Browns Vs Lions .... Your thoughts
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I thought the late hit/personal foul on Suh was complete bs on Suh's part. I love hard hitting football, but that was a blatant attempt to injure someone. He grabbed Jake's face mask, yanked on it one way, and then pulled back on hishelmet and threw him to the ground. I was truly surprised Jake was not injured. I'm sure his neck will be hurting today.
That was a punk ass move and he's going to be fined. I just hope they fine him a lot.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010082852/2...lions#tab:watch
Video: Throw him down, big man! Throw him down!
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I agree suhs play was total bs. I was hoping he would get chopped blocked and tear an acl. Seemed like detroit was just a dirty team.
I am not worried about our d yet either. While we don't have the players to be great, we will scheme and look better in the regular season. I'm sure the pats d wanted to look inept also. It is what it is preseason. Players don't play with intensity, coaches don't sceme and I don't get an errecction
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Formerly Stone said:
Some of you Browns fans are amazing! When your guy does it, it's a great play, or, hey it's a tough sport. When it happens to your guy, it's a cheap shot, a dirty team, and you root for a season ending injury?You your ED problems have nothing to do with this forum!
He grapped Jakes face mask and threw him down. If that were Peyton Manning or Tom Brady Suh would have been suspened for 3 games and fined out the ass. Everyone throws in a cheap shot, but to try to break someones neck is just bullshit.
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Formerly Stone said:
Come on......you honestly don't believe he was trying to break his neck do you? It was just an off balance grab. As far as the throw down, hey, it's a tough sport!Yea, knowing you are 300lbs and pulling on a helmet one way and the body the other way. It was a shitty move on his part, and yes it is a tough sport but you have to be able to protect you QB.
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Formerly Stone said:
You're over-reactingYep im over reacting to Our starting QB getting tossed around like a rag doll, my bad. Like I said if it were Manning or Brady this story would be bigger.
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Formerly Stone said:
Nobody likes to see their QB get tossed around but, again, if a Browns player did the tossing you guys would be celebrating his intensity. And as far as Manning or Brady, you're over-reacting.No he's not. If that happened to Tom Brady Suh would get suspended.
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Detroit fans have to love Suh's intensity. I love it. But he was out to HURT someone in a xxxxing preseason game. It's one thing to lay a big hit on a QB and knock him out...its another to grab a face mask, rip the guy around, then slam him into the ground. Clean injury=unfortunate but acceptable...dirty hit injury is just what it is...dirty. What if Shaun Rogers ripped Ben's head off like that in a preseason game? Then what would you be saying? The same things we are saying.
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Formerly stoner, if a browns player did this I would be sick. Facemask I can understand, that shit happens. He was obviously frustrated at the lack of presure and took out his frustration. The second part where he tried to slam him down was gay.
U are a fukcin idiot... I know ur use to slamming ur boyfriend down. The difference between u and suh, is u couldn't beat urself out of wet paper bag.
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Formerly Stone said:
You're all over-reacting. He let go of the face mask long before he threw Jake to the ground. Jees...........Go look at a Lions forum and see what they're saying. Most agree is was uncalled for. They mainly complain about the impact it will have with penalties against their team.
Yeah he showed great intensity, but there's a line and he crossed it. The facemask was ok, it happens. Then putting his arm around the head, what ever... he was trying to get him down. But to jerk him back the other way by his head and throw him down, cmon man... That's way uncalled for, the play was over. It's especially when some rookie punk does that to a guy who is a vet in the league.
Go fcuk yourself Stone.
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Formerly Stone said:
Dear Douchebag:Cut and pasted from scout.com
I loved it, when is the last we had a player on defense that scared the other QB's. I want it as my Avatar.tongue
Can someone post a video of Suh trying to rip
Delhomme's head off? That was pretty funny.
i have to agree with most people here and i loved he showed some sort of emotion. prior to the penalty there was a browns player all in suh's face, then the very next play he destroyed jake. if suh unleashes that type of attitude every play he will become even more disruptive.
I enjoyed it and I hope the next qb he rips the head off of is wearing a Minnie Vikings uniform.
In one play Suh did everything that the league is trying to protect quarterbacks from. Honestly, it was sort of awesome.
The play gets better every time I watch it. Yes it was a facemask. Yes, it was unnecessary roughness after the QB got rid of the ball but there's no way he saw Delhomme get rid of it. I love the play. It's the preseason guys. I'm not ashamed, I'm proud. Maybe we can be a team that will be feared. If I am a QB, I don't want Suh getting anywhere near me.
Ripping off Delhommes head? C'mon Delhommes head is still in tact and he's fine. No stretchers were bought on the field after the play
Dont like it? Stay out of the big mans way. It could have been way worse. It's football folks and I'm ok with people thinking of Detroit as having an intimidating D-Line.
Dear Asswipe:
I could really give two shits what that site or you have to say. You can keep posting, but I'm done communicating with lesser life forms.
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If he makes a habit out of it, Stafford and himself will have a short lived career.
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I agree that Suh's "hit" on Jake was a punk play. The way he threw him down to end it said it all for me. I hope somebody lays that jerk out! Actually, why not follow Stone's advice & throw every block at Suh's knees.....& no whining when he's out for the season. After all, taking Suh's knee(s) out would "just" be playing the game as it is meant to be played...right?
I don't like "cheap shots" in ANY sport, & if Suh chooses to play that way, he WILL pay a price at some point.
Mike
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I thought the first team offense looked like a real NFL offense. That alone isn't something we could say for the past few years. I really wish our FO would have made more of a push to get a a good to great veteran WR because our corp are really green. Our defense has looked really suspect. I don't even want to hear how Ryan is keeping it vanilla blah blah blah. We are getting shredded. I understand that you don't play your hand in preseason but when A.J. mother-effing Feeley is carving you up like a thanksgiving turkey, you have a problem. They have looked slow and out of place (minus TJ Ward). Oh, and someone better get some stick-um for Jerome Harrison's gloves because he is dropping that ball like it was dipped in crisco. High and tight Jerome! HIGH AND TIGHT!
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U have to be the biggest tool. I haven't seen anyone say that the other teams are going all out. It is freakin pre season.
Let's see the year the lions went 0 and 16 they went 4 and 0 in preseason. The pats lost to the rams, colts to the bills.
Do u not know anything. Let's wait until the regular season and then u can come here an maybe have a inteligent thought.
By the way, how does sperm taste? Does it feel all warm in ur mouth?
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Formerly Stone said:
Some of you Browns fans are amazing! When your guy does it, it's a great play, or, hey it's a tough sport. When it happens to your guy, it's a cheap shot, a dirty team, and you root for a season ending injury?You your ED problems have nothing to do with this forum!
I don't think we are being inconsistent: When Joe Jones piled drived Terry Bradshaw, yes, it was a cheap shot. Whoever said it wasn't? The fact that we enjoyed the hell out of it doesn't make it any less of a cheap shot. Same deal here: it was a cheap shot. It just that we did not enjoy the hell out of it.
So? What's your complaint?
As far as rooting for a seaon ending injury for an opposing player, why not? If it means that team is less likely to beat us, so be it. Its nothing personal against these guys, it is just a method by which an opposing team can be weakened. Some people are going to get hurt, so let it be the other guy. God knows the Browns have suffered their share of debilitating....even career ending injuries over the years from Jamir Miller to Courtney Brown to LeCharles Bentley to Joe Jurevicius to etc. etc. etc.
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Formerly Stone said:
Nobody likes to see their QB get tossed around but, again, if a Browns player did the tossing you guys would be celebrating his intensity. And as far as Manning or Brady, you're over-reacting.Right, it should not be Manning or Brady...perhaps it can be BR. If he does get his suspension reduced his first game back will be against the Browns. Maybe then the Browns can manhandle him like King Kong manhandle Fay Wray....and put him out for the year. Again, nothing personal, it just that I would like to see the Steelers take their chances with Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon. Why not?
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Formerly Stone said:
Dear Douchebag:Cut and pasted from scout.com
I loved it, when is the last we had a player on defense that scared the other QB's. I want it as my Avatar.tongue
Can someone post a video of Suh trying to rip
Delhomme's head off? That was pretty funny.
i have to agree with most people here and i loved he showed some sort of emotion. prior to the penalty there was a browns player all in suh's face, then the very next play he destroyed jake. if suh unleashes that type of attitude every play he will become even more disruptive.
I enjoyed it and I hope the next qb he rips the head off of is wearing a Minnie Vikings uniform.
In one play Suh did everything that the league is trying to protect quarterbacks from. Honestly, it was sort of awesome.
The play gets better every time I watch it. Yes it was a facemask. Yes, it was unnecessary roughness after the QB got rid of the ball but there's no way he saw Delhomme get rid of it. I love the play. It's the preseason guys. I'm not ashamed, I'm proud. Maybe we can be a team that will be feared. If I am a QB, I don't want Suh getting anywhere near me.
Ripping off Delhommes head? C'mon Delhommes head is still in tact and he's fine. No stretchers were bought on the field after the play
Dont like it? Stay out of the big mans way. It could have been way worse. It's football folks and I'm ok with people thinking of Detroit as having an intimidating D-Line.
Like I said, so be it. The next time someone goes Joe Turkey Jones on Big Ben Gay, don't complain about it.
Or, do. But who's gonna care?
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Formerly Stone said:
Nobody likes to see their QB get tossed around but, again, if a Browns player did the tossing you guys would be celebrating his intensity. And as far as Manning or Brady, you're over-reacting.Right, it should not be Manning or Brady...perhaps it can be BR. If he does get his suspension reduced his first game back will be against the Browns. Maybe then the Browns can manhandle him like King Kong manhandle Fay Wray....and put him out for the year. Again, nothing personal, it just that I would like to see the Steelers take their chances with Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon. Why not?
Right, it should not be Manning or Brady...perhaps it can be BR. If he does get his suspension reduced his first game back will be against the Browns. Maybe then the Browns can manhandle him like King Kong manhandle Fay Wray....and put him out for the year. Again, nothing personal, it just that I would like to see the Steelers take their chances with Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon. Why not?
Tsk Tsk Tsk... wishing a player be Put out for the year.
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Cleveland Browns quarterback Seneca Wallace thinks Ndamukong Suh's foul against Jake Delhomme warrants suspension
Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns quarterback Seneca Wallace thinks Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh twisting quarterback Jake Delhomme's head and then whipping him to the ground headfirst Saturday night in Detroit was flagrant enough to warrant a suspension by the NFL office.
Browns coach Eric Mangini said the Browns will ask the NFL to look into the incident, but that he imagines they'd do so even without an inquiry.
"He already face masked him, then he grabs him by the neck, twists it and throws him down,'' said Wallace. "To me, that's something you can get suspended for, I think.''
Wallace said the move was "a little over the top as far as a personal foul goes. I understand the face mask part. But he horse-collared him and threw him down. We laughed about it, but that stuff can get people really hurt.''
With about nine minutes left in the second quarter of Detroit's 35-27 victory, Suh grabbed Delhomme by the face mask, yanked on it, then grabbed his head and twisted it before flinging him to the ground. Suh received a 15-yard face mask penalty for the infraction.
Mangini said he anticipates the NFL will review it.
"We will [send in the tape] but I have to imagine that whether we did or not, I'm sure they'll look at it closely,'' he said.
Mangini went on to say that he liked Suh, the No. 2 overall pick, when he interviewed him and worked him out during the predraft process.
"When I met the kid, he was a good kid,'' said Mangini. "I don't think he's a malicious guy from what I know about him. Just a poor decision.''
Should he have been thrown out of the game?
"He put the quarterback at risk, but I'm not the official,'' Mangini said. "You don't want to see that at any point, but my experience with him in the draft process is that he's a good kid.''
Delhomme said Sunday that the officials handled it during the game and that it was up to the league. "I'm just glad we got the first down,'' he said with a smile. Delhomme went on to throw a TD pass two plays later.
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