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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

    1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

    2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

    3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

    4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

    5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

    Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

    Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

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    @the-gipper said:

    Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

    1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

    Jerry Maguire

    2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

    Deadliest Catch

    3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

    not in favor, I think you should win something before your immortalized

    4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

    The young wild side of me says hell yea. The son, brother, father side of me says hell no

    5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

    Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

    Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

    What Gipper said

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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    • The GipperT The Gipper

      Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

      1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

      2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

      3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

      4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

      5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

      Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

      Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

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      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

      1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

      Slapshot

      2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

      The news

      3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

      No real problem here, though I don't credit him all that much

      4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

      I say make it mandatory....hell...toss the bottoms as well

      5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

      Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

      Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

      The Brits brought order to the world. Just look to non Brit Africa for the alternative

      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

        1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

        Major league

        2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

        Fear Factor..(no longer running)

        3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

        Why not? But to do so before we win a superbowl would be tasteless..

        4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

        Absolutely!

        5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

        If it wasnt alfred the great it would have been someone else perhaps even the irish/scottish celts that would have eventually rose up and won their freedom and their lands back from the norsemen just like the irish united and expelled the vikings after 700 years of domination only to have the normans and then the saxons invade..never a break for the emerald isle..there is no doubt that minus alfred things would be considerably different though regardless of the outcome of who won or didnt overcome the danes...

        We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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        • WRREBELW WRREBEL

          Cal, great call in sandlot. That was a classic... "you play ball like a girl"

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          @wrrebel said:

          Cal, great call in sandlot. That was a classic... "you play ball like a girl"

          I honestly didn't think of The Sandlot. GREAT movie. I also liked League of Their Own (where they really did play like girls) but didn't think of it as a comedy. Hmm.

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            Gipper:

            Basketball: SPACE JAM!

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @theclevelandsound said:

            Gipper:

            Basketball: SPACE JAM!

            I don't ever recall laughing during that movie.

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              I watched "Work of Art" a few times too but it was interesting in more of a "train wreck" sort of way.

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              @kshutchins said:

              I watched "Work of Art" a few times too but it was interesting in more of a "train wreck" sort of way.

              Perhaps, but you probably didn't look at it with the same prurient eyes that I did, all things considered.

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                @wrrebel said:

                Cal, great call in sandlot. That was a classic... "you play ball like a girl"

                I honestly didn't think of The Sandlot. GREAT movie. I also liked League of Their Own (where they really did play like girls) but didn't think of it as a comedy. Hmm.

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                NewEraDawgN NewEraDawg wrote on last edited by
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                @kshutchins said:

                I honestly didn't think of The Sandlot. GREAT movie. I also liked League of Their Own (where they really did play like girls) but didn't think of it as a comedy. Hmm.

                Tom Hanks is funny no matter the situation

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                  WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                  Yeah saving private ryan was a real knee slapper

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                    4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

                    I don't think it is a consTITutional issue. Those BOOBS in Washington would screw it up anyway. Each individual state should keep aBREAST of the situation with their own privacy laws. We don't even have topless beaches here in NIPPLES Naples.

                    In the words of Kurt Russell as Stuntman Mike in "Deathproof": "Now THAT was fun(ny) !

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                    • WRREBELW WRREBEL

                      Yeah saving private ryan was a real knee slapper

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                      NewEraDawgN NewEraDawg wrote on last edited by
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                      @wrrebel said:

                      Yeah saving private ryan was a real knee slapper

                      I can find humor in most things . It is a talent I find that helps me from going nuts .

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                        4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

                        Yeah, but they should loose their right to criticize men's reactions!

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                        Excellent point. Like at certain beaches, you can look, but not stare.

                        Which is apparently maybe more than a tenth of a second?

                        Ms KsHutchins is right - we'd have to avoid traffic jams...

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                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                          Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

                          1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

                          2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

                          3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

                          4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

                          5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

                          Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

                          Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Here is your survey for today: Give your opinions:

                          1. What is your favorite sports themed comedy movie?

                          MIRACLE, RUDY, SLAPSHOT

                          2. What is your favorite "Reality" show? (Live sports not included)

                          I'M A BIT OVER REALITY SHOWS BUT I JUST WATCHED AMERICAN CHOPPER FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

                          3. What are your thoughts on a statue to Al Lerner being erected outside Browns stadium?

                          I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY

                          4. Sunday was National Go Topless Day. Should women have the constitutional right to go bare chested in public the same way men can?

                          SURE WHY NOT. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THE SAME AS WITH NUDIST. WE MIGHT NOT REALLY WANT TO SEE THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO PARTAKE.

                          5. Bizarre alternate reality question:

                          Setup: In the late 800s the Danes and the Norse occupied much of what is today England. In the year 878 then, Alfred, King of Wessex (later Alfred The Great of England) had his "kingdom" reduced through Danish invasions to a few square miles of swamp in Somerset County (SW England) where he was hiding from the Danes who were out after him before he was able to rally his people and later retake nearly all of England in the years to come. Had the Danes captured and killed Alfred the country we know today as England would probably never have come into existance. Instead, it would have become Daneland or Norseland or something.

                          Question: How do you think history would have been changed had the Danes captured/killed Alfred in those swamps and had England never come to pass?

                          I'VE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF A WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR FAN MYSELF.

                          The Danes and the Norse or Vikings as they are also known (this event took place within the 1st 100 years of the Viking age) had a tendency to blend in and eventually adopt much of the culture they had just overwhelmed. I doubt this would have happened so early in the age of Viking expansion. This brings me back to William the Conqueror. With the Norman conquest of 1066 (Normans : Scandinavians who converted to Christianity and controlled Normandy in Northern France) they became the ruling aristocracy for England and set the tone for what the British Empire would become.

                          Like someone said before the British Empire brought order to much of the world.

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                            I'VE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF A WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR FAN MYSELF.

                            The Danes and the Norse or Vikings as they are also known (this event took place within the 1st 100 years of the Viking age) had a tendency to blend in and eventually adopt much of the culture they had just overwhelmed. I doubt this would have happened so early in the age of Viking expansion. This brings me back to William the Conqueror. With the Norman conquest of 1066 (Normans : Scandinavians who converted to Christianity and controlled Normandy in Northern France) they became the ruling aristocracy for England and set the tone for what the British Empire would become.

                            Like someone said before the British Empire brought order to much of the world.

                            Perhaps you are aware that a large contingent of the conquering Norman army were made up of people from Brittany...which in fact got its name from the Britons that were displaced by the Saxons who had taken over the isle several hundred years earlier and emigrated to what is today northern France. In essence, some think that the Norman conquest was in part merely a retaking of the "homeland" by it original inhabitants.

                            In fact, there is some theory in history that William the Conqueror was perhaps a descendant of the legendary King Arthur, during whose realm the invading Saxons were successfully fought off, but after his death his descendants were forced to abandon Briton for Brittany.

                            So, Arthur, the once and future King, indeed may have had his future come to fruition.....and have that fruit blossom to this very day, as Queen Elizabeth is in fact a direct descendant of William the Conqueror.

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                              I'VE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF A WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR FAN MYSELF.

                              The Danes and the Norse or Vikings as they are also known (this event took place within the 1st 100 years of the Viking age) had a tendency to blend in and eventually adopt much of the culture they had just overwhelmed. I doubt this would have happened so early in the age of Viking expansion. This brings me back to William the Conqueror. With the Norman conquest of 1066 (Normans : Scandinavians who converted to Christianity and controlled Normandy in Northern France) they became the ruling aristocracy for England and set the tone for what the British Empire would become.

                              Like someone said before the British Empire brought order to much of the world.

                              Perhaps you are aware that a large contingent of the conquering Norman army were made up of people from Brittany...which in fact got its name from the Britons that were displaced by the Saxons who had taken over the isle several hundred years earlier and emigrated to what is today northern France. In essence, some think that the Norman conquest was in part merely a retaking of the "homeland" by it original inhabitants.

                              In fact, there is some theory in history that William the Conqueror was perhaps a descendant of the legendary King Arthur, during whose realm the invading Saxons were successfully fought off, but after his death his descendants were forced to abandon Briton for Brittany.

                              So, Arthur, the once and future King, indeed may have had his future come to fruition.....and have that fruit blossom to this very day, as Queen Elizabeth is in fact a direct descendant of William the Conqueror.

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                              1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              I'VE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF A WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR FAN MYSELF.

                              The Danes and the Norse or Vikings as they are also known (this event took place within the 1st 100 years of the Viking age) had a tendency to blend in and eventually adopt much of the culture they had just overwhelmed. I doubt this would have happened so early in the age of Viking expansion. This brings me back to William the Conqueror. With the Norman conquest of 1066 (Normans : Scandinavians who converted to Christianity and controlled Normandy in Northern France) they became the ruling aristocracy for England and set the tone for what the British Empire would become.

                              Like someone said before the British Empire brought order to much of the world.

                              Perhaps you are aware that a large contingent of the conquering Norman army were made up of people from Brittany...which in fact got its name from the Britons that were displaced by the Saxons who had taken over the isle several hundred years earlier and emigrated to what is today northern France. In essence, some think that the Norman conquest was in part merely a retaking of the "homeland" by it original inhabitants.

                              In fact, there is some theory in history that William the Conqueror was perhaps a descendant of the legendary King Arthur, during whose realm the invading Saxons were successfully fought off, but after his death his descendants were forced to abandon Briton for Brittany.

                              So, Arthur, the once and future King, indeed may have had his future come to fruition.....and have that fruit blossom to this very day, as Queen Elizabeth is in fact a direct descendant of William the Conqueror.

                              Yes, I'm aware of that. I didn't spend all that time at YSU for nothing.

                              There are theories that Arthur was Roman too. So maybe the question for this week should be were would the world e without The Roman Empire?

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                I'VE ALWAYS BEEN MORE OF A WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR FAN MYSELF.

                                The Danes and the Norse or Vikings as they are also known (this event took place within the 1st 100 years of the Viking age) had a tendency to blend in and eventually adopt much of the culture they had just overwhelmed. I doubt this would have happened so early in the age of Viking expansion. This brings me back to William the Conqueror. With the Norman conquest of 1066 (Normans : Scandinavians who converted to Christianity and controlled Normandy in Northern France) they became the ruling aristocracy for England and set the tone for what the British Empire would become.

                                Like someone said before the British Empire brought order to much of the world.

                                Perhaps you are aware that a large contingent of the conquering Norman army were made up of people from Brittany...which in fact got its name from the Britons that were displaced by the Saxons who had taken over the isle several hundred years earlier and emigrated to what is today northern France. In essence, some think that the Norman conquest was in part merely a retaking of the "homeland" by it original inhabitants.

                                In fact, there is some theory in history that William the Conqueror was perhaps a descendant of the legendary King Arthur, during whose realm the invading Saxons were successfully fought off, but after his death his descendants were forced to abandon Briton for Brittany.

                                So, Arthur, the once and future King, indeed may have had his future come to fruition.....and have that fruit blossom to this very day, as Queen Elizabeth is in fact a direct descendant of William the Conqueror.

                                Yes, I'm aware of that. I didn't spend all that time at YSU for nothing.

                                There are theories that Arthur was Roman too. So maybe the question for this week should be were would the world e without The Roman Empire?

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                                @1-more-season said:

                                Yes, I'm aware of that. I didn't spend all that time at YSU for nothing.

                                There are theories that Arthur was Roman too. So maybe the question for this week should be were would the world e without The Roman Empire?

                                Well, considering this is August, and it is named after Augustus Caesar..who even more than July Julius Caesar was responsible for the creation of the Roman Empire...I guess we would at minimum have different names for our months.

                                Maybe we would be operating under the Metric Time system that the French Revolutionaries attempted to implement.

                                (10 months in a year...of 36 or 37 days in a month....10 hours in a day, 100 minutes to an hour, 100 seconds to a minute)

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                                  @1-more-season said:

                                  Yes, I'm aware of that. I didn't spend all that time at YSU for nothing.

                                  There are theories that Arthur was Roman too. So maybe the question for this week should be were would the world e without The Roman Empire?

                                  Well, considering this is August, and it is named after Augustus Caesar..who even more than July Julius Caesar was responsible for the creation of the Roman Empire...I guess we would at minimum have different names for our months.

                                  Maybe we would be operating under the Metric Time system that the French Revolutionaries attempted to implement.

                                  (10 months in a year...of 36 or 37 days in a month....10 hours in a day, 100 minutes to an hour, 100 seconds to a minute)

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Well, considering this is August, and it is named after Augustus Caesar..who even more than July Julius Caesar was responsible for the creation of the Roman Empire...I guess we would at minimum have different names for our months.

                                  Maybe we would be operating under the Metric Time system that the French Revolutionaries attempted to implement.

                                  (10 months in a year...of 36 or 37 days in a month....10 hours in a day, 100 minutes to an hour, 100 seconds to a minute)

                                  Lets just give it up for that wolf that raised Romulus and Remus...

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Well, considering this is August, and it is named after Augustus Caesar..who even more than July Julius Caesar was responsible for the creation of the Roman Empire...I guess we would at minimum have different names for our months.

                                    Maybe we would be operating under the Metric Time system that the French Revolutionaries attempted to implement.

                                    (10 months in a year...of 36 or 37 days in a month....10 hours in a day, 100 minutes to an hour, 100 seconds to a minute)

                                    Lets just give it up for that wolf that raised Romulus and Remus...

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                                    @1-more-season said:

                                    Lets just give it up for that wolf that raised Romulus and Remus...

                                    If it weren't for the Romans our days of the week would probably be named after Norse Gods....err, wait a minute....they ARE. At least half of them are. Tuesday for Tyr, Wednesday for Wodan, Thursday for Thor, and Friday for Frigg. Odd how that prevailed. In the Middle Ages certain pious monks wanted to change the Days to like Maryday, Josephday, Peterday etc. It never caught on.

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                                      1. Miracle (I know Cleveland isn't hockey town by any means, but a true story combined with the second best sport after football)

                                      2. Avoid it like the plague, but if I had to pick probably something like Next Food Network Star because I get to watch awesome food getting cooked without the drama that shows like Top Chef bring to the table

                                      3. Only if its of him bent over so we can kick his ass for betraying us and then leaving us his spawn as the usually hapless owner.

                                      4. Like this even needs to be asked. Yes yes yes. State parks in Ohio are protected for going top free, so bring em out.

                                      5. Easy, we wouldn't have the middle finger (Irish rebellious response to being rendered unable to use crossbows against the English) There'd be no Braveheart, our country would probably be much softer, and worst of all there'd be no football as this was invented in England along side association football (soccer for short, even if those d-bags in europe and sh!th0le third world countries would want us to believe), and what is footie in Australia.

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                                        1. Miracle (I know Cleveland isn't hockey town by any means, but a true story combined with the second best sport after football)

                                        2. Avoid it like the plague, but if I had to pick probably something like Next Food Network Star because I get to watch awesome food getting cooked without the drama that shows like Top Chef bring to the table

                                        3. Only if its of him bent over so we can kick his ass for betraying us and then leaving us his spawn as the usually hapless owner.

                                        4. Like this even needs to be asked. Yes yes yes. State parks in Ohio are protected for going top free, so bring em out.

                                        5. Easy, we wouldn't have the middle finger (Irish rebellious response to being rendered unable to use crossbows against the English) There'd be no Braveheart, our country would probably be much softer, and worst of all there'd be no football as this was invented in England along side association football (soccer for short, even if those d-bags in europe and sh!th0le third world countries would want us to believe), and what is footie in Australia.

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                                        @neohionative said:

                                        1. Miracle (I know Cleveland isn't hockey town by any means, but a true story combined with the second best sport after football)

                                        Is that movie a comedy? I didn't think so

                                        .

                                        2. Avoid it like the plague, but if I had to pick probably something like Next Food Network Star because I get to watch awesome food getting cooked without the drama that shows like Top Chef bring to the table

                                        3. Only if its of him bent over so we can kick his ass for betraying us and then leaving us his spawn as the usually hapless owner.

                                        4. Like this even needs to be asked. Yes yes yes. State parks in Ohio are protected for going top free, so bring em out.

                                        5. Easy, we wouldn't have the middle finger (Irish rebellious response to being rendered unable to use crossbows against the English) There'd be no Braveheart, our country would probably be much softer, and worst of all there'd be no football as this was invented in England along side association football (soccer for short, even if those d-bags in europe and sh!th0le third world countries would want us to believe), and what is footie in Australia.

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