Training Camp
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I'm excited to be able to attend today's afternoon session, I drove 1,367 miles to get here
I'm excited to be able to attend today's afternoon session, I drove 1,367 miles to get here
Awesome ... hope you enjoy. When you enter through the Beech Street gate, stay to the left and go as far down as you can. There is no telling which field they will practice on, but that always seems to be my best viewing area.
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I'm excited to be able to attend today's afternoon session, I drove 1,367 miles to get here
I'm excited to be able to attend today's afternoon session, I drove 1,367 miles to get here
One of the media guys tweeted this, it might help to get a good spot
"Training Camp tip 4 fans: look 4 the camera towers around 1 of the 4 fields. That's the field team 7 on 7 or 11 on 11 drills 2 be on"
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Something to keep in mind: Haden isn't the tallest corner (5'10 3/4"), but he's got very long arms (32 3/4"). That's a big help when matching up with bigger receivers, which he was exceptionally good at doing in college.
Alo, does Joe Haden use his hands a lot and do a lot of grabbing? He seemed to have that characteristic in everything he did at camp, whether it was in coverage or punt blocking. Much bordered on holding.
Alo, does Joe Haden use his hands a lot and do a lot of grabbing? He seemed to have that characteristic in everything he did at camp, whether it was in coverage or punt blocking. Much bordered on holding.
He's definitely an aggressive, physical dude. He pushes guys around and uses the sideline as another defender. Plus, he could get away with more contact playing on the college level.
One of the few negatives I noticed in the '09 tape was that Haden was less effective when covering the slot. He appeared to be more tentative and didn't resort to his normal physical style. Sheldon Brown's know to be a very good at covering the slot, so I wouldn't be surprised if Haden lines up outside against three-wide sets.
Maybe Haden will need to tone down the contact and grabbing, but I like that he matches up well against bigger, physical guys. He absolutely shut down Bama WR Julio Jones (6'4", 210) in the SEC Championship Game.
Eric Wright's a very good corner, but he's repeatedly struggled to match up with the Hines Wards of the world. Hopefully, Haden will have more success.
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Thanks for the tips
Personally I'm no expert but some of the highlights in my books were when:
-Abe Elam leveled Eric wright when he was taunting him in a drill.
-Colt McCoy seemed to complete every pass in the drills.
-Joe Haden got beat by josh cribbs on a comeback route but otherwise looked like the most athletic corner.
-James Davis had great speed and his cuts are very on point.
-Marcus Bernard was a force, making a few plays in the backfield.
I would post more but my brain is fogged a bit, I'll be back in a few days.
Oh, does anyone know any more info on a scrimmage this Saturday?
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Thanks for the tips
Personally I'm no expert but some of the highlights in my books were when:
-Abe Elam leveled Eric wright when he was taunting him in a drill.
-Colt McCoy seemed to complete every pass in the drills.
-Joe Haden got beat by josh cribbs on a comeback route but otherwise looked like the most athletic corner.
-James Davis had great speed and his cuts are very on point.
-Marcus Bernard was a force, making a few plays in the backfield.
I would post more but my brain is fogged a bit, I'll be back in a few days.
Oh, does anyone know any more info on a scrimmage this Saturday?
Thanks for the tips
Personally I'm no expert but some of the highlights in my books were when:
-Abe Elam leveled Eric wright when he was taunting him in a drill.
-Colt McCoy seemed to complete every pass in the drills.
-Joe Haden got beat by josh cribbs on a comeback route but otherwise looked like the most athletic corner.
-James Davis had great speed and his cuts are very on point.
-Marcus Bernard was a force, making a few plays in the backfield.
I would post more but my brain is fogged a bit, I'll be back in a few days.
Oh, does anyone know any more info on a scrimmage this Saturday?
Yeah, it's 1PM at the stadium- free admission.
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Thanks for the tips
Personally I'm no expert but some of the highlights in my books were when:
-Abe Elam leveled Eric wright when he was taunting him in a drill.
-Colt McCoy seemed to complete every pass in the drills.
-Joe Haden got beat by josh cribbs on a comeback route but otherwise looked like the most athletic corner.
-James Davis had great speed and his cuts are very on point.
-Marcus Bernard was a force, making a few plays in the backfield.
I would post more but my brain is fogged a bit, I'll be back in a few days.
Oh, does anyone know any more info on a scrimmage this Saturday?
Thanks for the tips
Personally I'm no expert but some of the highlights in my books were when:
-Abe Elam leveled Eric wright when he was taunting him in a drill.
-Colt McCoy seemed to complete every pass in the drills.
-Joe Haden got beat by josh cribbs on a comeback route but otherwise looked like the most athletic corner.
-James Davis had great speed and his cuts are very on point.
-Marcus Bernard was a force, making a few plays in the backfield.
I would post more but my brain is fogged a bit, I'll be back in a few days.
Oh, does anyone know any more info on a scrimmage this Saturday?
James Davis does look good. For those of you old enough, he reminds me of Greg Pruitt.
I like Bernard a lot. He never gets driven back, everything is forward momentum.
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Alo, does Joe Haden use his hands a lot and do a lot of grabbing? He seemed to have that characteristic in everything he did at camp, whether it was in coverage or punt blocking. Much bordered on holding.
He's definitely an aggressive, physical dude. He pushes guys around and uses the sideline as another defender. Plus, he could get away with more contact playing on the college level.
One of the few negatives I noticed in the '09 tape was that Haden was less effective when covering the slot. He appeared to be more tentative and didn't resort to his normal physical style. Sheldon Brown's know to be a very good at covering the slot, so I wouldn't be surprised if Haden lines up outside against three-wide sets.
Maybe Haden will need to tone down the contact and grabbing, but I like that he matches up well against bigger, physical guys. He absolutely shut down Bama WR Julio Jones (6'4", 210) in the SEC Championship Game.
Eric Wright's a very good corner, but he's repeatedly struggled to match up with the Hines Wards of the world. Hopefully, Haden will have more success.
He's definitely an aggressive, physical dude. He pushes guys around and uses the sideline as another defender. Plus, he could get away with more contact playing on the college level.
One of the few negatives I noticed in the '09 tape was that Haden was less effective when covering the slot. He appeared to be more tentative and didn't resort to his normal physical style. Sheldon Brown's know to be a very good at covering the slot, so I wouldn't be surprised if Haden lines up outside against three-wide sets.
Maybe Haden will need to tone down the contact and grabbing, but I like that he matches up well against bigger, physical guys. He absolutely shut down Bama WR Julio Jones (6'4", 210) in the SEC Championship Game.
Eric Wright's a very good corner, but he's repeatedly struggled to match up with the Hines Wards of the world. Hopefully, Haden will have more success.
Thanks Alo, good stuff and something to focus on through this month and into the early part of the season.
I think I have some more video of him around here, but its more of the same touchy feelly stuff. I hope these Refs in camp will curb the use of the hands if it is in violation, prior to it being a problem on Sundays.
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i'm interested in seeing if this guy turns into something good for the browns. let's see what ryan can get out of him.
this could be the next Blind Side movie waiting to happen! Sandra Bullock can play the role of Rob Ryan?
this could be the next Blind Side movie waiting to happen! Sandra Bullock can play the role of Rob Ryan?
i don't think sandra could pull that off. maybe rosie o'donnell or rosanne barr.
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Zombo said:
You are admiring his hair and saying he'll be starting soon .... I feel like I'm in a time machine to 2009 and your name is Shep.
Zombo
Got to admit, that was funny!!! can't wait to see you two at it come November.
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Joe Haden is tiny, but looks fast. As I stated, I didn't see a lot of him, but the kid looks like a burner.
Something to keep in mind: Haden isn't the tallest corner (5'10 3/4"), but he's got very long arms (32 3/4"). That's a big help when matching up with bigger receivers, which he was exceptionally good at doing in college.
Something to keep in mind: Haden isn't the tallest corner (5'10 3/4"), but he's got very long arms (32 3/4"). That's a big help when matching up with bigger receivers, which he was exceptionally good at doing in college.
Haden's freakishly admirable talents were highlighted in a thread just after Draft day - he did some TV programme showing what his effective cover radius and interception tipping range was and it was incredible. He could be 4 inches taller and not be any better if he didn;t have the reach and instinct that he seems to play with.
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I was there and saw that rookie Reindeer from Waterloo, my god is that kid huge. I saw him nex to the other line men and he dwarfs most of them.
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I was there and saw that rookie Reindeer from Waterloo, my god is that kid huge. I saw him nex to the other line men and he dwarfs most of them.
I was there and saw that rookie Reindeer from Waterloo, my god is that kid huge. I saw him nex to the other line men and he dwarfs most of them.
yeah- the kid got a write up in the Plain Dealer. "The Big Reindeer" In the picture, he makes the 6'3" Trusnic look like a dwarf.
But it's not all about size in the NFL- for an offensive lineman, technique does matter. It will be real interesting what the Browns do with the kid and how fast he can develop- he was playing on the equivalent of a Division III football program- for one year, a far cry from the NFL. In a perfect world, the Browns will be able to stash him on the practice squad, but if he shows fast track in the preseason, the Browns may have to hold a roster spot for him.
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It's a tough balancing act between looking a bit at the future with a guy like Reindeer and looking at the here and now.
Keeping him might cost a spot for a James Davis because runningback seems to be a area with a log jam. In the end it is harder to find top OL prospects over RB, DB,and say linebacker.
Maybe we roll the dice and keep only 2 TE's...
I really wish the NFL would alter the practice squad rules and allow 1-2 practice squad players to be "franchised" so to speak. They would be ineligible to be plucked by other teams and would be paid say 75% of NFL rookie minimum. These players could only be held in this state for 1 year. Then it is keep them or cut them loose.
I think the NFL needs to have a bit more involvement in developing it's own talent, and part of that is being able to hold on to some of that talent.
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It's a tough balancing act between looking a bit at the future with a guy like Reindeer and looking at the here and now.
Keeping him might cost a spot for a James Davis because runningback seems to be a area with a log jam. In the end it is harder to find top OL prospects over RB, DB,and say linebacker.
Maybe we roll the dice and keep only 2 TE's...
I really wish the NFL would alter the practice squad rules and allow 1-2 practice squad players to be "franchised" so to speak. They would be ineligible to be plucked by other teams and would be paid say 75% of NFL rookie minimum. These players could only be held in this state for 1 year. Then it is keep them or cut them loose.
I think the NFL needs to have a bit more involvement in developing it's own talent, and part of that is being able to hold on to some of that talent.
It's a tough balancing act between looking a bit at the future with a guy like Reindeer and looking at the here and now.
Keeping him might cost a spot for a James Davis because runningback seems to be a area with a log jam. In the end it is harder to find top OL prospects over RB, DB,and say linebacker.
Maybe we roll the dice and keep only 2 TE's...
Man, I love all of this jockeying for position.
I really wish the NFL would alter the practice squad rules and allow 1-2 practice squad players to be "franchised" so to speak. They would be ineligible to be plucked by other teams and would be paid say 75% of NFL rookie minimum. These players could only be held in this state for 1 year. Then it is keep them or cut them loose.
I think the NFL needs to have a bit more involvement in developing it's own talent, and part of that is being able to hold on to some of that talent.
All sports need to do a better job at keeping developing players. However, you have to love the roster limits in football and they jockeying as you described above.
It sucks halfway through the season, but is a big part of the 'game' at this hour.
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It's a tough balancing act between looking a bit at the future with a guy like Reindeer and looking at the here and now.
Keeping him might cost a spot for a James Davis because runningback seems to be a area with a log jam. In the end it is harder to find top OL prospects over RB, DB,and say linebacker.
Maybe we roll the dice and keep only 2 TE's...
Man, I love all of this jockeying for position.
I really wish the NFL would alter the practice squad rules and allow 1-2 practice squad players to be "franchised" so to speak. They would be ineligible to be plucked by other teams and would be paid say 75% of NFL rookie minimum. These players could only be held in this state for 1 year. Then it is keep them or cut them loose.
I think the NFL needs to have a bit more involvement in developing it's own talent, and part of that is being able to hold on to some of that talent.
All sports need to do a better job at keeping developing players. However, you have to love the roster limits in football and they jockeying as you described above.
It sucks halfway through the season, but is a big part of the 'game' at this hour.
Man, I love all of this jockeying for position.
All sports need to do a better job at keeping developing players. However, you have to love the roster limits in football and they jockeying as you described above.
It sucks halfway through the season, but is a big part of the 'game' at this hour.
It does make for some tough decisions.
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