have been qbs who have resurected there careers by a change of scenary. Unfortantely I can't remember the last time we were lucky enough to find one.
No I was simply saying what Falco said in the movie relates a lot to what I think about Delhomme. Hell, even the pea brained analysts say the same thing during each of his meltdowns. They don't use the quicksand analogy but it's the same principle. However, your point is well seen about the journeyman qb. We have yet to see one. I don't agree with Jake being picked up by the Browns but he is a member of the team until he's cut, traded, or retired. So in that time I hope that he brings something to the table. If not he'll be benched and on to the next guy. This team needs to be better as a whole it doesn't end with Delhomme no more than it will begin with McCoy. The team has to want to win before they can. They've shown they're capable of winning but do they really want to win is the question. Just like Mike Singletary said "I want winners!" "I want players that want to win!" same goes for me as a browns fan. I hope all of you are like that.
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I think Jake's margin for error is REALLY small, given how he's played last season and the previous playoffs. In fact, if he throws a few picks in the opener, it'll feel like business as usual and the chants of "DUH!!" will be deafening. Like, who couldn't see THIS coming?
I can't think of someone who needs a "clean" game more than Delhomme. I'm not sure he has to ring up big numbers... he just has to stay within himself, be accurate, and avoid turnovers. More than 1 pick is going to look really bad.
I think Jake's margin for error is REALLY small, given how he's played last season and the previous playoffs. In fact, if he throws a few picks in the opener, it'll feel like business as usual and the chants of "DUH!!" will be deafening. Like, who couldn't see THIS coming?
I can't think of someone who needs a "clean" game more than Delhomme. I'm not sure he has to ring up big numbers... he just has to stay within himself, be accurate, and avoid turnovers. More than 1 pick is going to look really bad.
I don't think you can put numbers on it like more than 1 pick.
Picks happen.
As long as he hits receivers and we move the ball, that is good enough....and we will.
I think Jake will pass for around 3300 yards with a percentage in the low 60's, maybe 20 TD with 15 picks....maybe a QB rating in the high 80's.
If the running game backs that up, we win 8-9 ballgames....a bounce or two, maybe 10.
I expect the last game against the Steelers to be a game of meaning.
We may need some help that Sunday in other games, but we WILL be playing with possibilities on the line.
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mikeyP72 said:
I'd rather have Delhomme than a rapist.No you wouldn't but nice try.
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Delhomme may not be very good but I would rather have him then Big Ben. Ben looked like shit behind that Pittsburgh line last year, imagine if he'd played for us since 2004. The dude would be in a wheelchair by now.
Delhomme may not be very good but I would rather have him then Big Ben. Ben looked like shit behind that Pittsburgh line last year, imagine if he'd played for us since 2004. The dude would be in a wheelchair by now.
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.
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Delhomme may not be very good but I would rather have him then Big Ben. Ben looked like shit behind that Pittsburgh line last year, imagine if he'd played for us since 2004. The dude would be in a wheelchair by now.
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.
Homotron said:
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.this is a serious, not hateful question. What do you get on coming onto a browns board, a forum that will have clear bias towards the browns and steelers and try and defend your team? does it raise your self-esteem by arguing on almost thing put on here? I'm really not trying to put you down here, cause you do at least talk with some wit. I guess I just really don't see the point of it, it's not like we're going to feel any differently based on what you say.
It'd be like me as a conservative republican going to an ACLU meeting. I may be saying things that are true and my opinions may be valid, but it's just going to fall on deaf ears 95% of the time.
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Homo likes to hijack threads to Pissburg related topics. She is really a troll.
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Hey nostra-dunbass..........I really don't value your opinion , sorry
Oh you do and I'll be right. Delhomme is worthless, he'll lose his job in a timely fashion.
Homotron said:
Oh you do and I'll be right. Delhomme is worthless, he'll lose his job in a timely fashion.Maybe he will, maybe he won't. What is your point? If he does then that will mean simply that the Browns will have someone better running the team.
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Part of his problem is his emotions ruin him. It's just like Keanu Reeves said in the Replacements about quicksand. If you don't know what I'm talking about watch the movie. More or less he talks about making one mistake, then in effort to make up for it the whole gets dug deeper and deeper. This is what has happened to Delhomme. If he falls into quicksand the job will be lost. There's the link to a YouTube link to the part I'm talking about.
Did u really just compare jake to footsteps falco? Maybe we should compare him to paul blake. Here is the problem, we have done this song and dance before with jeff garcia and trent dilfer. there have been qbs who have resurected there careers by a change of scenary. Unfortantely I can't remember the last time we were lucky enough to find one.
Did u really just compare jake to footsteps falco? Maybe we should compare him to paul blake. Here is the problem, we have done this song and dance before with jeff garcia and trent dilfer. there have been qbs who have resurected there careers by a change of scenary. Unfortantely I can't remember the last time we were lucky enough to find one.
A couple of possibles: Vinny Testaverde led Browns to playoffs in 1994. Gary Danielson perhaps. He did well as a "stopgap" until Kosar came along. Bill Nelsen definitely. Led Browns to several playoff appearances even with his bad knees.
Yes, a question is will Delhomme be one of those guys, or a Dilfer, Garcia, Rypien who did not fare all that well in their chances here.
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I like the hate on Delhomme right now. Lets him fly under the radar. Most of the negative criticism towards him is because of the two past seasons.
Remember this is an undrafted QB who took a team to the Super Bowl not too long ago.
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I like the hate on Delhomme right now. Lets him fly under the radar. Most of the negative criticism towards him is because of the two past seasons.
Remember this is an undrafted QB who took a team to the Super Bowl not too long ago.
I like the hate on Delhomme right now. Lets him fly under the radar. Most of the negative criticism towards him is because of the two past seasons.
Remember this is an undrafted QB who took a team to the Super Bowl not too long ago.
Not too long ago? It's a long ass time when discussing "NFL" time considering the wear and tear on your body while in the league. He's also not flying under anyone's radar. He's been completely cast off and rightfully so because he's been awful as of late. He's easily one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league and the one thing the Browns do need is consistency. Who knows maybe he experiences some sort of rebirth. I sincerely doubt it and you'll be drafting a QB next year. Delhomme is irrelevant and has been for a while.
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Did Florio's TSN article make it here yet? Don't wanna double paste. He lists the five QBs who shouldn't be under pressure... because they should already be benched. Delhomme is the first one.
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I like the hate on Delhomme right now. Lets him fly under the radar. Most of the negative criticism towards him is because of the two past seasons.
Remember this is an undrafted QB who took a team to the Super Bowl not too long ago.
Not too long ago? It's a long ass time when discussing "NFL" time considering the wear and tear on your body while in the league. He's also not flying under anyone's radar. He's been completely cast off and rightfully so because he's been awful as of late. He's easily one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league and the one thing the Browns do need is consistency. Who knows maybe he experiences some sort of rebirth. I sincerely doubt it and you'll be drafting a QB next year. Delhomme is irrelevant and has been for a while.
Homotron said:
Not too long ago? It's a long ass time when discussing "NFL" time considering the wear and tear on your body while in the league. He's also not flying under anyone's radar. He's been completely cast off and rightfully so because he's been awful as of late. He's easily one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league and the one thing the Browns do need is consistency. Who knows maybe he experiences some sort of rebirth. I sincerely doubt it and you'll be drafting a QB next year. Delhomme is irrelevant and has been for a while.Well, he had a bad game and a bad year, other than that, he has been pretty good throughout his career.
Why you have a bug up your ass about Delhomme confuses me. Did he bang your wife?
No one here is expecting miracles from Jake Delhomme. At best we are hoping for a steady veteran hand as a stopgap QB.
At worst, he will either repeat what he did last year and be benched in which case we may not be any worse off than we were last year on offense.
Perhaps the OC for the Browns ought to be seriously questioned and not the QBs.
Another couple of things: who says the Browns didn't have consistency last year at QB? They were consistently bad. That IS consistency. Also, in case you didn't notice, the Browns drafted a QB in April. Whether or not they think they will need another one come next year is beyond the power of you, me, or anyone else to figure out. If the plan is not to play McCoy, then we won't know if he will or will not be the right choice for the future. That question won't be answered for at least a year or two beyond that.
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Delhomme may not be very good but I would rather have him then Big Ben. Ben looked like shit behind that Pittsburgh line last year, imagine if he'd played for us since 2004. The dude would be in a wheelchair by now.
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.
Homotron said:
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.More yards passing does not necessarily equate to more wins.
I'd also rather not have Ben because he has a serious history of terrible personal decisions and bad behavior. Motorcycle wreck wearing no helmet. Continues to ride helmetless. Two (reported) rapes. Terrible to the fans and normal civilians. Pissing on a golf course. This dude is a black hole to a PR department but because he wins he gets to stick around. If he hadn't "won" two superbowls his ass would be on the street now.
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Homotron said:
How many yards did he throw for this past year? The defense lost the games for us this past season, not Ben. You're also so full of sh.it it hurts my stomach. It's one thing to hate the Steelers it's something completely different to throw out completely ridiculous statements to back up that hate. You'd rather have Delhomme than Big Ben? I don't think any one of the 32 teams in the NFL would say "I'd rather have X over Big Ben" unless "X" is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and even then the argument is getting diluted. Steeler fan or not the man is a beast and a proven winner. Delhomme can't smell where he sh.it last. If the defense didn't continuously drop the ball in the 4th quarter last year Pittsburgh would have been a 13-3 team. Period.More yards passing does not necessarily equate to more wins.
I'd also rather not have Ben because he has a serious history of terrible personal decisions and bad behavior. Motorcycle wreck wearing no helmet. Continues to ride helmetless. Two (reported) rapes. Terrible to the fans and normal civilians. Pissing on a golf course. This dude is a black hole to a PR department but because he wins he gets to stick around. If he hadn't "won" two superbowls his ass would be on the street now.
More yards passing does not necessarily equate to more wins.
I'd also rather not have Ben because he has a serious history of terrible personal decisions and bad behavior. Motorcycle wreck wearing no helmet. Continues to ride helmetless. Two (reported) rapes. Terrible to the fans and normal civilians. Pissing on a golf course. This dude is a black hole to a PR department but because he wins he gets to stick around. If he hadn't "won" two superbowls his ass would be on the street now.
Did I say more yards equate to more wins? I said the defense lost 4th quarter leads after Ben drove the team down the field for the go ahead TD. The defense was to blame for a majority of the losses last season not Big Ben. I'm fairly certain of the 7 losses last season 5 were lost in the 4th quarter after giving up a lead. The defense couldn't get opposing offenses off the field in the 4th quarter. I read a article on it recently but can't find it at the moment to post.
As far as everything else is concerned and as far as I know he doesn't ride his motorcycle often if at all anymore. The first "rape" was completely thrown out and Ben actually was told to go after her by his counsel for defamation of character. She was in it for a money grab and failed. The second scenario is no different. I also suppose you're incapable of reading seeing as it wasn't Big Ben that pissed on the golf course but rather a Miami Red Hawk alumni. Oh and he DID win two Super Bowls and he'll win a few more. The Browns don't want Big Ben? LMFAO.
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Homotron said:
Not too long ago? It's a long ass time when discussing "NFL" time considering the wear and tear on your body while in the league. He's also not flying under anyone's radar. He's been completely cast off and rightfully so because he's been awful as of late. He's easily one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league and the one thing the Browns do need is consistency. Who knows maybe he experiences some sort of rebirth. I sincerely doubt it and you'll be drafting a QB next year. Delhomme is irrelevant and has been for a while.Well, he had a bad game and a bad year, other than that, he has been pretty good throughout his career.
Why you have a bug up your ass about Delhomme confuses me. Did he bang your wife?
No one here is expecting miracles from Jake Delhomme. At best we are hoping for a steady veteran hand as a stopgap QB.
At worst, he will either repeat what he did last year and be benched in which case we may not be any worse off than we were last year on offense.
Perhaps the OC for the Browns ought to be seriously questioned and not the QBs.
Another couple of things: who says the Browns didn't have consistency last year at QB? They were consistently bad. That IS consistency. Also, in case you didn't notice, the Browns drafted a QB in April. Whether or not they think they will need another one come next year is beyond the power of you, me, or anyone else to figure out. If the plan is not to play McCoy, then we won't know if he will or will not be the right choice for the future. That question won't be answered for at least a year or two beyond that.
Well, he had a bad game and a bad year, other than that, he has been pretty good throughout his career.
Why you have a bug up your ass about Delhomme confuses me. Did he bang your wife?
No one here is expecting miracles from Jake Delhomme. At best we are hoping for a steady veteran hand as a stopgap QB.
At worst, he will either repeat what he did last year and be benched in which case we may not be any worse off than we were last year on offense.
Perhaps the OC for the Browns ought to be seriously questioned and not the QBs.
Another couple of things: who says the Browns didn't have consistency last year at QB? They were consistently bad. That IS consistency. Also, in case you didn't notice, the Browns drafted a QB in April. Whether or not they think they will need another one come next year is beyond the power of you, me, or anyone else to figure out. If the plan is not to play McCoy, then we won't know if he will or will not be the right choice for the future. That question won't be answered for at least a year or two beyond that.
Why do your paragraphs always look so fvcked up? Yes irrelevant to the thread but that is one jacked up post and they are all that way. Do you type in large blocks and then go back and tard up the paragraph break up? You also know what type of consistency I was talking about in my previous post. Playing consistently bad is not the sort of consistency that fits anywhere in to this discussion. Is that some sort of weak attempt to make a point? A moot point. As far as Delhomme is concerned he's on the decline and went from being solid to bad and hasn't left the realm of bad. In my world that is a trend and one on a negative down turn.
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Did Florio's TSN article make it here yet? Don't wanna double paste. He lists the five QBs who shouldn't be under pressure... because they should already be benched. Delhomme is the first one.
Did Florio's TSN article make it here yet? Don't wanna double paste. He lists the five QBs who shouldn't be under pressure... because they should already be benched. Delhomme is the first one.
He belongs on the list. He's terrible and will be terrible. Wallace will be under center before the Browns play the Steelers.
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Did Florio's TSN article make it here yet? Don't wanna double paste. He lists the five QBs who shouldn't be under pressure... because they should already be benched. Delhomme is the first one.
Did Florio's TSN article make it here yet? Don't wanna double paste. He lists the five QBs who shouldn't be under pressure... because they should already be benched. Delhomme is the first one.
How can you be benched before you have even played? Besides, Mangini said he looked great at the mini camps. Now comes the true test though. Almost to training camp, can't wait!
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More yards passing does not necessarily equate to more wins.
I'd also rather not have Ben because he has a serious history of terrible personal decisions and bad behavior. Motorcycle wreck wearing no helmet. Continues to ride helmetless. Two (reported) rapes. Terrible to the fans and normal civilians. Pissing on a golf course. This dude is a black hole to a PR department but because he wins he gets to stick around. If he hadn't "won" two superbowls his ass would be on the street now.
Did I say more yards equate to more wins? I said the defense lost 4th quarter leads after Ben drove the team down the field for the go ahead TD. The defense was to blame for a majority of the losses last season not Big Ben. I'm fairly certain of the 7 losses last season 5 were lost in the 4th quarter after giving up a lead. The defense couldn't get opposing offenses off the field in the 4th quarter. I read a article on it recently but can't find it at the moment to post.
As far as everything else is concerned and as far as I know he doesn't ride his motorcycle often if at all anymore. The first "rape" was completely thrown out and Ben actually was told to go after her by his counsel for defamation of character. She was in it for a money grab and failed. The second scenario is no different. I also suppose you're incapable of reading seeing as it wasn't Big Ben that pissed on the golf course but rather a Miami Red Hawk alumni. Oh and he DID win two Super Bowls and he'll win a few more. The Browns don't want Big Ben? LMFAO.
Homotron said:
Did I say more yards equate to more wins? I said the defense lost 4th quarter leads after Ben drove the team down the field for the go ahead TD. The defense was to blame for a majority of the losses last season not Big Ben. I'm fairly certain of the 7 losses last season 5 were lost in the 4th quarter after giving up a lead. The defense couldn't get opposing offenses off the field in the 4th quarter. I read a article on it recently but can't find it at the moment to post.As far as everything else is concerned and as far as I know he doesn't ride his motorcycle often if at all anymore. The first "rape" was completely thrown out and Ben actually was told to go after her by his counsel for defamation of character. She was in it for a money grab and failed. The second scenario is no different. I also suppose you're incapable of reading seeing as it wasn't Big Ben that pissed on the golf course but rather a Miami Red Hawk alumni. Oh and he DID win two Super Bowls and he'll win a few more. The Browns don't want Big Ben? LMFAO.
Uh the second rape scenario is clearly a different case, otherwise why would he be spending the first six weeks of the season on the bench? You are an idiot.
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Well, he had a bad game and a bad year, other than that, he has been pretty good throughout his career.
Why you have a bug up your ass about Delhomme confuses me. Did he bang your wife?
No one here is expecting miracles from Jake Delhomme. At best we are hoping for a steady veteran hand as a stopgap QB.
At worst, he will either repeat what he did last year and be benched in which case we may not be any worse off than we were last year on offense.
Perhaps the OC for the Browns ought to be seriously questioned and not the QBs.
Another couple of things: who says the Browns didn't have consistency last year at QB? They were consistently bad. That IS consistency. Also, in case you didn't notice, the Browns drafted a QB in April. Whether or not they think they will need another one come next year is beyond the power of you, me, or anyone else to figure out. If the plan is not to play McCoy, then we won't know if he will or will not be the right choice for the future. That question won't be answered for at least a year or two beyond that.
Why do your paragraphs always look so fvcked up? Yes irrelevant to the thread but that is one jacked up post and they are all that way. Do you type in large blocks and then go back and tard up the paragraph break up? You also know what type of consistency I was talking about in my previous post. Playing consistently bad is not the sort of consistency that fits anywhere in to this discussion. Is that some sort of weak attempt to make a point? A moot point. As far as Delhomme is concerned he's on the decline and went from being solid to bad and hasn't left the realm of bad. In my world that is a trend and one on a negative down turn.
Homotron said:
Why do your paragraphs always look so fvcked up?I don't know wtf you are talking about
Yes irrelevant to the thread but that is one jacked up post and they are all that way. Do you type in large blocks and then go back and tard up the paragraph break up?
Why are you acting dimwitted? What are you? The baby tomato lagging behind? Ketchup.
You also know what type of consistency I was talking about in my previous post. Playing consistently bad is not the sort of consistency that fits anywhere in to this discussion. Is that some sort of weak attempt to make a point?
No, it was an attempt to make a joke. Maybe what you need is a humor transplant. What? Did your momma burn you with a cigarette every time you laughed when you were young such that now you are so serious you can't take a joke?
A moot point. As far as Delhomme is concerned he's on the decline and went from being solid to bad and hasn't left the realm of bad. In my world that is a trend and one on a negative down turn.
Yea, and who ever argued that his career wasn't on a negative downturn? That is why he changed his scenery. It has happened numerous times that someone turned a negative downturn around. Maybe he will too. Maybe he won't. You have no clue, nor do I. (you have to look only at Kurt Warner who was a backup with the Giants at about age 34-35, and then went to Arizona and did pretty well I would say over his three years there. Like I said, it can happen)
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