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  • J JewDago

    cushing's round one all the way. dude has way too much talent to go anywhere else. he's been consistently solid every time i've seen USC play and has flashes of ridiculous brilliance.

    injuries are the only thing that can stop him, and he's had his share, but someone will believe they can either keep him healthy or it'll be worth it to have him on the field for a max of fourteen games every season, more likely eight to twelve, kind of like bob sanders.

    i bet most people who aren't ardent browns followers don't know how good our corners are, and therefore expect us to need an upgrade.

    @jewdago said:

    cushing's round one all the way.

    I thought the same thing about Posluzny. The injury scares might very well push Cushing into round 2, his outstanding play notwithstanding. If not, so be it.

  • Just saw on DraftDaddy that WR Brian Hartline, OSU is going to opt for the draft. He is considered a 5th round draft choice and may be the Wes Welker type we could use??? I don't follow OSU that much, so anyone want to jump in?

    Riffer XR 1 Reply

  • if cushing goes into round 2, i'd be ecstatic to get him. he's a pro, now. he needs to live in a hyperbaric chamber when he's not playing.

    hartline's had a quiet year, but can get open, knows how to sit down in a zone, and has dependable hands. he's not as shifty as welker and can't make people miss, but he can catch the ball. a #2.

  • FF Toolbox has a similar look to the one Alo posted earlier.

    1. Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State

    2. Clint Sintim, DE/OLB, Virginia

    This guy has Cushing going 13th.

  • Michael Johnson's not going to be the 2nd pick in the draft, and Aaron Curry isn't going to slide to pick #31.

    I do think he's right about Sam Bradford being the #1 pick (if he declares).

  • W WPB Dawg Fan

    Just saw on DraftDaddy that WR Brian Hartline, OSU is going to opt for the draft. He is considered a 5th round draft choice and may be the Wes Welker type we could use??? I don't follow OSU that much, so anyone want to jump in?

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Just saw on DraftDaddy that WR Brian Hartline, OSU is going to opt for the draft. He is considered a 5th round draft choice and may be the Wes Welker type we could use??? I don't follow OSU that much, so anyone want to jump in?

    I'm hoping he goes, for some reason I just don't like that kid.

    He'll be okay in the league, but he's nothing to even discuss, really. If anybody remembers Brian Stablein, this is he but a little taller and not as quick.

    I want to see the younger blood at OSU like Devier Posey and Jake Stoneburner, it's time for Hartline to go.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • someone that hasn't been mentioned in a while is george selvie, DE/OLB from USF. he's, physically, the embodiment of what a 3-4 OLB should be: big, fast, strong and a terror on the edge. i saw him play a couple times this year and he was double-teamed all game long. it should frustrate him enough to have him come out.

    in 2007, when he wasn't being double-teamed all game, here are his stats: 45 Sol-58 TT, 31.5 TFL, 14.5 SK, 9 QBH, 3 FF, 1 BLK

    2006: 54 Sol-84 TT, 14.5 TFL, 5.5 SK, 1 PBU, 9 QBH, 2 FR, 4 FF

    he didn't miss a game in either of those years, but has been hampered by an ankle injury this year.

    he's 6-4, 252 and runs a 40 that averages out to 4.72.

    he's fallen off the radar a bit because he's been squeezed all year, but has the physical tools to make the leap. thoughts?

  • I only watched one USF game this season, and it was during the time in whiich Selvie was really hobbled by the ankle injury. I'll try to catch some USF highlights & see what I think.

    According to nfldraftscout, Selvie's a Round 1 guy. If he slipped to Round 2, that'd certainly make things interesting for us.

  • Here's more of an explanation as to why Alex Mack's stock seems to be falling:

    C Alex Mack, California (Sr.)

    6-3 7⁄8, 310, 5.1e

    Is smart, naturally strong, very tough and will grind defenders into the ground with the warrior’s mentality with which he plays. However, he does not always play to his size because his hips are so tightly wound that he struggles to bend, uncoil and stay on his feet, resulting in too much time on the ground. His lack of hip flexibility has left evaluators questioning his core functional football playing strength, which is very important when trying to match up with big-bodied pluggers. Should be a solid NFL starter but always could struggle handling massive widebodies.

  • especially with haloti ngata and casey hampton (and his eventual replacement) in our division, it begs the question of whether there ever be a center who's strong enough to handle massive DTs. it's almost like we need to find a exceptionally strong tackle and convert him to center.

  • Maybe Romeo can play center and make himself useful.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply
  • [Mack]Should be a solid NFL starter but always could struggle handling massive widebodies.

    Alo, I really dug your idea of drafting a new center, but we'd just be getting a guy with Fraley's issues. Didn't Hadnot play center for a bit in MIA? Perhaps he's worth a look there...

    Thomas---Steinbach---Hadnot---Tucker/McKinney---anyone but Shaffer (perhaps Loadholt in Rd. 2?) might work...

  • hadnots's an interesting idea. he's definitely shown himself to be very, very strong.

  • J JewDago

    hadnots's an interesting idea. he's definitely shown himself to be very, very strong.

    @jewdago said:

    hadnots's an interesting idea. he's definitely shown himself to be very, very strong.

    He is average at best. focus in on him this sunday, dont watch the ball watch hadnot miss assignments 1 out of every 4 plays. Then watch him Get his World Rocked by stronger Smarter D-Lineman.

    Head or Gut?
  • S samoth

    Maybe Romeo can play center and make himself useful.

    @samoth said:

    Maybe Romeo can play center and make himself useful.

    LOL...I was thinking put a chefs hat on the guy. I bet he knows how to smoke up pork shoulder and ribs with the best of them.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • W WPB Dawg Fan

    'Peen....I think you are suffering from REVERSE HOMERISM!!!

    It is just like when we OVER-RATE a player doing well on our team....we UNDER-RATE the value of a player on our team when they don't meet expectations.

    The truth is, DA is worth at LEAST a 3rd...more likely a high 2nd. His value is experience....a manageable contract...and a big upside. He has proven he CAN do it in the league...and with all the crap going on in Cleveland right now it is very likely that opposing GM's may decide that his problems were more from the team than they were from any regression (bad play calling, WR's dropping passes, Lewis not getting yards, more sacks).

    There are only 2 QB's in this draft that will rate above him (Stafford/Bradford) and they are both underclassman and may not come out....and the FA market is thin at best. Cassel faced his first major test and failed vs Pittsburgh. McNabb is old and frail. Garcia is old and limited arm. Beyond that there is nothing. Keep in mind, Schaub got 2 2nds and had a lot less to show than DA. I bet we get a 2nd and a 3rd for him.

    As for K2....he may be injured, but he is also one of the top 4 TE's in the game. I would be surprised if he doesn't get at LEAST a 2nd...if not a couple of picks. I don't see us getting a 1st for him, but a 2nd and 3rd wouldn't surprise me at all.

    Seriously, if we trade just those 2 players, we may very well end up with the following first day:

    RD 1: Ours

    RD 2: Ours plus 2

    RD 3: Ours plus 2

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    'Peen....I think you are suffering from REVERSE HOMERISM!!!

    It is just like when we OVER-RATE a player doing well on our team....we UNDER-RATE the value of a player on our team when they don't meet expectations.

    The truth is, DA is worth at LEAST a 3rd...more likely a high 2nd. His value is experience....a manageable contract...and a big upside. He has proven he CAN do it in the league...and with all the crap going on in Cleveland right now it is very likely that opposing GM's may decide that his problems were more from the team than they were from any regression (bad play calling, WR's dropping passes, Lewis not getting yards, more sacks).

    There are only 2 QB's in this draft that will rate above him (Stafford/Bradford) and they are both underclassman and may not come out....and the FA market is thin at best. Cassel faced his first major test and failed vs Pittsburgh. McNabb is old and frail. Garcia is old and limited arm. Beyond that there is nothing. Keep in mind, Schaub got 2 2nds and had a lot less to show than DA. I bet we get a 2nd and a 3rd for him.

    As for K2....he may be injured, but he is also one of the top 4 TE's in the game. I would be surprised if he doesn't get at LEAST a 2nd...if not a couple of picks. I don't see us getting a 1st for him, but a 2nd and 3rd wouldn't surprise me at all.

    Seriously, if we trade just those 2 players, we may very well end up with the following first day:

    RD 1: Ours

    RD 2: Ours plus 2

    RD 3: Ours plus 2

    K2 and DA are an absolute key to getting what we need out of the draft. A huge effort should be made on getting quality player and not quanity. Browns better have an ace up there sleeve when it comes to the WR and RB position because the draft should concentrate on foundation positions, we need alot and this draft can't get us everything.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.

  • I love K2.

    When healthy the guy's a beast.

    Problem is he's damaged goods who is pretty high strung during games, as of late he's cost us on the field as much as he's helped.

    He's not going to be around that much longer, the damage in his knee is pretty severe, how many seasons do you think we've got in him?

    If his value is peaked and we're not going to keep getting production out of him isn't it best we get something while we can?

    REMEMBER, the NFL is a business first, loyalty costs too much.

    3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.

  • Back to the Crazy Al drafts Taylor Mays scenario, here's PFW on the future of Michael Huff:

    Raiders FS Michael Huff was benched earlier this season in favor of backup Hiram Eugene, and he remains firmly planted as the No. 2 on the depth chart, even though Eugene isn’t blowing observers away with his play. Sources in Oakland say the Raiders could revisit the option of trading Huff, the team’s first-round pick in 2006, or perhaps even consider cutting him in the offseason.

    If that's the case, then a sub-4.4 40 could put Mays at the top of the Raiders' draft board (though WR and LT are definitely bigger needs).

  • ? Guest

    Back to the Crazy Al drafts Taylor Mays scenario, here's PFW on the future of Michael Huff:

    Raiders FS Michael Huff was benched earlier this season in favor of backup Hiram Eugene, and he remains firmly planted as the No. 2 on the depth chart, even though Eugene isn’t blowing observers away with his play. Sources in Oakland say the Raiders could revisit the option of trading Huff, the team’s first-round pick in 2006, or perhaps even consider cutting him in the offseason.

    If that's the case, then a sub-4.4 40 could put Mays at the top of the Raiders' draft board (though WR and LT are definitely bigger needs).

    Aloysius said:

    Back to the Crazy Al drafts Taylor Mays scenario, here's PFW on the future of Michael Huff:

    If that's the case, then a sub-4.4 40 could put Mays at the top of the Raiders' draft board (though WR and LT are definitely bigger needs).

    I always thought Huff was over-rated coming out of college. I seen him go sissified and get out of the way of ball carriers, play chase, or step aside and try to tackle from the side, instead of head-on. This has been a common problem with our own safeties since returning to the league in 99'. If we do make a few straight on tackles, they've resulted in injuries.

    I want a bruiser ... a 'lights-out' hitter and enforcer over the middle. An eraser, that wipes away the mistakes of our putrid LB corp in both coverage and run support.

    I put a lot of emphasis into both safety positions, something we have not done as a team or philosphy since returning to the league.

    I doubt I'd pay Sean Jones a bonus to see if he could regain some form, I'd like to find our guy in the draft (someday).

  • in the last three weeks of the season, the raiders play new england at home, houston at home and then go on the road against tampa bay. they won't win against NE. it's possible, but very improbable, that they could somehow win against houston, but i don't really see it happening. the texans can put up too many points and the raiders can't score any.

    however, it's possible that TB could be in a position to rest their starters in week 17. if that happens, it would be the best scenario for the raiders to get their fourth win and possibly let us slip ahead of them in the draft.

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