AFC North predictions
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1. Baltimore 12-4
2. Cincy 10-6
3. Cleveland 9-7
4. Pittsburgh 5-11
Sorry but your franchise has gone to shit.
Lol
You've clearly lost your mind. I would love for someone to explain why the franchise has gone to "shit" Returning every defensive starter and the only subtraction worth talking about offensively is Holmes. Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team.
Homotron said:
Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team.I'm looking at the schedule and the most I can come up with is 9 wins. I think 10 wins is the absolute ceiling for Pitt this year. That offensive line is not good and most of their easier games are on the road.
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This thread is great! I think you all have been smoking some left handed cigarettes. The Steelers are going nowhere this year. They will likely finish last in the division. And to Homotron. Pittsburgh wasn't a 10 win team last year!!!! So they can return whoever and they still won't be a ten win team this year. Oh wait ! And RAPELISBURGER has at least a 4 game suspension. Damn good thing you have Dixon and not the crap backup qb's that the Bungholes have. Quinn might even be better then those losers. And wow does he SUCK! Here is how I see it shaking out.
Baltimore 11-5
Cincinnati Bungholes 10-6
Cleveland Browns 8-8
Sqeelers 7-9
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1. Baltimore 10-6
2. Pittsburgh 9-7
3. Cincy 8-8
4. Cleveland 7-9
Very Tight Division ...Rats Rock Solid Offense Better , Defense Good enough ... Pittsburgh Struggles early 1-3 minus BR , then Takes a couple more weeks to get Solid after his return. Bengals Underachieve Shocking... Browns Offense Great Improvement ...but defense Fails to sustain , 2011 will be VERY Interesting.
1. Baltimore 10-6
2. Pittsburgh 9-7
3. Cincy 8-8
4. Cleveland 7-9
Very Tight Division ...Rats Rock Solid Offense Better , Defense Good enough ... Pittsburgh Struggles early 1-3 minus BR , then Takes a couple more weeks to get Solid after his return. Bengals Underachieve Shocking... Browns Offense Great Improvement ...but defense Fails to sustain , 2011 will be VERY Interesting.
I think this sounds about right, though I might switch Pitt and Cinci, though that is not a big switch. No Wild Cards out of this division I don't believe.
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Not going to predict records, but I think the Ravens are the early favorite, and the team to beat in this division. With the Browns being improved, it is going to be a rat race with the rest of the division. It is definitely going to be an interesting season to say the least.
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Questions on this topic:
1. Haven't the Ravens suffered a series of injuries that might hurt their chances? Also, can the aging of some of the key components of their defense be an issue....Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, etc.?
2. Will the Bengals lose their yo-yo performance and actually have 2 good years in a row? Will the Ocho/T.O. circus be a positive or a negative for that team?
3. Can the return of Polamalu and Justin? Aaron? Whatever Smith allow the Steeler defense return to dominance or not? Will the BR fiasco be a distraction to that team? Will Dixon/Leftwich be an adequate replacement for BR while he is out?
4. For the Browns, can Delhomme return to his good form or will he be the bad Delhomme of last year? Can the organizational aptitude of Mike Holmgren bring immediate dividends in the form of having the Browns be an actual competitive team as they were the last 4 games of last year?
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Homotron said:
Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team.I'm looking at the schedule and the most I can come up with is 9 wins. I think 10 wins is the absolute ceiling for Pitt this year. That offensive line is not good and most of their easier games are on the road.
I'm looking at the schedule and the most I can come up with is 9 wins. I think 10 wins is the absolute ceiling for Pitt this year. That offensive line is not good and most of their easier games are on the road.
I'm glad everyone is sleeping on the Steelers this year. They relish the underdog light and always excel when the national media doubts their ability to win. Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade. We also have a huge offensive line and Adams should adjust by the time the regular season rolls around to the RT position. The Defense on the other hand is going to be ridiculous. Polamalu and Aaron Smith returning healthy is huge. We played most of last season without Troy but apparently everyone chooses to forget just how many games he missed. Add in the fact that Harrison played most of last year with torn ligaments in his arm and Bryant McFadden is back in the starting line up with Gay at Nickel and the defense is as good if not better than the squad that went to the Bowl against the Cards. We're talking best defense of all time statistically. The fan base in Pittsburgh is also officially calling for Dennis Dixon and I whole heartedly believe with our defense and him behind center we can come out of the suspension with at least 2 wins, possibly more. He nearly beat the Ravens last season without Smith and Polamalu.
Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team. Keying on the "at least" portion. I'm expecting 11-5 or 12-4 outing but said 10 to temper my optimism. All of which is precisely why I laugh hysterically when people say Pittsburgh is done. Lol based on what exactly? Factor in all our injuries last year, yes I understand injuries happen but they are still relevant. Return those injured players and we don't lose 7 games last season. We don't lose 5 games last season. Pittsburgh with a healthy troy and Aaron Smith and Harrison for that matter were a 12 win team last season, if not more. We didn't lose a game by more than 7 points and most of the games were lost in the 4th quarter. Now I don't know what planet that constitutes a implosion but it's somewhere far, far away.
Keep sleeping on the Steelers. Please. It will make everything that much more amusing when the cards fall this season.
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I'm looking at the schedule and the most I can come up with is 9 wins. I think 10 wins is the absolute ceiling for Pitt this year. That offensive line is not good and most of their easier games are on the road.
I'm glad everyone is sleeping on the Steelers this year. They relish the underdog light and always excel when the national media doubts their ability to win. Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade. We also have a huge offensive line and Adams should adjust by the time the regular season rolls around to the RT position. The Defense on the other hand is going to be ridiculous. Polamalu and Aaron Smith returning healthy is huge. We played most of last season without Troy but apparently everyone chooses to forget just how many games he missed. Add in the fact that Harrison played most of last year with torn ligaments in his arm and Bryant McFadden is back in the starting line up with Gay at Nickel and the defense is as good if not better than the squad that went to the Bowl against the Cards. We're talking best defense of all time statistically. The fan base in Pittsburgh is also officially calling for Dennis Dixon and I whole heartedly believe with our defense and him behind center we can come out of the suspension with at least 2 wins, possibly more. He nearly beat the Ravens last season without Smith and Polamalu.
Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team. Keying on the "at least" portion. I'm expecting 11-5 or 12-4 outing but said 10 to temper my optimism. All of which is precisely why I laugh hysterically when people say Pittsburgh is done. Lol based on what exactly? Factor in all our injuries last year, yes I understand injuries happen but they are still relevant. Return those injured players and we don't lose 7 games last season. We don't lose 5 games last season. Pittsburgh with a healthy troy and Aaron Smith and Harrison for that matter were a 12 win team last season, if not more. We didn't lose a game by more than 7 points and most of the games were lost in the 4th quarter. Now I don't know what planet that constitutes a implosion but it's somewhere far, far away.
Keep sleeping on the Steelers. Please. It will make everything that much more amusing when the cards fall this season.
Homotron said:
I'm glad everyone is sleeping on the Steelers this year. They relish the underdog light and always excel when the national media doubts their ability to win. Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade. We also have a huge offensive line and Adams should adjust by the time the regular season rolls around to the RT position. The Defense on the other hand is going to be ridiculous. Polamalu and Aaron Smith returning healthy is huge. We played most of last season without Troy but apparently everyone chooses to forget just how many games he missed. Add in the fact that Harrison played most of last year with torn ligaments in his arm and Bryant McFadden is back in the starting line up with Gay at Nickel and the defense is as good if not better than the squad that went to the Bowl against the Cards. We're talking best defense of all time statistically. The fan base in Pittsburgh is also officially calling for Dennis Dixon and I whole heartedly believe with our defense and him behind center we can come out of the suspension with at least 2 wins, possibly more. He nearly beat the Ravens last season without Smith and Polamalu.Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team. Keying on the "at least" portion. I'm expecting 11-5 or 12-4 outing but said 10 to temper my optimism. All of which is precisely why I laugh hysterically when people say Pittsburgh is done. Lol based on what exactly? Factor in all our injuries last year, yes I understand injuries happen but they are still relevant. Return those injured players and we don't lose 7 games last season. We don't lose 5 games last season. Pittsburgh with a healthy troy and Aaron Smith and Harrison for that matter were a 12 win team last season, if not more. We didn't lose a game by more than 7 points and most of the games were lost in the 4th quarter. Now I don't know what planet that constitutes a implosion but it's somewhere far, far away.
Keep sleeping on the Steelers. Please. It will make everything that much more amusing when the cards fall this season.
Why don't you cut to the chase and give your prediction on the entire division.
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Homotron said:
I'm glad everyone is sleeping on the Steelers this year. They relish the underdog light and always excel when the national media doubts their ability to win. Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade. We also have a huge offensive line and Adams should adjust by the time the regular season rolls around to the RT position. The Defense on the other hand is going to be ridiculous. Polamalu and Aaron Smith returning healthy is huge. We played most of last season without Troy but apparently everyone chooses to forget just how many games he missed. Add in the fact that Harrison played most of last year with torn ligaments in his arm and Bryant McFadden is back in the starting line up with Gay at Nickel and the defense is as good if not better than the squad that went to the Bowl against the Cards. We're talking best defense of all time statistically. The fan base in Pittsburgh is also officially calling for Dennis Dixon and I whole heartedly believe with our defense and him behind center we can come out of the suspension with at least 2 wins, possibly more. He nearly beat the Ravens last season without Smith and Polamalu.Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team. Keying on the "at least" portion. I'm expecting 11-5 or 12-4 outing but said 10 to temper my optimism. All of which is precisely why I laugh hysterically when people say Pittsburgh is done. Lol based on what exactly? Factor in all our injuries last year, yes I understand injuries happen but they are still relevant. Return those injured players and we don't lose 7 games last season. We don't lose 5 games last season. Pittsburgh with a healthy troy and Aaron Smith and Harrison for that matter were a 12 win team last season, if not more. We didn't lose a game by more than 7 points and most of the games were lost in the 4th quarter. Now I don't know what planet that constitutes a implosion but it's somewhere far, far away.
Keep sleeping on the Steelers. Please. It will make everything that much more amusing when the cards fall this season.
Why don't you cut to the chase and give your prediction on the entire division.
Why don't you cut to the chase and give your prediction on the entire division.
Ravens: 12-4
Pittsburgh: 11-5 (only because of the 4 game suspension)
Bengals: 9-7
Browns: 6-10
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I'm looking at the schedule and the most I can come up with is 9 wins. I think 10 wins is the absolute ceiling for Pitt this year. That offensive line is not good and most of their easier games are on the road.
I'm glad everyone is sleeping on the Steelers this year. They relish the underdog light and always excel when the national media doubts their ability to win. Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade. We also have a huge offensive line and Adams should adjust by the time the regular season rolls around to the RT position. The Defense on the other hand is going to be ridiculous. Polamalu and Aaron Smith returning healthy is huge. We played most of last season without Troy but apparently everyone chooses to forget just how many games he missed. Add in the fact that Harrison played most of last year with torn ligaments in his arm and Bryant McFadden is back in the starting line up with Gay at Nickel and the defense is as good if not better than the squad that went to the Bowl against the Cards. We're talking best defense of all time statistically. The fan base in Pittsburgh is also officially calling for Dennis Dixon and I whole heartedly believe with our defense and him behind center we can come out of the suspension with at least 2 wins, possibly more. He nearly beat the Ravens last season without Smith and Polamalu.
Pittsburgh is at least a 10 win team. Keying on the "at least" portion. I'm expecting 11-5 or 12-4 outing but said 10 to temper my optimism. All of which is precisely why I laugh hysterically when people say Pittsburgh is done. Lol based on what exactly? Factor in all our injuries last year, yes I understand injuries happen but they are still relevant. Return those injured players and we don't lose 7 games last season. We don't lose 5 games last season. Pittsburgh with a healthy troy and Aaron Smith and Harrison for that matter were a 12 win team last season, if not more. We didn't lose a game by more than 7 points and most of the games were lost in the 4th quarter. Now I don't know what planet that constitutes a implosion but it's somewhere far, far away.
Keep sleeping on the Steelers. Please. It will make everything that much more amusing when the cards fall this season.
Homotron said:
Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade.That line last year was middle of the road in run blocking and only had 9 rushing TDs while giving up the second most sacks in the NFL. Do you think replacing Colon with an over the hill Adams is going to help that. Also, while I think Pouncey will be good, using a rookie at center is not a recipe for success either.
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Homotron said:
Everyone says the offensive line isn't good but we won a Super Bowl behind that offensive line and Ben had solid stats that season. Pouncey is likely going to start at center and that's a immediate upgrade.That line last year was middle of the road in run blocking and only had 9 rushing TDs while giving up the second most sacks in the NFL. Do you think replacing Colon with an over the hill Adams is going to help that. Also, while I think Pouncey will be good, using a rookie at center is not a recipe for success either.
That line last year was middle of the road in run blocking and only had 9 rushing TDs while giving up the second most sacks in the NFL. Do you think replacing Colon with an over the hill Adams is going to help that. Also, while I think Pouncey will be good, using a rookie at center is not a recipe for success either.
Flozell Adams will adjust and before you go spouting off rushing statistics you may want to A. Look at the number of pass attempts vs rush attempts and B. Factor in the fact that Mendenhall didn't go the full season. As far as Pouncey is concerned or rookie centers in general it depends on the intelligence of said player in obvious conjunction with athletic ability. Pouncey apparently has plenty of both. I also expect our offensive line to be much more physical with Sean Kugler now the offensive line coach. He preaches mean streak and I believe that's what he'll get. The offensive line will be solid and Pittsburgh will be deep in the playoffs. Once again I love that people are sleeping on the Steelers. Dixon or Lefwich for that matter are very capable of getting 2-3 wins in that 4 game stint. Hell I'd go as far as saying 4 wins if Dixon gets the start just because of his ability to run and the would be prowess of our defense. Everyone is going to sh.it their pants if Pittsburgh comes out of that suspension at 4-0. Big Ben has also had a flawless camp and is apparently in the best shape of his career.
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That line last year was middle of the road in run blocking and only had 9 rushing TDs while giving up the second most sacks in the NFL. Do you think replacing Colon with an over the hill Adams is going to help that. Also, while I think Pouncey will be good, using a rookie at center is not a recipe for success either.
Flozell Adams will adjust and before you go spouting off rushing statistics you may want to A. Look at the number of pass attempts vs rush attempts and B. Factor in the fact that Mendenhall didn't go the full season. As far as Pouncey is concerned or rookie centers in general it depends on the intelligence of said player in obvious conjunction with athletic ability. Pouncey apparently has plenty of both. I also expect our offensive line to be much more physical with Sean Kugler now the offensive line coach. He preaches mean streak and I believe that's what he'll get. The offensive line will be solid and Pittsburgh will be deep in the playoffs. Once again I love that people are sleeping on the Steelers. Dixon or Lefwich for that matter are very capable of getting 2-3 wins in that 4 game stint. Hell I'd go as far as saying 4 wins if Dixon gets the start just because of his ability to run and the would be prowess of our defense. Everyone is going to sh.it their pants if Pittsburgh comes out of that suspension at 4-0. Big Ben has also had a flawless camp and is apparently in the best shape of his career.
Homotron said:
Flozell Adams will adjust and before you go spouting off rushing statistics you may want to A. Look at the number of pass attempts vs rush attempts and B. Factor in the fact that Mendenhall didn't go the full season. As far as Pouncey is concerned or rookie centers in general it depends on the intelligence of said player in obvious conjunction with athletic ability. Pouncey apparently has plenty of both. I also expect our offensive line to be much more physical with Sean Kugler now the offensive line coach. He preaches mean streak and I believe that's what he'll get. The offensive line will be solid and Pittsburgh will be deep in the playoffs. Once again I love that people are sleeping on the Steelers. Dixon or Lefwich for that matter are very capable of getting 2-3 wins in that 4 game stint. Hell I'd go as far as saying 4 wins if Dixon gets the start just because of his ability to run and the would be prowess of our defense. Everyone is going to sh.it their pants if Pittsburgh comes out of that suspension at 4-0. Big Ben has also had a flawless camp and is apparently in the best shape of his career.You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
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Homotron said:
Flozell Adams will adjust and before you go spouting off rushing statistics you may want to A. Look at the number of pass attempts vs rush attempts and B. Factor in the fact that Mendenhall didn't go the full season. As far as Pouncey is concerned or rookie centers in general it depends on the intelligence of said player in obvious conjunction with athletic ability. Pouncey apparently has plenty of both. I also expect our offensive line to be much more physical with Sean Kugler now the offensive line coach. He preaches mean streak and I believe that's what he'll get. The offensive line will be solid and Pittsburgh will be deep in the playoffs. Once again I love that people are sleeping on the Steelers. Dixon or Lefwich for that matter are very capable of getting 2-3 wins in that 4 game stint. Hell I'd go as far as saying 4 wins if Dixon gets the start just because of his ability to run and the would be prowess of our defense. Everyone is going to sh.it their pants if Pittsburgh comes out of that suspension at 4-0. Big Ben has also had a flawless camp and is apparently in the best shape of his career.You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
Pittsburgh didn't take a flyer on him because of his ability to pass protect. Look at his run play stats, completely different animal and precisely why Pittsburgh took the Adams leap. He'll adjust to the RT position and be what he needs to be when we run the ball. He doesn't have to go against the top DE/LB pass rush at RT. All we need is for him to be marginal in pass protection and above average on the run. He fits the bill on the run.
As I'm sure you know the LT position is a different position. He'll do fine at RT and if he doesn't they'll cut him and plug someone else in...
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Zombo said:
You are hoping your starting right tackle can be "marginal" at pass protection? You know ... they came from the right-side too. Are you also hoping that your receivers are "decent catchers" that your running backs are "kinda fast" and that your quarterbacks are"sorta accurate"?Zombo
I'm just saying that Pittsburgh didn't take a chance on him because of his ability to pass protect. Marginal aka middle of the road will do just fine at RT because the last i checked Ben is pretty damn mobile and at least he can see whomever coming from the right side and do something about it. As far as everything else is concerned I don't need to hope. We have plenty of speed at those respective positions.
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Zombo said:
You are hoping your starting right tackle can be "marginal" at pass protection? You know ... they came from the right-side too. Are you also hoping that your receivers are "decent catchers" that your running backs are "kinda fast" and that your quarterbacks are"sorta accurate"?Zombo
I'm just saying that Pittsburgh didn't take a chance on him because of his ability to pass protect. Marginal aka middle of the road will do just fine at RT because the last i checked Ben is pretty damn mobile and at least he can see whomever coming from the right side and do something about it. As far as everything else is concerned I don't need to hope. We have plenty of speed at those respective positions.
Homotron said:
I'm just saying that Pittsburgh didn't take a chance on him because of his ability to pass protect. Marginal aka middle of the road will do just fine at RT because the last i checked Ben is pretty damn mobile and at least he can see whomever coming from the right side and do something about it. As far as everything else is concerned I don't need to hope. We have plenty of speed at those respective positions.The problem is that who do you have to replace Adams? Hint, hint: There aren't all any. They all suck.
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Homotron said:
Flozell Adams will adjust and before you go spouting off rushing statistics you may want to A. Look at the number of pass attempts vs rush attempts and B. Factor in the fact that Mendenhall didn't go the full season. As far as Pouncey is concerned or rookie centers in general it depends on the intelligence of said player in obvious conjunction with athletic ability. Pouncey apparently has plenty of both. I also expect our offensive line to be much more physical with Sean Kugler now the offensive line coach. He preaches mean streak and I believe that's what he'll get. The offensive line will be solid and Pittsburgh will be deep in the playoffs. Once again I love that people are sleeping on the Steelers. Dixon or Lefwich for that matter are very capable of getting 2-3 wins in that 4 game stint. Hell I'd go as far as saying 4 wins if Dixon gets the start just because of his ability to run and the would be prowess of our defense. Everyone is going to sh.it their pants if Pittsburgh comes out of that suspension at 4-0. Big Ben has also had a flawless camp and is apparently in the best shape of his career.You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
Yes, this "gentleman" only sees it one way: "Delhomme is over the hill and will be terrible" ...But....Adams will "settle in and adjust".
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You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
Pittsburgh didn't take a flyer on him because of his ability to pass protect. Look at his run play stats, completely different animal and precisely why Pittsburgh took the Adams leap. He'll adjust to the RT position and be what he needs to be when we run the ball. He doesn't have to go against the top DE/LB pass rush at RT. All we need is for him to be marginal in pass protection and above average on the run. He fits the bill on the run.
As I'm sure you know the LT position is a different position. He'll do fine at RT and if he doesn't they'll cut him and plug someone else in...
Homotron said:
Pittsburgh didn't take a flyer on him because of his ability to pass protect. Look at his run play stats, completely different animal and precisely why Pittsburgh took the Adams leap. He'll adjust to the RT position and be what he needs to be when we run the ball. He doesn't have to go against the top DE/LB pass rush at RT. All we need is for him to be marginal in pass protection and above average on the run. He fits the bill on the run.As I'm sure you know the LT position is a different position. He'll do fine at RT and if he doesn't they'll cut him and plug someone else in...
You don't think DEs get moved around? He is what he is, a liability in the passing game and an above average run blocker with declining skills. He was at the top of the dung pile in free agent Tackles and was the best the Steelers could do. I was just trying to point out that your earlier statement about this line and the line they won the SB with were virtually the same was way off.
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Homotron said:
I'm just saying that Pittsburgh didn't take a chance on him because of his ability to pass protect. Marginal aka middle of the road will do just fine at RT because the last i checked Ben is pretty damn mobile and at least he can see whomever coming from the right side and do something about it. As far as everything else is concerned I don't need to hope. We have plenty of speed at those respective positions.The problem is that who do you have to replace Adams? Hint, hint: There aren't all any. They all suck.
The problem is that who do you have to replace Adams? Hint, hint: There aren't all any. They all suck.
Trai Essex, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills. Someone can certainly step over there. Tony Hills played pretty well in the first preseason game. Pittsburgh always has someone to step in and that's the difference between Pittsburgh and a lot of teams.
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Homotron said:
Pittsburgh didn't take a flyer on him because of his ability to pass protect. Look at his run play stats, completely different animal and precisely why Pittsburgh took the Adams leap. He'll adjust to the RT position and be what he needs to be when we run the ball. He doesn't have to go against the top DE/LB pass rush at RT. All we need is for him to be marginal in pass protection and above average on the run. He fits the bill on the run.As I'm sure you know the LT position is a different position. He'll do fine at RT and if he doesn't they'll cut him and plug someone else in...
You don't think DEs get moved around? He is what he is, a liability in the passing game and an above average run blocker with declining skills. He was at the top of the dung pile in free agent Tackles and was the best the Steelers could do. I was just trying to point out that your earlier statement about this line and the line they won the SB with were virtually the same was way off.
You don't think DEs get moved around? He is what he is, a liability in the passing game and an above average run blocker with declining skills. He was at the top of the dung pile in free agent Tackles and was the best the Steelers could do. I was just trying to point out that your earlier statement about this line and the line they won the SB with were virtually the same was way off.
Way off? The only difference is no Willie Colon and the addition of a very promising rookie. The line will certainly be more gelled than last year and Sean Kugler appears to be one hell of a offensive line coach. He made something out of nothing in Buffalo and projects the Steelers smash mouth mentality. I'm glad people are doubting the Steelers. I can't say that enough at this point.
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The problem is that who do you have to replace Adams? Hint, hint: There aren't all any. They all suck.
Trai Essex, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills. Someone can certainly step over there. Tony Hills played pretty well in the first preseason game. Pittsburgh always has someone to step in and that's the difference between Pittsburgh and a lot of teams.
Homotron said:
Trai Essex, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills. Someone can certainly step over there. Tony Hills played pretty well in the first preseason game. Pittsburgh always has someone to step in and that's the difference between Pittsburgh and a lot of teams.What the difference is between Pittsburgh and a lot of teams is quite simply this: Dick LeBeau.
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You keep talking about Adams "settling in" and "adjusting", none of that helps the fact that he is a horrible pass protector and a penalty machine.
2009
Willie Colon -- 9 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 4 hits allowed, 5 QB pressures allowed
Max Starks -- 7 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 8 hits allowed, 15 QB pressures allowed
Are you ready for this?
Flozell Adams -- 13 penalties, 8 sacks allowed, 7 hits allowed, 34 QB pressures allowed
Yes, this "gentleman" only sees it one way: "Delhomme is over the hill and will be terrible" ...But....Adams will "settle in and adjust".
Yes, this "gentleman" only sees it one way: "Delhomme is over the hill and will be terrible" ...But....Adams will "settle in and adjust".
A QB and a offensive tackle are like trying to compare Kate Beckinsale to Barbara Walters based on level of attraction. One commands the offense the other is merely a part of one. Jake Delhomme is f.ucking terrible and if Adams is he'll get cut and we'll move someone else over. You're problem will be season long. Ours will is easily eliminated. Adams did not get a front loaded contract. We cut him it's of minimal consequence.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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