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  • FREAKofSTEELROIDS08 said:

    QUOTE (Brownsfan_Althaus @ Aug 7 2010, 01:13 PM)

    yeah, a steelers fan would say that we will see how you guys do this year.

    Probably better than the Browns have done over the last 12 yrds or so....

    We were 10-6 in 07 and pissburgh went 9-7 last season so there goes that theory.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @speedyd900rr said:

    We were 10-6 in 07 and pissburgh went 9-7 last season so there goes that theory.

    Lol what? Rationalize this post for me or are you really this Retarded? Pittsburgh also finished 10-6 but were first in the division that year and lost to the Jags in the Wild card. Where exactly does the Browns record in 07 have any bearing on A. His comment. B. The Steelers record this past season?

    Are you sure you aren't autistic?

  • FREAKofSTEELROIDS08 said:

    QUOTE (Brownsfan_Althaus @ Aug 7 2010, 01:13 PM)

    yeah, a steelers fan would say that we will see how you guys do this year.

    Probably better than the Browns have done over the last 12 yrds or so....

    We were 10-6 in 07 and pissburgh went 9-7 last season so there goes that theory.

    BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    @speedyd900rr said:

    We were 10-6 in 07 and pissburgh went 9-7 last season so there goes that theory.

    LOL HoMotron.... Plus those TWO Seasons represent some kind of "Trend" ?? Speeeedyd I would stay out of the Business world if I were You. Keep on Flipping Burgers dude.

  • @dencyguy said:

    Again, though, "bad calls" doesn't mean "fixed game."...

    Give me some evidence other than "It really makes you wonder...," and I'll be happy to re-consider my opinion....

    That game was fixed. I taped it and watched the whole thing a number of times in the weeks and months of the aftermath later. Some plays & sequences over and over and in slow motion to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing. "Two bad calls" in the 4th quarter doesn't even begin to describe the officiating bias in that game. In addition to the big, glaring bad calls, there were a multitude of little things like bad ball spots for the Seahawks and uncalled penalties on the Steelers, etc. all game long that most people don't notice or talk about now. Cumulatively, it can be seen that the Seahawks simply were not to be allowed to win that game. The Steelers were to be given such a huge compettive advantage in the officiating department, that it would be next to impossible for the Seahawks (or any other NFL team for that matter) to overcome. I lost an enormous amount of respect for the NFL that day. Not just as a Seahawks fan, but as a football fan in general.

    S Spunkonmyback DPOY wrote on last edited by Spunkonmyback DPOY
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    @seahawksbrowns_fan said:

    That game was fixed. I taped it and watched the whole thing a number of times in the weeks and months of the aftermath later. Some plays & sequences over and over and in slow motion to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing. "Two bad calls" in the 4th quarter doesn't even begin to describe the officiating bias in that game. In addition to the big, glaring bad calls, there were a multitude of little things like bad ball spots for the Seahawks and uncalled penalties on the Steelers, etc. all game long that most people don't notice or talk about now. Cumulatively, it can be seen that the Seahawks simply were not to be allowed to win that game. The Steelers were to be given such a huge compettive advantage in the officiating department, that it would be next to impossible for the Seahawks (or any other NFL team for that matter) to overcome. I lost an enormous amount of respect for the NFL that day. Not just as a Seahawks fan, but as a football fan in general.

    I also have that game on DVD....Remember Stevens fumbled that was ruled imcomplete?

    If you are giving the ref credibility that he admitted he made two wrong calls in just the 4th, then you are giving him credibility that since he didn't regret calls in the first 3 quarters they were all the correct calls....You can't have it both ways.

  • @seahawksbrowns_fan said:

    That game was fixed. I taped it and watched the whole thing a number of times in the weeks and months of the aftermath later. Some plays & sequences over and over and in slow motion to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing. "Two bad calls" in the 4th quarter doesn't even begin to describe the officiating bias in that game. In addition to the big, glaring bad calls, there were a multitude of little things like bad ball spots for the Seahawks and uncalled penalties on the Steelers, etc. all game long that most people don't notice or talk about now. Cumulatively, it can be seen that the Seahawks simply were not to be allowed to win that game. The Steelers were to be given such a huge compettive advantage in the officiating department, that it would be next to impossible for the Seahawks (or any other NFL team for that matter) to overcome. I lost an enormous amount of respect for the NFL that day. Not just as a Seahawks fan, but as a football fan in general.

    I also have that game on DVD....Remember Stevens fumbled that was ruled imcomplete?

    If you are giving the ref credibility that he admitted he made two wrong calls in just the 4th, then you are giving him credibility that since he didn't regret calls in the first 3 quarters they were all the correct calls....You can't have it both ways.

    BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    @spunkonmyback-dpoy said:

    I also have that game on DVD....Remember Stevens fumbled that was ruled imcomplete?

    If you are giving the ref credibility that he admitted he made two wrong calls in just the 4th, then you are giving him credibility that since he didn't regret calls in the first 3 quarters they were all the correct calls....You can't have it both ways.

    Sure he can ...he is Bitter. Cant see a Freaking thing past the GREEN Light that continually Flashes in his dome while watching Pittsburgh Steelers Football. Bitter Fruit ...sour Grape... Green-eyed Monster , you name it. They ALL Deny it but its like the Nose on a Lying Pinocchio`s face. You cant miss it. look ... You can see it , right ? But they cant ... Sad but true.

  • Brownsfan_AlthausB Brownsfan_Althaus wrote on last edited by
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    Ohh squeeler fans.. they always brighten my day.

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  • P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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    Most sensible Steeler fans that I know realized that their team received quite a few gifts in that game and that it most definitely helped determine the outcome of the game. It doesn't make the Steelers any less deserving IMO. It is part of the game. Bad calls happen. They just happened a lot in that SB and the vast majority went the Steelers' way.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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    two words to dispel the "it takes a whole country to or there must be a huge conspiracy" to change the outcome of games: TIM DONAGHY.

  • Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    Hell with the Superbowl, I'm still pissed about Larry Anderson's fumble on the OT kickoff in 1978 @Three Rivers 😕

  • Most sensible Steeler fans that I know realized that their team received quite a few gifts in that game and that it most definitely helped determine the outcome of the game. It doesn't make the Steelers any less deserving IMO. It is part of the game. Bad calls happen. They just happened a lot in that SB and the vast majority went the Steelers' way.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    Most sensible Steeler fans that I know realized that their team received quite a few gifts in that game and that it most definitely helped determine the outcome of the game. It doesn't make the Steelers any less deserving IMO. It is part of the game. Bad calls happen. They just happened a lot in that SB and the vast majority went the Steelers' way.

    The calls went both ways that game. I can't tell you how many times I've been through this same song and dance in the past and quite frankly I'm tired of arguing about it. I broke the entire game down at one point and poor calls certainly hit both teams. One fact remains in my opinion and that's if the outcome was in some way reversed. Everyone would be bitching about the missed calls in the Steelers favor and not the other way around. The bottom line is the better team won that game and over came A LOT of poor calls leading up to the Super Bowl. What goes around comes around. Levy should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up this far gone. If he had such a issue with his calls he should have brought it up immediately and made it known he felt he made a few mistakes. I guess with the Steelers off season he figured he should just take the opportunity to pile it on and rid himself of some guilt.

  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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    Will the Stoolers EVER win an honest championship? They have yet to do so after a century, so it doesn't look likely.

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    Most sensible Steeler fans that I know realized that their team received quite a few gifts in that game and that it most definitely helped determine the outcome of the game. It doesn't make the Steelers any less deserving IMO. It is part of the game. Bad calls happen. They just happened a lot in that SB and the vast majority went the Steelers' way.

    The calls went both ways that game. I can't tell you how many times I've been through this same song and dance in the past and quite frankly I'm tired of arguing about it. I broke the entire game down at one point and poor calls certainly hit both teams. One fact remains in my opinion and that's if the outcome was in some way reversed. Everyone would be bitching about the missed calls in the Steelers favor and not the other way around. The bottom line is the better team won that game and over came A LOT of poor calls leading up to the Super Bowl. What goes around comes around. Levy should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up this far gone. If he had such a issue with his calls he should have brought it up immediately and made it known he felt he made a few mistakes. I guess with the Steelers off season he figured he should just take the opportunity to pile it on and rid himself of some guilt.

    P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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    Homotron said:

    The calls went both ways that game. I can't tell you how many times I've been through this same song and dance in the past and quite frankly I'm tired of arguing about it. I broke the entire game down at one point and poor calls certainly hit both teams. One fact remains in my opinion and that's if the outcome was in some way reversed. Everyone would be bitching about the missed calls in the Steelers favor and not the other way around. The bottom line is the better team won that game and over came A LOT of poor calls leading up to the Super Bowl. What goes around comes around. Levy should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up this far gone. If he had such a issue with his calls he should have brought it up immediately and made it known he felt he made a few mistakes. I guess with the Steelers off season he figured he should just take the opportunity to pile it on and rid himself of some guilt.

    It's funny, no other fan outside of Steeler fans agree with you. How do you explain that every other fan out there plus the ref in the game saying that Seattle got hosed? Even a few Steeler fans that I know realized that they benefited from poor officiating.

  • Will the Stoolers EVER win an honest championship? They have yet to do so after a century, so it doesn't look likely.

    P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Will the Stoolers EVER win an honest championship? They have yet to do so after a century, so it doesn't look likely.

    What exactly was wrong with their XLIII win?

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    Will the Stoolers EVER win an honest championship? They have yet to do so after a century, so it doesn't look likely.

    What exactly was wrong with their XLIII win?

    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    What exactly was wrong with their XLIII win?

    From a Cardinals fan point of view

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    What exactly was wrong with their XLIII win?

    From a Cardinals fan point of view

    P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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    @clevelandmilidh said:

    From a Cardinals fan point of view

    Now those are sour grapes. Seattle fans have a beef, Arizona fans do not. All of those plays were borderline at best. If that is the best evidence that a Cardinal fan can come up with then they really don't have a leg to stand on.

  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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    the last one was a clear forward pass. lets not forget the non-ejection of Roid Harrison. Plus they were stull using HGH then.

  • Homotron said:

    The calls went both ways that game. I can't tell you how many times I've been through this same song and dance in the past and quite frankly I'm tired of arguing about it. I broke the entire game down at one point and poor calls certainly hit both teams. One fact remains in my opinion and that's if the outcome was in some way reversed. Everyone would be bitching about the missed calls in the Steelers favor and not the other way around. The bottom line is the better team won that game and over came A LOT of poor calls leading up to the Super Bowl. What goes around comes around. Levy should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up this far gone. If he had such a issue with his calls he should have brought it up immediately and made it known he felt he made a few mistakes. I guess with the Steelers off season he figured he should just take the opportunity to pile it on and rid himself of some guilt.

    It's funny, no other fan outside of Steeler fans agree with you. How do you explain that every other fan out there plus the ref in the game saying that Seattle got hosed? Even a few Steeler fans that I know realized that they benefited from poor officiating.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    It's funny, no other fan outside of Steeler fans agree with you. How do you explain that every other fan out there plus the ref in the game saying that Seattle got hosed? Even a few Steeler fans that I know realized that they benefited from poor officiating.

    And what fan experience do you have exactly outside of your own city? Everyone outside Pittsburgh thinks "X" but how many different walks of fandom have you encountered? Obviously Cleveland thinks the fix was in because Cleveland hates Pittsburgh. The Seahawks cry because it was their team that lost. Ravens fans, Bengal fans can all be lumped in to category one. What other fans have you encountered to confirm your assumption? I'd wager not many and after that game SOOOOO many people broke down game tape and in just about every instance calls were shown that went BOTH ways. The game was not officiated perfectly but how many games are? The Jackson pass interference call was a blatant push off IN THE END ZONE. James Harrison was being held almost the ENTIRE game. Hell that man gets held every game and it's rarely called, maybe one of the bigger officiating travesty's in the NFL.

    You all HAVE to be kidding with this sh.it. It's one thing to hate Pittsburgh it's something completely different when you hate in irrational fashion. All you hear are the bitter bobbies of the world crying about that game. You never hear the other side of the argument because no one outside of Pittsburgh cares to argue the other side. If we're being honest how many other fan bases hate the Steelers? It's certainly more than those that hate the Browns. Sooooooo you shouldn't be surprised when you hear more about Seattle choking and losing that game, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DID. Time management on the Seahawks part was TERRIBLE, absolutely terrible and penalties or not they still would have lost that game. THe calls would have "impacted the game" as in the Seahawks may have scored once more but "would have had impact" doesn't say "would have won" and that's the bottom line. They still WOULD HAVE lost.

  • the last one was a clear forward pass. lets not forget the non-ejection of Roid Harrison. Plus they were stull using HGH then.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @pumpkin-eater said:

    the last one was a clear forward pass. lets not forget the non-ejection of Roid Harrison. Plus they were stull using HGH then.

    How does it feel to be a mouth breather? When it's humid out do you stay inside full time? And as far as Harrison is concerned I'm assuming you're referring to the "unnecessary roughness" on that one block? Check the game tape a few minutes before when the mental midget on the cardinals was throwing himself at Harrison's legs. In addition and the last I checked you continue playing until the final whistle. Harrison was just making sure leg diver was blocked lol.

  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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    I hope that someday the true stooler fans will get a true, honest championship out of their team. They've been waiting almost a century. Only the Cubs have made their fans wait longer.

  • VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    mikeyP72 said:

    You have to look at like this too Robo: Your a STEELER FAN, how objectively are you looking at it?

    I completely agree BUT it is what it is and if anyone took the time to break down the tape you'd see the Seahawks still would have lost that game. The time management in particular at the end of that game was god awful. It's not like Pittsburgh won by 3 points and say the Seahawks did score before Hasselbeck through that INT after the hold. Pittsburgh still would have gotten the ball back and they still would have had the lead. It's all sour grapes at this point and Levy should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up this late in the life cycle. He could have came out immediately after the game but no he waits until he's in front of Seahawks fans several years later and "drops the bomb" to save some face. I guess he just figured he'd pile it on the already troublesome off season and that he'd fly under the radar. The people complaining about STeeler championships are all butt hurt. If it isn't HGH or anabolics, it's blown calls and something else. All of which more often than not trickles out from good ol Cleveland.

    Next election Gallop should just poll Cleveland because it's CLEAR the opinion of the Cleveland Browns fan base is representative of the entire United States. Why waste your time with the other 49.

  • I hope that someday the true stooler fans will get a true, honest championship out of their team. They've been waiting almost a century. Only the Cubs have made their fans wait longer.

    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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    @pumpkin-eater said:

    I hope that someday the true stooler fans will get a true, honest championship out of their team. They've been waiting almost a century. Only the Cubs have made their fans wait longer.

    Do you take pride in being a individual of diminished mental capacity? It sure seems like it's something you've worked hard for and that alone is a astonishing feat. Working to appear mentally diminished.